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[Balsam Beige]

haynoats wrote...

That could make the VS/LI story arc one heck of a love story within the story...so-to-speak. Possibly more immersive and realistic than any of the others.

Agreed. I'd love to see it written that way in ME3.

[Badpie]

I did another photo manip. It has a mature label on it but it's really very PG-13.

I always wanted Ash and Shep to spend some time in that great apartment on Intai'sei that you get in the Pinnacle Station dlc. Lots of warm colors and I like the desert setting. Here you go!

http://badpie1.devia...nrise-205595836

[grifter024]

I've been trying to figure out how the heck she survived Horizon as well.

From a collector militarized standpoint....
you stun everyone to take to the ship
you see the only person in armor in the middle of the field with a weapon drawn as well as being a women if that mattered and you DONT take her?!

This has to be the biggest mistake I've ever seen from a collector swarm, there is also no way that Shep getting there changed the fact that she wasnt taken.

More then likely and personally I like to believe that the Collectors knew who ash was and even if they have to deal with Shep which was a secondary priority in lue of making a human reaper baby the wouldnt want to take the wrath of Shep going straight at them for Ash.

Then again thats just what my mooshy mind made up for Ashley.

[MillaShepard]

Badpie wrote...

I did another photo manip. It has a mature label on it but it's really very PG-13.

I always wanted Ash and Shep to spend some time in that great apartment on Intai'sei that you get in the Pinnacle Station dlc. Lots of warm colors and I like the desert setting. Here you go!

http://badpie1.devia...nrise-205595836

Loved it! <3

[ADLegend21]

I always rationalize that Shepard starts her Assualt before they get to Ash. when Shepar dappears the colelctors need all hands on deck cuz they're not a military outift, they're covert.
the ship leaves and the stasis wears off.

[Badpie]

Thanks Milla.

Yeah I wondered how Ash not only didn't get taken aboard the ship since she froze right next to the other people who did - people like Lilith (poor Lilith), but I also wondered...that sh*t just wears off? I suppose it's not unbelievable that venom wears off after awhile, but I kind of thought she would be derping around with no motor skills for a bit after that you know?

[nickkcin11]

grifter024 wrote...

I've been trying to figure out how the heck she survived Horizon as well.

From a collector militarized standpoint....
you stun everyone to take to the ship
you see the only person in armor in the middle of the field with a weapon drawn as well as being a women if that mattered and you DONT take her?!

This has to be the biggest mistake I've ever seen from a collector swarm, there is also no way that Shep getting there changed the fact that she wasnt taken.

More then likely and personally I like to believe that the Collectors knew who ash was and even if they have to deal with Shep which was a secondary priority in lue of making a human reaper baby the wouldnt want to take the wrath of Shep going straight at them for Ash.

Then again thats just what my mooshy mind made up for Ashley.

The collectors sensed her Badassery and were scared away. Maybe the shielding on her armor saved her? Maybe she was in better shape then the rest and recovered faster from the seeker venom. Who knows. Maybe we will learn in ME3

[Batlass8]

The way I see Ash's amazing recovery from the seeker swarms on Horizon is... she's wearing armor. So maybe one or two stings on her exposed face/neck, but I'm thinking she got a minor dose compared to other people. (We know the stuff wears off because people in the pods freaked out and banged on the glass when they were getting liquified). So by the time the Collectors got all their people-reaping equipment off the ship and started collecting colonists, Ash was probably already on the move (albeit not very quickly, I'm thinking), with her kinetic barriers cranked up as high as they could go (if a biotic barrier would protect you from seeker swarms, I'm thinking kinetic barriers could too). And that's my version of How Ashley Escaped the Collectors. Either that or the writers for Horizon didn't really think the scene all the way through. But that can't be it.

[grifter024]

I cant see the picture due to needing a dart login ;( .

You guys might be right she was wearing armor with kinetic shielding so she might not have gotten lots of the "Venom."

I hope in M3 we get to split up the team a few more times like Virmire and the SM. Would be fun making garrus go off on his own and hearing him get in trouble over the com. Would shake things up then just being togethor all game.

[nickkcin11]

grifter024 wrote...

I cant see the picture due to needing a dart login ;( .

You guys might be right she was wearing armor with kinetic shielding so she might not have gotten lots of the "Venom."

I hope in M3 we get to split up the team a few more times like Virmire and the SM. Would be fun making garrus go off on his own and hearing him get in trouble over the com. Would shake things up then just being togethor all game.

