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Errol Dnamyx

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i agree,out of all the charecters bioware has made for the ME universe i
really think they put the most effort into makeing these charecters

1.Ashley
williams
2.Garrus
3.Wrex
4.Legion


every one else's
story/charecter seems rather unitersting or unorginal IMO.



Hmmm... you won´t like whats coming next...

As much as I lurve everything about Ash, I don´t think her background is that original.
Normal soldier, intact family (yes her father is dead, but that happens eventually and she was already adult when he died), and no special assignments until her recruitment to the Normandy crew. The only outstanding thing is that her family is looked down upon by the alliance command because they needed a scapegoat 26 years ago.

*runs*

Modifié par Errol Dnamyx, 07 juin 2010 - 08:10 .


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ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

@Ashlover, I hope she is a squad mate, but i doubt she will have more dialogue than she had in ME1 she had more dialouge in ME1 than every squad mate in ME1 and ME2, Ash was a rare thing a caracter who is a LI and a friend. If you play as femShep you will notice you can develope a very close friendship with Ash.


i agree,out of all the charecters bioware has made for the ME universe i really think they put the most effort into makeing these charecters

1.Ashley williams
2.Garrus
3.Wrex
4.Legion


every one else's story/charecter seems rather unitersting or unorginal IMO.



I thought Thane, Mordin, Kaiden, Zaeed, Kasumi and Grunt were interesting also though. Thane was a little clech'e though, but i thought he was well done. People found Kaiden boring, but that was a good thing about him in away, he was realistic compared to most caracters, Zaeed could have done with more dialouge but i dont see why people dislike him, i thought he was pretty cool. Bioware have got to make caracters that are LI's have the option to just be friends also. I did'nt mind playing as femShep becuase the LI from my canon playthrough (Ash) is my best friend in this playthrough. It's the same with Kaiden if your maleShep i felt like he was a good friend, they did this with Jacob in ME2 sadly Jacob was just a good friend and not a great LI lol.

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Hmmm... you won´t like whats coming next...

As much as I lurve everything about Ash, I don´t think her background is that original.
Normal soldier, intact family (yes her father is dead, but that happens eventually and she was already adult when he died), and no special assignments until her recruitment to the Normandy crew. The only outstanding thing is that her family is looked down upon by the alliance command because they needed a scapegoat 26 years ago.

*runs*

its still more intersting than an assain whos wife was murdered by his enmies and he gose into a murderous john rambo/frank castle punisher rage abadons his son to hunt them down one by one and kill them for revenge.
or some random test tube krogan who just wants too kill things.

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No need to run Errol. We don't stone people here. We do that in other places. : )

I like her back ground well enough. What I like most I guess is that it drives her to do better. I like the fact that she has a family and is close to them. That may seem normal to some. But in the ME universe it almost makes her unique.

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ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Hmmm... you won´t like whats coming next...

As much as I lurve everything about Ash, I don´t think her background is that original.
Normal soldier, intact family (yes her father is dead, but that happens eventually and she was already adult when he died), and no special assignments until her recruitment to the Normandy crew. The only outstanding thing is that her family is looked down upon by the alliance command because they needed a scapegoat 26 years ago.

*runs*

its still more intersting than an assain whos wife was murdered by his enmies and he gose into a murderous john rambo/frank castle punisher rage abadons his son to hunt them down one by one and kill them for revenge.
or some random test tube krogan who just wants too kill things.


I think I just don´t care as much as other people about what happened in her past but how she presents herself now. And she doesn´t have to have a background as unique or downright crazy as other ME characters possess to be my #1. I happen to like her "normality" the most.:wub:

Modifié par Errol Dnamyx, 07 juin 2010 - 08:19 .


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Well as I said earlier. Being normal in ME kinda makes you unique. Ash is worth it.

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Hmmm... you won´t like whats coming next...

As much as I lurve everything about Ash, I don´t think her background is that original.
Normal soldier, intact family (yes her father is dead, but that happens eventually and she was already adult when he died), and no special assignments until her recruitment to the Normandy crew. The only outstanding thing is that her family is looked down upon by the alliance command because they needed a scapegoat 26 years ago.

*runs*

its still more intersting than an assain whos wife was murdered by his enmies and he gose into a murderous john rambo/frank castle punisher rage abadons his son to hunt them down one by one and kill them for revenge.
or some random test tube krogan who just wants too kill things.


I think I just don´t care as much as other people about what happened in her past but how she presents herself now. And she doesn´t have to have a background as unique or downright crazy as other ME characters possess to be my #1. I happen to like her "normality" the most.:wub:

Agreed, I don't like her for her background. I like her for how she is now.

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LiamN7 wrote...
 Being normal in ME kinda makes you unique. Ash is worth it.


2 x 100% agree. Truer words were never spoken.:D

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drunken pyromaniac wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Hmmm... you won´t like whats coming next...

As much as I lurve everything about Ash, I don´t think her background is that original.
Normal soldier, intact family (yes her father is dead, but that happens eventually and she was already adult when he died), and no special assignments until her recruitment to the Normandy crew. The only outstanding thing is that her family is looked down upon by the alliance command because they needed a scapegoat 26 years ago.

