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[Telemachus78]

Hey quick question what is the name of Ashley's home planet?
I am working on a FF and can't remember exactly what its name is. I know it is like Artmeseau but I can't remember.

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Modifié par Telemachus78, 31 mars 2011 - 12:29 .

[ADLegend21]

Wait, she's not from earth?! O.o could have sworn she was from earth for some reason...

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

MillaShepard wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

SilverRose208 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

From the "What's bioware's excuse for not including the VS in Arrival" Thread.

ADLegend21 wrote...

Which gives me my 6th idea on how they could have been included. Hackett sent the VS to rendevous with the Dr for an update and that's when Kenson and Williams/Alenko were arrested so you have to break the BOTH out of prison. Kenson turns on you both and you two have to fight through the project. Shepard or the VS warns the System about the project and give them a chance to evacuate before activating the project and destroying The relay. After the debrief, in which the VS advocates for the Commanders actions to Hackett, you have a reunion scene with the VS and continuation of the romance should there be one. As much money as bioware made off ME2 and the DLC and Comics they could afford to bring in both VA's and throw us VS fans a bone. I guarantee that would have made Arrival a much better DLC and worth the price of LoTSB instead of 560 points.

I like a lot of the points here, but I absolutely have always loathed the idea of Shep having to save Ash from some big bad wolf. She's a big girl, and she's tough - she can handle things on her own without Shepard having to save the day. I think your outline for how it could have worked is pretty sound, that aside - maybe if Hackett had asked Ash to contact Kenson for an update, the doctor got grabbed, and then Shepard rendezvoused with Ash to do the jailbreak.

How about having Ashley leading a team trying to perform the same task as Shepard... only she was ordered by Anderson, while Shepard was told by Hackett? That why they could meet and wouldn't be expecting to see each other.... or have Ashley do something to where she saves Shepard for once?? I'm not a fan of the damosel in distress for Ashley either... she's more of the "knight" as someone else said previously, imo.

I like all of these ideas a lot.. Any of them could've worked. If the VS was gonna be in it at all, (as I was playing it) I thought for sure it would be to save Shep once he gets knocked out by object Rho. In this instance, let's say It's been 24 hours and Hackett's had no word from Shepard so he contacts Ash/Kai and sends them in with a team to find/extract Shep.. This would play into the whole Ash being the Knight (which I agree with) and it would've made sense, for the most part and even more so with the proper polishing. Sorry if this idea has already been brought up.

Oh, I like y- ... the way you think, Milla!!! 

That would have made perfect sense to me... and this way we would avoid the whole rescuing Ashley bit... and it would kind of be like a payback for Shepard pulling Ash away from the beacon on Eden Prime.
I would love to have Shepard be in a situation like that near the beginning of ME3 and have Ash be the one to show up to get him out of a mess... and realize that she'd need to work with him to stop the threat, just like old times. Throughout the length of ME3, they could reconnect and remember why they loved each other? idk... just think out loud. lol

But going from all these comments about how Ash could've been put into Arrival and how to do so that would make sense... it shows that bioware could have put the VS in, if they really wanted to. However, who knows, maybe they really are saving Ash/Kai for ME3. I hope so! 

Modifié par xxSgt_Reed_24xx, 31 mars 2011 - 12:43 .

[Flamewielder]

Amateratsu

[DWH1982]

Is Amateratsu really her home planet?

I thought she just lived there briefly to accomodate her father's military service.

[Telemachus78]

Thanks Flamewielder

[MillaShepard]

[quote]xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

[quote]MillaShepard wrote...

I like all of these ideas a lot.. Any of them could've worked. If the VS was gonna be in it at all, (as I was playing it) I thought for sure it would be to save Shep once he gets knocked out by object Rho. In this instance, let's say It's been 24 hours and Hackett's had no word from Shepard so he contacts Ash/Kai and sends them in with a team to find/extract Shep.. This would play into the whole Ash being the Knight (which I agree with) and it would've made sense, for the most part and even more so with the proper polishing. Sorry if this idea has already been brought up.
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Oh, I like y- ... the way you think, Milla!!! 

That would have made perfect sense to me... and this way we would avoid the whole rescuing Ashley bit... and it would kind of be like a payback for Shepard pulling Ash away from the beacon on Eden Prime.
I would love to have Shepard be in a situation like that near the beginning of ME3 and have Ash be the one to show up to get him out of a mess... and realize that she'd need to work with him to stop the threat, just like old times. Throughout the length of ME3, they could reconnect and remember why they loved each other? idk... just think out loud. lol

But going from all these comments about how Ash could've been put into Arrival and how to do so that would make sense... it shows that bioware could have put the VS in, if they really wanted to. However, who knows, maybe they really are saving Ash/Kai for ME3. I hope so! [/quote]

Well I like y-... the way you think too Sarge lol!   

