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ahhh one of my incredibly talented friends is making some ash art for me. *jumps around excitedly* I cn't wait until she finishes.

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My occasional contribution to the thread:

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V-rex wrote...

nickkcin11 wrote...
 One things for sure though, Shep and Ash have a lot of catching up to do in ME3.Posted Image
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In more ways than one.

B)

YEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW!!!!!!

Sorry, a bit immature of me.:P

You think. That is so innappropriate. Post reported.



Jk.Posted ImageI bet you were pretty worried for like .4 seconds.

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i keep wondering what will happen to the poor souls who cheated on Ash with a ME2 LI.....i am thinking it won't be very healty...but the story still needs a Shepard so how bad can it be ?:P
I am not talking about my SHep....he always loyal....

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Not much Ashley, but enough that I feel the new cahpter should be posted here.

Guns and Poems

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KendallX23 wrote...

i keep wondering what will happen to the poor souls who cheated on Ash with a ME2 LI.....i am thinking it won't be very healty...but the story still needs a Shepard so how bad can it be ?:P
I am not talking about my SHep....he always loyal....


I have a cheater playthrough just for that reason, I think it will be similar to the triangle in me1 between Liara and Ash, I think Bioware will make the player choose between the 2 as I dont think they will want to ****** too many people off as they actively encouraged cheating imo. My main Shep is loyal though just incase Posted Image

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lawp79 wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

i keep wondering what will happen to the poor souls who cheated on Ash with a ME2 LI.....i am thinking it won't be very healty...but the story still needs a Shepard so how bad can it be ?:P
I am not talking about my SHep....he always loyal....


I have a cheater playthrough just for that reason, I think it will be similar to the triangle in me1 between Liara and Ash, I think Bioware will make the player choose between the 2 as I dont think they will want to ****** too many people off as they actively encouraged cheating imo. My main Shep is loyal though just incase Posted Image


Pft, if they cheated on Ashley, then they do not need her. Ashley should just turn them down hard....Very Hard.

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Raanz wrote...

My occasional contribution to the thread:

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:o! We need more Ashley fan art. I've being trying desperately for two months to improve my drawing skills.

Tali fans got it easy :(

VutaatVerd wrote...
Ashley should just turn them down hard....Very Hard.

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Curb Stomp?

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VutaatVerd wrote...

lawp79 wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

i keep wondering what will happen to the poor souls who cheated on Ash with a ME2 LI.....i am thinking it won't be very healty...but the story still needs a Shepard so how bad can it be ?:P
I am not talking about my SHep....he always loyal....


I have a cheater playthrough just for that reason, I think it will be similar to the triangle in me1 between Liara and Ash, I think Bioware will make the player choose between the 2 as I dont think they will want to ****** too many people off as they actively encouraged cheating imo. My main Shep is loyal though just incase Posted Image


Pft, if they cheated on Ashley, then they do not need her. Ashley should just turn them down hard....Very Hard.


Whilst i agree with you i dont think it will happen.

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

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Her views on aliens are naive and not an "acquired taste".

She's the only character, whose views are not naive. Just say'n.


Lot of truth in that.

She gets blasted as "omg racist" because she points out that the aliens will look out for their own interests first and foremost.  It's not as if humanity won't do the same.  Of all the people on your crew, she seems to understand geopolitics better than anyone else.

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Aedan_Cousland wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

Here's the thing. Knowing your job is important, and there is a big difference between the training a Marine receives and a Navy officer receives - before they become SpecOps, that is. Marines do not have "shipboard training" except where the bathroom (head) is and how to operate a watertight door. Therefore for a role as critical as second in command of a prototype reconnaissance starship, you can bet that Shepard was Navy. To say otherwise would be to say that Captain Anderson was Navy, and third in command (Pressly) was Navy, but second in command (Shepard) was Marines. That's not how a "real" military organization would staff things, especially for an experimental vessel.

I will try to ask someone at Bioware for clarification. Let's agree to table this discussion for benefit of the Ashley Williams community in the meantime until I hear back. A few minutes ago I had been convinced that Shepard must have indeed been a Marine based off the EASTORE advertisement link for ME3, but then I realized that in reality the marketing people who create the description are not the same people (the developers) who know the characters. There certainly are inconsistencies, for every example provided in the games of Shepard being referred to as a Marine I can provide one or more that refers to him as Navy. So let me see what I can find out from the horse's mouth.

 
It doesn't make sense when compared to the real world for there to only be one service for all roles, but that is established canon in the Mass Effect Universe. Instead of having the Army, Navy and Marines as seperate services, the Alliance has sort of combined all three into a single entity. Marines and shipboard personnel (a.k.a. Sailors) are all part of the same service in the Mass Effect universe. A Marine in the Mass Effect Universe is more of an occupational speciality than seperate branch of the Alliance military.

