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The 'official' Ashley Williams support thread 1.1


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#9626
Vertigo_1

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Lee337 wrote...

The mag isn't supposed to be realeased until the 28th, so I wonder where these scans came from and if they are real. Because it doesn't seem professionally written at all. Might be fake?


Well I found the source...not sure I am allowed to post the link to the guys site.  Anyway if you look at the top right of most scans you see "KB Gaming media scans"...just search that with Mass Effect and it should be the first link.
Anyway he has done other magazines that are legit (The PC Gamer one is one I can confirm) and so one could assume this one is too.
How well it was written though...that's another story.  Part of me thinks they made up things so that they could get attention to their magazine which honestly I never heard of (Only ever heard of the official Playstation 3 Magazine)

The whole VS as Spectres thing I am neutral on.  On the one hand I can see that they could be the logical choice for humanity but on the other hand how capable are these two to become Spectres? and aren't there other N7 candidates out there?

What I'm saying is I don't really mind them being Specters unless Bioware can give a good explanation as to how they got there (maybe they were targetted as possible SPECTRE candidates during Shepards death period and didn't tell him/her during Horizon?)

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Elite Midget

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Well, I'm not buying their subpar magazine if they must resort to such childish jokes and outright lieing when it's clear they haven't played a single ME game just to get attention.

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Top of the page Ash.
I can't get enough of this one, posted by Badpie.Posted Image

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Well, it is poorly written because the writer owns a PS3... and you know what that means (just kidding). This is good news if true. And I wouldn't be surprised if it was. Leaked stuff usually is.

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Oh those eyes. Them brown eyed gals are something I tell you.

Won't suprise me if it is true either. I'm ok either way and can wait. I will say there are some things that will probably be publicized that I'd rather learn in gameplay but that pretty much means staying away from the forums. And I'm not going to do that.

Did y'all see those eyes?

#9631
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mmmmmmmmm badpie got the best pic.

IF loving those eyes considers you xenophonic then all hail humans!

#9632
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I wonder how the hell she did this...When I look at it I can imagine her over Shepard trying to wake him up :lol:

Modifié par g54, 22 avril 2011 - 04:13 .


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I remember these eyes ;)

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g54 wrote...

I wonder how the hell she did this...When I look at it I can imagine her over Shepard trying to wake him up :lol:


She should know the consequences by now that if she is that close to Shep he would upon waking up smother her with kisses.:wub:

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This reminds me of what Ashley just told me in tonight's gaming session when we were discussing what we'd do after taking care of Saren: "I'm a hellcat off the field as well as on." Rawwwrrrr...

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"Sleep tight Shepard." I love that line.

Anywho, can anyone message me a link (is that against da rules?) to the PMS err PSM ashley pic. Thanks in advance to anyone that can.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

SHE'S NOT XENOPHOBIC!!!!!!!! *punches personwho wrote her description* She's also not sexually aggressive. (unless provoked ;) )


Xeno-skeptical? Xeno-wary?

Need something better than tacking the "-phobic" suffix onto someone and handwaving them away.

#9638
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Racial cynic? And chesty? Really? They pretty much outright insulted their only clientele. Not that anyone who believes that bull would understand anyways.

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I think when Ash describes the Council races, she is actually describing herself perfectly. After giving her Bear vs Dog analogy she says "It's not racism. Not really. Members of their species will always be more important to them than humans are." That is the view she takes.

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Sinapus wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

SHE'S NOT XENOPHOBIC!!!!!!!! *punches personwho wrote her description* She's also not sexually aggressive. (unless provoked ;) )


Xeno-skeptical? Xeno-wary?

Need something better than tacking the "-phobic" suffix onto someone and handwaving them away.


I often wish people used terms the same way that I use them within sociology (and to be even more accurate, the ways in which the specific sociological theories I adhere to use the terms). It would be significantly easier to discuss the racial issues presented in the Mass Effect universe if people weren't always bickering about word conotations.

Setting the impossible wish aside, I like xeno-skeptical.