It would be interesting to see how it would play out if Ash is in the squad in ME3..  Especially for those who romanced her.  There's so much her and Shep need to discuss (yay! maybe they'll bring back the lengthy conversations) and still I imagine there would be tension there.   I assume that in this case we'd be forced to see their romance come to it's climax toward the end of the game...  So... would having Ash as a squaddie (in this case) make things a little.. awkward?  Either way, I really want Ash back in the squad in ME3!!

As far as them saving Ash/Kai for ME3?  I'm inclined to believe so..  :happy: 
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Modifié par MillaShepard, 31 mars 2011 - 01:32 .

[Mandelore]

As much as I love Ash, I think it could end up being a good thing that she was NOT in the Arrival DLC, after playing the Witch Hunt DLC for Dragon Age. In Witch Hunt, Bioware took one of my favorite characters and ended her story completely in a DLC that was not high quality. I would not have liked that same thing happening to Ashley. Here's to rekindling the romance in ME3!

Modifié par Mandelore, 31 mars 2011 - 01:14 .

[grifter024]

I'm beginning to love the idea that Ashley wasnt in Arrival.

I havent played it but from the tidbits it seems like it was a very very good idea that ashley wasnt in the DLC.

I dont want to spoil anything but from what I've heard about the civilians and batarians in the DLC seem to be a little "Off," If you know what I mean and that could have been the end of Ashley!

What do you mean Milla that there would be tension if she was a squad member in 3? Because of Jacob/Miranda and the cerb ties? I think the only person she would really have problems with would be Legion if you kept him due to her whole "Eden Prime," Ordeal.

[MillaShepard]

grifter024 wrote...

I'm beginning to love the idea that Ashley wasnt in Arrival.

I havent played it but from the tidbits it seems like it was a very very good idea that ashley wasnt in the DLC.

I dont want to spoil anything but from what I've heard about the civilians and batarians in the DLC seem to be a little "Off," If you know what I mean and that could have been the end of Ashley!

What do you mean Milla that there would be tension if she was a squad member in 3? Because of Jacob/Miranda and the cerb ties? I think the only person she would really have problems with would be Legion if you kept him due to her whole "Eden Prime," Ordeal.

I just meant that there would be an awkwardness between her and Shep under the specific scenario I explained if they didn't talk about everything that's happened between ME2 and ME3.  Surely they'll have to discuss things at some point, I'm just hoping there isn't that awkwardness throughout most of ME3..  It'd be the best to have Ash back in the squad AND have her and Shep have their differences settled early on. 

[Lee337]

Since my on my canon play I cheated, I'm afraid she'll do to me what she did to Wrex!

[Shadow_82]

Lee337 wrote...

Since my on my canon play I cheated, I'm afraid she'll do to me what she did to Wrex!

:oI feel sorry for your Shepard.I really do lol.

[Lee337]

I played ME1 and Me2 back to back wiythout stopping Didn't have much time to stop and think. Which is why I also have Hindsight Shepard (his actual name!) who does things like saving wrex and staying faithful. My first playthrough I was like "To hell with you then Ash!" then after I finished and though about it I figured she was just in a wierd place. Stilll not sure what I'll do given the chance in ME2, since Miranda was willing to do anything to stop the reapers, Ash still has boundries. Will Ash follow me no matter what?

[grifter024]

Lee337 wrote...

I played ME1 and Me2 back to back wiythout stopping Didn't have much time to stop and think. Which is why I also have Hindsight Shepard (his actual name!) who does things like saving wrex and staying faithful. My first playthrough I was like "To hell with you then Ash!" then after I finished and though about it I figured she was just in a wierd place. Stilll not sure what I'll do given the chance in ME2, since Miranda was willing to do anything to stop the reapers, Ash still has boundries. Will Ash follow me no matter what?

Last I remeber Miranda answers to one person she even says so in the game that she only answers to the Illusive Man...if he says your a failed experiment I personally think she would switch sides even if you helped Oriana.

Ashley seems more like the person that if you have a relation with her be it platonic or romantic that she would fight to the death for you.

PS: I NEVER knew that Ashley shot Wrex in the back for the longest time...when she did it she freaked me out...a cold blodded hotty=]

[grifter024]

You might have a point. A trial is the easiest thing to make Shep spill his guts on all the decisions he has ever done in the past 3-5years.
Why he left the rachni queen alive, why he set off a nuke, why he has a geth on his ship, why he has a cerb ship.