I always felt that was a more practical use of the squad. If they sit around they get fat and lazy.

[Northern Sun]

I always figured she survived Horizon because the Collectors were saving her for last. You know, Harbinger's "This hurts you" to Shepard and all that.

[grifter024]

Actually that could have been a good way to add more drama to the Suicide Mission well for VS LI's.

Ash gets taken in pod but DOESNT get gooed.

Harbinger uses Ash/Kaiden to weaken Sheps resolve.

Have to hold the line esque while you rescue Ash which equals greater chance for a squad mate to die in the ensuing rescue.

Although I wonder how she would react to a member dying again because of an indirect action of hers.

Garrus I think she would take hard.....everyone else is up in the air.

[Sylvianus]

For me, it's just that the scene is very bad. There is no reason that Ashley could not be kidnapped without explanation. And her armor can not protect her against a swarm of drones. She was bareheaded, and moreover she has been touched, seen at the beginning of the kinematics. Why Lilith who has bee touched after her, is kidnapped and not her ?

The only reason that I could see, is that they have kept Ashley for the end. But even that isn't credible for me because she didn't speak of her dangerous situation. She arrives with almost a smile as if it had never been in danger, never touched by the drone and imprisoned in a stasis chaps.

It would have cost anything to say  "thank you skipper, you saved my life. A little more And it was my turn. " But no, Poof, like a miracle.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 20 avril 2011 - 12:41 .

[V-rex]

Ashley survived Horizon because she was incredibly lucky. Or because the Collectors were intending to keep her as bait. Or because she's just too tough to remain paralyzed.
Doesn't really matter, what does is that she is alive.

My Shepard at least, doesn't question miracles. He is grateful for them.
Especially when Ash is involved.

[MillaShepard]

Sylvianus wrote...

For me, it's just that the scene is very bad. There is no reason that Ashley could not be kidnapped without explanation. And her armor can not protect her against a swarm of drones. She was bareheaded, and moreover she has been touched, seen at the beginning of the kinematics. Why Lilith who has bee touched after her, is kidnapped and not her ?

The only reason that I could see, is that they have kept Ashley for the end. But even that isn't credible for me because she didn't speak of her dangerous situation. She arrives with almost a smile as if it had never been in danger, never touched by the drone and imprisoned in a stasis chaps.

It would have cost anything to say  "thank you skipper, you saved my life. A little more And it was my turn. " But no, Poof, like a miracle.

I hadn't thought about the effect her armor would have against the drones until now, but in the SM if any of the squad steps outside the barrier for too long... they're toast.  So I imagine the same rules should have applied to Ashley on Horizon.  Really it just seems like a gaping plot hole, but maybe we'll get some kind of explanation for it in ME3.

[Badpie]

So here's a question for you folks who played Arrival. There is one guard in the entire dlc that has a name. Not only is that name Williams but they make a point of not once but twice making sure you hear the name Williams. You know, just before you shoot the guy.

Several possibilities spring to mind:
1. Totally meaningless, though if that were the case why would they even bother naming one of the sea of security you're fighting?

2. This will be important later in some way relating to Ash, her family, ties to the Alliance and Cerberus, etc.

3. Bioware was giving everyone who wanted Ash dlc the finger by saying "Look! See? Williams is in Arrival!"

I'm kind of curious to see if #2 is the case.

[Complistic]

There were definitely doing the third option as she doesn't have any brothers, does she? Could be a cousin maybe?

[PMC65]

MillaShepard wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

For me, it's just that the scene is very bad. There is no reason that Ashley could not be kidnapped without explanation. And her armor can not protect her against a swarm of drones. She was bareheaded, and moreover she has been touched, seen at the beginning of the kinematics. Why Lilith who has bee touched after her, is kidnapped and not her ?

The only reason that I could see, is that they have kept Ashley for the end. But even that isn't credible for me because she didn't speak of her dangerous situation. She arrives with almost a smile as if it had never been in danger, never touched by the drone and imprisoned in a stasis chaps.

It would have cost anything to say  "thank you skipper, you saved my life. A little more And it was my turn. " But no, Poof, like a miracle.

I hadn't thought about the effect her armor would have against the drones until now, but in the SM if any of the squad steps outside the barrier for too long... they're toast.  So I imagine the same rules should have applied to Ashley on Horizon.  Really it just seems like a gaping plot hole, but maybe we'll get some kind of explanation for it in ME3.