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Sinapus wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

SHE'S NOT XENOPHOBIC!!!!!!!! *punches personwho wrote her description* She's also not sexually aggressive. (unless provoked ;) )


Xeno-skeptical? Xeno-wary?

Need something better than tacking the "-phobic" suffix onto someone and handwaving them away.


Calling Ashley a Xenophobe is illogical, because by definition a phobia implies that Ashley's views are irrational fears. Ashley feels that the other races may not always be allies. Quite frankly there's nothing irrational about that. The one word that I feel best describes Ash's views are that of a Nationalist. She pretty much clearly states that Humanity should be ready to stand on their own just in case other species are no longer allies. The big problem I'm notcing is a lot of people are stuck on the race thing when really, it's more like comparing different nations. It's not racist to feel that the United States or Great Britain or France should not have to rely on aid from nations.

Just my 2 cents. :)

Modifié par PrinceLionheart, 22 avril 2011 - 05:35 .


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nickkcin11 wrote...

I think when Ash describes the Council races, she is actually describing herself perfectly. After giving her Bear vs Dog analogy she says "It's not racism. Not really. Members of their species will always be more important to them than humans are." That is the view she takes.


That is common sense but noooooooo if you say that to aliens then your considered "Immoral."

Yeah if a human shows allegiance more to a human controlled colony then say an asari homeworld thats usually the norm is it not?

Trying to give people real world scenarios is also an easy thing to make them figure out ash isnt a xenophobe but most of these type of arguments really try not to pay attention when you destroy their argument.

IF aliens pop up tomorrow I doubt everyone will be all "Well I trust them enough and if you dont your a xenophobe."

Some people are just stupid:pinched:

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PrinceLionheart wrote...

Sinapus wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

SHE'S NOT XENOPHOBIC!!!!!!!! *punches personwho wrote her description* She's also not sexually aggressive. (unless provoked ;) )


Xeno-skeptical? Xeno-wary?

Need something better than tacking the "-phobic" suffix onto someone and handwaving them away.


Calling Ashley a Xenophobe is illogical, because by definition a phobia implies that Ashley's views are irrational fears. Ashley feels that the other races may not always be allies. Quite frankly there's nothing irrational about that. The one word that I feel best describes Ash's views are that of a Nationalist. She pretty much clearly states that Humanity should be ready to stand on their own just in case other species are no longer allies. The big problem I'm notcing is a lot of people are stuck on the race thing when really, it's more like comparing different nations. It's not racist to feel that the United States or Great Britain or France should not have to rely on aid from nations.

Just my 2 cents. :)



We have to realize that certain characters are going to be bashed no matter what they do. Jacob, Ashley or Kaiden could single-handedly ****-slap a reaper and they still would get little or no recognition. HATERS GONNA HATE no matter what.

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Elite Midget

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Good point. If Aliens appeared and attacked us without warning and my family name was tarnished I wouldn't be very trusting of Aliens.

#9645
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 wat does ash say after the final mission... how do you find out
(you know when she says "and shepered i just wanted u to know... wait you know what youll just have to come back to me to hear this")

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bleesoomer wrote...

 wat does ash say after the final mission... how do you find out
(you know when she says "and shepered i just wanted u to know... wait you know what youll just have to come back to me to hear this")


As far as I know, that hasn't been revealed yet.

Modifié par Prince of Kemet, 22 avril 2011 - 10:18 .


#9647
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If Ashley were Krogan or Quarian, it doesn't bother nobody obsviouly. Aliens have the right to hate a species ( Wrex, Grunt, Tali, many Turians ), but a human has no right simply to express his distrust, a distrust fully justified.

Anyway, humans are all racists !

Modifié par Sylvianus, 22 avril 2011 - 11:51 .


#9648
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Hey, just dropping in here to post a link to my poll on the VS as a spectre, as I figure you VS fans will have some interesting view on this topic.
(yes, I did copy and paste this post in the other VS thread)

#9649
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It's just how liberals think.
Humans are all racist (especially whitey)
All these Alien races are peaceful loving creatures who would never do anything to harm us.

#9650
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I'm putting and end to the Ash/racism talk by posting her pic. Here!

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