*runs*

its still more intersting than an assain whos wife was murdered by his enmies and he gose into a murderous john rambo/frank castle punisher rage abadons his son to hunt them down one by one and kill them for revenge.
or some random test tube krogan who just wants too kill things.


I think I just don´t care as much as other people about what happened in her past but how she presents herself now. And she doesn´t have to have a background as unique or downright crazy as other ME characters possess to be my #1. I happen to like her "normality" the most.:wub:

Agreed, I don't like her for her background. I like her for how she is now.

wich is largely in part becauz of her background -_- ash would not be the person she is today if not for shanxi.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 07 juin 2010 - 08:30 .


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ashlover mark 2 wrote...

wich is largely in part becauz of her background -_- ash would not be the person she is today if not for shanxi.

Not really, you arrive at who you are by thought and contemplation as much as by experience. Her background is rather vanilla by ME standards. All the ME1 characters except for Wrex have rather vanilla backgrounds.

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shanxi seems to shape who the Williams familly is..no doubt her sisters will be the same...if htey aren't already...i just hope Ash will not go overboard

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wich is largely in part becauz of her background -_- ash would not be
the person she is today if not for shanxi.



That´s probably true, but still doesn´t change the fact that I am rather interested in how she is today and not as much in why. Not that I don´t care about her background at all, but it´s not the source of my fascination.

Ah well, it´s complicated... : /

Modifié par Errol Dnamyx, 07 juin 2010 - 08:35 .


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I wonder what if one of her sisters join the Alliance, if Ash sacrificed herself i wounder if they would be a squad mate in ME3?

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KendallX23 wrote...

shanxi seems to shape who the Williams familly is..no doubt her sisters will be the same...if htey aren't already...i just hope Ash will not go overboard

I kind of doubt it, she's a thoughtful, intelligent person underneath it all. She's no extremist.

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Hey all need some more idea's for the following. Things we like to see with/about Ashley in ME3. Once we get enough I'll talk to razer and see if he can make the nice image/font for the OP.

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Well your history and how you deal with it help make you who you are. Same with Ash. Family history and Shanxi helped drive her. But It isn't all she is. So it is a big part yes. It isn't the only part.

I am just glad bioware worked that as well as they did. They could have made her drive because of Shanxi her only thing. She could have be blind to anything else. You know revenge and family honor are all I have type. Ash is very layered in my opinion.

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Shanxi is certainly a contributor to many aspects of her personality, such as her defensiveness, the walls she builds to protect herself from others, and her initial mistrust of aliens - not to mention her apparent emotional need for approval and reassurance from Shepard (potentially any superior, but especially him). She has a want to be accepted that's driven by public reaction to Shanxi - and her "edge" that she projects is a reaction to that. I'd say it's a pretty defining thing for her ... not the event itself, but the psychological impacts of it.

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IMO ppl's past expernices are what mold them into wat they are today.example turians deafted her grandfather at shanxi as we all know,he was forced too surrender.he was use as a scapgoat and was blamed for the loss of the colony.....from that so called "disgrace" that had nothing to do with her at all.her mistrust for aliens is born.

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@ Silver Don't know if I would call it a want for acceptance because of public reaction to Shanxi. Deep desire to prove them wrong. She may not care what they really think of her or if they accept her. She wants to show them they are wrong. At least thats how I see it.

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ashlover mark 2 wrote...

IMO ppl's past expernices are what mold them into wat they are today.example turians deafted her grandfather at shanxi as we all know,he was forced too surrender.he was use as a scapgoat and was blamed for the loss of the colony.....from that so called "disgrace" that had nothing to do with her at all.her mistrust for aliens is born.

Indeed, but no person is formed solely through experience. Experience causes a reaction, thought and contemplation allows you to act.

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ashlover mark 2 wrote...

IMO ppl's past expernices are what mold them into wat they are today.example turians deafted her grandfather at shanxi as we all know,he was forced too surrender.he was use as a scapgoat and was blamed for the loss of the colony.....from that so called "disgrace" that had nothing to do with her at all.her mistrust for aliens is born.


And not to mention you are after a Turian spectre  who is a traitor, her mistrust of Garrus is obveous from this and Shanxi, Wrex....Nobody seem's to trust Krogans, other Krogans dont trust Krogans lol. Liara Benezia obveously. She dosent say anything about Tali, she seem's to trust Tali fine and likes her. Although judging by her elevator conversations she like all the squad.

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...
Being normal in ME kinda makes you unique. Ash is worth it.


2 x 100% agree. Truer words were never spoken.:D


dum-da-da-daaaaaaaaa!:wizard:

Normal is underrated, I agree.

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Someone just said Ashley has zero personality. What is this world coming to...? Posted Image

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Someone just said Ashley has zero personality. What is this world coming to...? Posted Image


Yeah i know, made me lol how he continued with the ME2 caracters are better developed lol.


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Some people are just beyond help...

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