That always struck me as odd ... Personally I would have liked it more if you arrived and ran into Ash like on Eden Prime. She could have some type of shield protecting her, which would give you the inspiration later to use a biotic shield on the Collectors Base. You could then pick Ash as a playable (think LotSB game play) with one other team mate already with you, leaving the third wheel to stay behind and calibrate or something. Once the fighting is over then the dialogue could occur and it could be heated as a result of not only the past but because of the adrenaline that is still rushing after the fight.

Just an idea ... and could her mail to you afterwards been a vid-mail and not just some stupid text. That really sucked for those who had her as an LI.

[PMC65]

Badpie wrote...

So here's a question for you folks who played Arrival. There is one guard in the entire dlc that has a name. Not only is that name Williams but they make a point of not once but twice making sure you hear the name Williams. You know, just before you shoot the guy.

Several possibilities spring to mind:
1. Totally meaningless, though if that were the case why would they even bother naming one of the sea of security you're fighting?

2. This will be important later in some way relating to Ash, her family, ties to the Alliance and Cerberus, etc.

3. Bioware was giving everyone who wanted Ash dlc the finger by saying "Look! See? Williams is in Arrival!"

I'm kind of curious to see if #2 is the case.

I didn't notice that when I played Arrival. She doesn't say she has a brother, just three sisters so hhmmmm. That may come back to bite Shep in the ass ... Maybe it was her favorite cousin and the next time you see Ash she will look you in the eye and say "Hello. My name is Ash Williams. You killed my cousin. Prepare to die." (Inigo Montoya steal from The Princess Bride)

[MillaShepard]

Badpie wrote...

So here's a question for you folks who played Arrival. There is one guard in the entire dlc that has a name. Not only is that name Williams but they make a point of not once but twice making sure you hear the name Williams. You know, just before you shoot the guy.

Several possibilities spring to mind:
1. Totally meaningless, though if that were the case why would they even bother naming one of the sea of security you're fighting?

2. This will be important later in some way relating to Ash, her family, ties to the Alliance and Cerberus, etc.

3. Bioware was giving everyone who wanted Ash dlc the finger by saying "Look! See? Williams is in Arrival!"

I'm kind of curious to see if #2 is the case.

Good question..  When I played Arrival for the first time it struck me as odd that the only guard that was given a name was named Williams..  I mean.. they could've named him anything so I find it hard to believe that it has no meaning.  That part was so quick and random though that I would be surprised if there was anything to it beyond the possibility of your #1 or #3.  If it is important in some way, who could he have been?  Ashley's cousin or uncle maybe?  For the most part the folks at Bioware seem to do everything for a reason.. (usually)..  and it would be interesting to see (if anything) what comes of this. 

[Lord Zeuss]

PMC65 wrote...

Badpie wrote...

So here's a question for you folks who played Arrival. There is one guard in the entire dlc that has a name. Not only is that name Williams but they make a point of not once but twice making sure you hear the name Williams. You know, just before you shoot the guy.

Several possibilities spring to mind:
1. Totally meaningless, though if that were the case why would they even bother naming one of the sea of security you're fighting?

2. This will be important later in some way relating to Ash, her family, ties to the Alliance and Cerberus, etc.

3. Bioware was giving everyone who wanted Ash dlc the finger by saying "Look! See? Williams is in Arrival!"

I'm kind of curious to see if #2 is the case.

I didn't notice that when I played Arrival. She doesn't say she has a brother, just three sisters so hhmmmm. That may come back to bite Shep in the ass ... Maybe it was her favorite cousin and the next time you see Ash she will look you in the eye and say "Hello. My name is Ash Williams. You killed my cousin. Prepare to die." (Inigo Montoya steal from The Princess Bride)

Given how many Jacobs there were in ME1 which were completely unrelated to Mr. Taylor, I'm inclined to think it was just a throwaway line.

[xelander]

IIRC, in ME2 medi-gel is being dispensed in small doses by your armor health monitoring system or somesuch (which is what happens when your health is automatically restored during battle if you don't take further hits for a time) and Shepard's use of medi-gel is actually the revamped Unity ability. So the explanation for Ashley's quick recovery could be the armor.

As for why the Collectors didn't load her first onto the ship, being that they probably know who she is... I really don't know. Luck is the best explanation until we know more, if we'd ever know more.

EDIT: Medi-gel should work, since the swarms immobilize by toxin and weak mini stasis fields; so once the mothership is gone, the swarms would probably relinquish the stasis and the medi-gel would take care of the toxin.

Modifié par xelander, 20 avril 2011 - 03:03 .