I just cant see how the VS will help Shep...probably testify on what happened on Horizon perhaps and what happened at Virmire.

Arrival must just be DLC to tell you WHY ME3 starts at a trial instead of starting the game and hearing..

"Commander Sheppard you stand trial on the grounds of everything badass you did!" haha.

[Lee337]

The trial would be a good way to do a quick catch up on events, and Ash would surely be there to support. Depends on the alliance I guess, if they help ash will, or even if we can freelance, but if I have to go cerberus.... hmmmm. I don't know.

[Antivenger]

There's also a chance that she won't (or can't) have anything to do with Shepard. I'm thinkin of two ways Bioware can screw us over in that respect.

1) Collector base destroyed : Cerberus gets angry and kidnaps Ash. You go to save her and ~bum bum bum~ She's been dead all along...

2) Collector base saved : Ashley stays angry and clocks you in the face.

[MillaShepard]

Antivenger wrote...

There's also a chance that she won't (or can't) have anything to do with Shepard. I'm thinkin of two ways Bioware can screw us over in that respect.

1) Collector base destroyed : Cerberus gets angry and kidnaps Ash. You go to save her and ~bum bum bum~ She's been dead all along...

2) Collector base saved : Ashley stays angry and clocks you in the face.

This is possible but I find it unlikely..   Ash is far more reasonable than your giving her credit for, and I think the writers at Bioware will keep her that way..  I have a question for the thread..  Many feel that what we've been told about the VS "not being forgotten" is just lip service.. Why do you think this?  Can you give me some examples to support this claim?  *is curious*  Or is it just a feeling?     

[Lord Zeuss]

MillaShepard wrote...

I have a question for the thread..  Many feel that what we've been told about the VS "not being forgotten" is just lip service.. Why do you think this?  Can you give me some examples to support this claim?  *is curious*  Or is it just a feeling?     

Speaking personally, it's hard to take those words at face value considering the number of chances Bioware have had to *show* that they aren't forgotten, rather than simply *say* it. They can't be bothered to include the two extra lines of dialogue needed for Kasumi to so much as *mention* Ashley or Kaidan, when she mentions *everyone* else. They couldn't take ten minutes to write a throwaway SB dossier for Ashley or Kaidan, when everyone and their dog was given one (plus the equally throwaway video logs of such insignificant characters as Miss Al-Jilani, whom that DLC accorded more importance than the Virmire Survivor). 

[MillaShepard]

@Zuess

Do you think that maybe Bioware is keeping any hard evidence that the VS will return from us for a reason though? I mean... I think what they're trying to do is cause build up amongst the fans so that when Ash and Kaiden do return in ME3, it'll be epic and unexpected.. Bioware knows we want our VS back.. badly, and I think they're aware of the major plot hole that would occur if they don't return. It would've been nice for Kasumi to say something about the VS, but what could she possibly say? She doesn't even meet them unless you take her to horizon. I also believe that we'll see dossiers for both Ash and Kaiden in ME3 and that we haven't yet because it would provide further evidence to believe they'll return.. And also perhaps because the information found in them could become important to the ME3 story in some way. It would've been nice to see some (or even 1) video logs of them, I completely agree.. But perhaps we're not supposed to know what they're up to, and who knows, maybe we'll see one before the release of ME3. These are just my opinions at the moment.. I'm trying to stay optimistic and see this argument from more than one POV, so I do understand where you're coming from. I just thought I'd offer a different perspective. One that to me.. makes sense.

[SilverRose208]

The lack of a dossier never bothered me. Can you imagine how Ash would've reacted to finding out she had one and Shepard read it? Yikes.

Also not bothered by the lack of mention by Kasumi. The relationship is up-in-the-air - they're not together anymore, although overtures were made towards them being able to patch things up. I like to think the relationship (or lack thereof) is a sore subject for Shepard, and I imagine people in the game universe tip-toeing around it. If you had a friend or co-worker who was on the outs with their longtime boyfriend/girlfriend, I think most people wouldn't want to hop up and down and ask how they are at every opportunity; more likely, you'd ask a gentle question or two (see responses to Kelly/Joker in ME2) and then just let it drop until you hear things are okay again.

I never wanted to have a falling out with Ash, nor did my Sheps, but it happened ... so, you have to deal with it and hope that ME3 will bring a rightful conclusion to the story arc. I don't think the line from the devs is just lipservice - I think that given the current Ash/Shep dynamic, something more detailed and visible didn't really make sense.

[Shadow_82]

Ash needs your votes:social.bioware.com/2903769/polls/17775/

[Telemachus78]

I just finished a new Ash FF and it is somewhat of a sad one but a good one. I think at least.

http://www.fanfictio...aughters_Burden