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Sylvianus

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Why didn't try you contact me ?Why did you let me know you were alive . I tought you were dead... I almost... How could you put me throught that ?


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Why didn't try you contact me ?Why did you let me know you were alive . I tought you were dead... How could you put me throught that ?


So it's means nothing ? So why put theses words.... From a writing standpoint, it is unnecessary to break a sentence in full of emotion  in a love scene if it means nothing...

 " Ashley might well have continued her sentence without the "I almost...."

So it's a subtle message that we tried to get across, not necessarily the suicide, I agree.

Or then the author has mismanaged .... but it is too easy to think that.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 15 avril 2011 - 02:11 .


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The "I almost" could mean anything.

For example: "I almost became involved with another guy."

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Ashley could have said almost anything. My personal view is that it would have been uncharacteristic of her to comtemplate suicide. It's not like they had a long-term relationship that spanned more than one really intimate moment.

For all I know she almost slept with Joker on the rebound.

Ok. That was a depressing thought.

Edited for some Ash in honor of Badpie
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I think it's fair to say that Ash had a hard time mourning Shep though she probably didn't show those emotions in her daily life around other people... In the moment at horizon when she says "I almost" My own interpretation of that is this... "I almost didn't make it".... Not in the sense that she almost didn't make it and was contemplating suicide... More along the lines of, I almost didn't make it through the heartache I felt when you died because I was in love with you... I don't think it was a throwaway line and my interpretation is what makes sense for me anyway..

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Legend-I can actually see Ash loving Ice Cream.

I also cant see her shooting herself and dying but I dont think its because she has some big secret mission that she has to accomplish. Most people didnt expect the Reapers were still out there, the Alliance didnt believe shep and though it was over.

They sent Ash to investigate CERB involvment on Horizon NOT some new threat. I think the only reason she didnt off herself was due to her religion.

I think what she meant when she said that was to close herself off from everybody to close herself emotionally. Not loving anyone ever again goes against alot of fanfic Ashleys but I personally think thats what she meant.

Then again the ash I know doesnt really go out and has one night stands like some fanfics.

Also during that ash reunion they should have added a renegade option.....that guy got close to the breaking point of respect to Ash that my shep wouldnt have stood for.....

#9156
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DWH1982 wrote...

The "I almost" could mean anything.

For example: "I almost became involved with another guy."


I kind of figure she might have gotten involved with another guy at some point, maybe after she put Shepard behind her.  She said she hadn't let herself think of those memories in a year.  Maybe a year ago she decided she needed to get on with her life and stop loving a ghost.  I don't think it's that.

I really think it's partially a stammer, partially a moment that she was about to be really honest about she felt but then thought better of it and swallowed it.  I could have been "I almost fell apart completely" but she realized she needed to keep her cool what with all the weirdness and the people staring as well.

There were so many emotions running through her - conveyed perfectly by Kimberly Brooks who adds so much to the script that isn't even there.

@haynoats But they did have a longstanding relationship.  A deep friendship that was more.  They cared about each other and even said as much.  Yes, the physical intimacy was that one night (or several after even - we don't know what happened in that time between ME1 and 2).  Deep and meaningful does not necessarily have to be "long term."

And thanks for posting my pic!

Modifié par Badpie, 15 avril 2011 - 02:26 .


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The "I almost" could mean anything.

She is serious ... vulnerable and confused face to Shepard she believes died and she she found actually  alive. I do not believe at all that it could be mean anything ... ( like i almost makes love with joker. )

Modifié par Sylvianus, 15 avril 2011 - 02:26 .


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How about...I almost gave up hope?

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haynoats wrote...

How about...I almost gave up hope?


I like this.

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I think it's fair to say that Ash had a hard time mourning Shep though she probably didn't show those emotions in her daily life around other people... In the moment at horizon when she says "I almost" My own interpretation of that is this... "I almost didn't make it".... Not in the sense that she almost didn't make it and was contemplating suicide... More along the lines of, I almost didn't make it through the heartache I felt when you died because I was in love with you... I don't think it was a throwaway line and my interpretation is what makes sense for me anyway..

I agree with that.

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Poor Joker, first ADLegend and then haynoats made references to Ash stopping herself from being with Joker. Crippled guys always finish last, they make "nice guys" seem like winners.

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GeneralSlotts193 wrote...

haynoats wrote...

How about...I almost gave up hope?


I like this.



In a nutshell I would say this.  :crying:

Poor Ash.

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Perhaps we will find out what she "almost" did in ME3.

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DWH1982 wrote...

Perhaps we will find out what she "almost" did in ME3.

Ashley: about on Horizon...when I said I almost...i meant....I almost dyed my hair blonde."

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Great insights Milla and Badpie, although I like your theories here's another one to consider. I wonder if Ash was about to say, " I almost changed who I am" by quiting the Alliance and possibly joining Cerberus or something. I think Ash would want Shepard's death to mean something, she wouldn't know what to do and be feeling helpless, she turns to Anderson he's doesn't have the answers, Garrus is off shooting up Omega, Liara went crazy, Ash knows she has to do something but what that's the thing. And Cerberus seems to be the only people doing anything about it, but you might ask, why would she then react so negatively to finding Shep with Cerberus? If this was something she seriously thought about and then decided, no she couldn't do it, only to find out that Shep of all people is in fact with Cerberus.

Modifié par GeneralSlotts193, 15 avril 2011 - 02:55 .


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GeneralSlotts193 wrote...

Great insights Milla and Badpie, although I like your theories here's another one to consider. I wonder if Ash was about to say, " I almost changed who I am" by quiting the Alliance and possibly joining Cerberus or something. I think Ash would want Shepard's death to mean something, she wouldn't know what to do and be feeling helpless, she turns to Anderson he's doesn't have the answers, Garrus is off shooting up Omega, Liara went crazy, Ash knows she has to do something but what that's the thing. And Cerberus seems to be the only people doing anything about it, but you might ask, why would she then react so negatively to finding Shep with Cerberus? If this was something she seriously thought about and then decided, no she couldn't do it, only find out that Shep of all people is in fact with Cerberus.


I approve of this theory as well. ^_^

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@ Badpie - I don't disagree with what your are saying. I think she grieved and even after 1 year, though she did not think about it per se, she may have still had hope that he would somehow crawl out from the wreckage just like had done in ME1.

Hey, I think Joker is a classic and Seth Green gave life to that character.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

DWH1982 wrote...

Perhaps we will find out what she "almost" did in ME3.

Ashley: about on Horizon...when I said I almost...i meant....I almost dyed my hair blonde."


Shep: I don't think that's what you where about to say.
Ash stares at Shepard
Shep: Blonde eh, good thing you didn't.

#9169
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"I almost got 23 cats"

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Honestly, I believe Horizon, was just bad writing by Bioware. And I agree that Kimberly Brooks did much with the little she was given in the script. As for the pause.... I cannot believe Ash would even entertain thoughts of suicide.
It's totally out of character. Her faith, her family, her desire to clear her family name in the Alliance. The fanfiction linked in this thread is better in my opinion then what we got at Horizon.... Hoping for better in ME3.

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Something Ash said just made me think. She thought she had lost the one person in her life that made her feel "worth it." That's pretty powerful stuff.

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Something Ash said just made me think. She thought she had lost the one person in her life that made her feel "worth it." That's pretty powerful stuff.

Yeah. It was also in my thoughts when I posted.

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"I almost kissed a Turian"
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#9174
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LOL

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"I almost told the Turian Councelor he was right about everything"

e: Okay I got nothin' lol<_<^_^

Modifié par Shadow_82, 15 avril 2011 - 03:21 .