That being said, Shepard is a Marine. Besides being referred to as a Marine in all the marketing and interviews, he's also referred to as a Marine in the game.

I don't recall him ever being referred to as a Sailor.

As for why Shepard, as a Marine, would captain a ship...perhaps shipboard functions are part of the N7 training program? It wouldn't be too far fetched if the N7s also have their own frigates and smaller craft for use on some of their missions, though I can't imagine them using anything larger.


There is at least one place in ME1 where Shepard introduces himself as Alliance Navy.  I don't remember where exactly, haven't played ME1 in a little while.

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nickkcin11 wrote...

Do you think that Ash will be less spiritual now that she knows about the Reapers or more spiritual. Just a random thought that wandered into my head, like everything else I do.


I'd hope the same or more.  If less, I'd be disappointed.  That's one of the things I loved so much about her.

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jamesp81 wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

BornFree87 wrote...
Her views on aliens are naive and not an "acquired taste".

She's the only character, whose views are not naive. Just say'n.


Lot of truth in that.

She gets blasted as "omg racist" because she points out that the aliens will look out for their own interests first and foremost.  It's not as if humanity won't do the same.  Of all the people on your crew, she seems to understand geopolitics better than anyone else.


Hmph, i didnt mean it like that .:wizard:

BornFree87 wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

BornFree87 wrote...
Her views on aliens are naive and not an "acquired taste".

She's the only character, whose views are not naive. Just say'n.


Hmm,let me rephrase it then as might not have used the right words.
I'm not refering to her questioning whether the aliens should be allowed
around sensitive areas as thats logical to me but more in the sense of her "World view".
Her views on aliens/foreigners in general would be too pessimistic(my opinion)
and after going down the paragon route,she understands the reasons behind the council's decisions
without just chalking it up to each race protecting their own.../../../../images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png



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jamesp81 wrote...

nickkcin11 wrote...

Do you think that Ash will be less spiritual now that she knows about the Reapers or more spiritual. Just a random thought that wandered into my head, like everything else I do.


I'd hope the same or more.  If less, I'd be disappointed.  That's one of the things I loved so much about her.


I concur on this, what i liked about Ashley was that she felt real. I dont mind her looking "prettier" but i pray they dont make her do a 360 on her personality.:(

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Hey all. Long time no post! Took a break from the forums. I bring you f'art (hehehe).

http://badpie1.devia...t.com/#/d3g9jnh

Soo..... how is everyone? :D

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Badpie wrote...

Hey all. Long time no post! Took a break from the forums. I bring you f'art (hehehe).

http://badpie1.devia...t.com/#/d3g9jnh

Soo..... how is everyone? :D

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Badpie wrote...

Hey all. Long time no post! Took a break from the forums. I bring you f'art (hehehe).

http://badpie1.devia...t.com/#/d3g9jnh

Soo..... how is everyone? :D

Some demm fine art there... I was surprised you didn't exploit Jacob's famous line in your fanfic =]

ADLegend21 wrote...
trying to find a way to make the fight on Horizon and actual fight../../../images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png

Shep's a Spectre. I'd imagine she would try to use her authority to force Ash to join, but getting some resistance from her?

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lawp79 wrote...

VutaatVerd wrote...

lawp79 wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

i keep wondering what will happen to the poor souls who cheated on Ash with a ME2 LI.....i am thinking it won't be very healty...but the story still needs a Shepard so how bad can it be ?:P
I am not talking about my SHep....he always loyal....


I have a cheater playthrough just for that reason, I think it will be similar to the triangle in me1 between Liara and Ash, I think Bioware will make the player choose between the 2 as I dont think they will want to ****** too many people off as they actively encouraged cheating imo. My main Shep is loyal though just incase Posted Image


Pft, if they cheated on Ashley, then they do not need her. Ashley should just turn them down hard....Very Hard.


Whilst i agree with you i dont think it will happen.


I struggle on this one ...

My first playthrough Shepard fell 100% for Ashley and once he was raised from the dead couldn't wait to see her again.

And then the meeting on Horizon SUCKED! Poor dumb Shepard just stood there while Ash changed gears from "You are a God" to "Frack you liar!" (that is what my Shep heard through all her words). Their interaction was born out of frustration, confusion and anger .... Posted Image

Shepard loved her and felt like a Mako ran over him when he was back on the Normandy.

Yes, she sent an e-mail:
 
"I'm sorry for what I said back on Horizon. When I lost you two years ago, it tore me up. I prayed for you every day. I read a lot of Tennyson, thinking about you, just like I did when my dad passed. And then you came back, and it was like my prayers were answered.

But I'm not who I was then, and neither are you. I don't know what's true anymore. Part of me can't believe it's really you. I keep going back to that night before Ilos, our night... I haven't let myself think about those memories in over a year. I wouldn't have expected you to work for Cerberus, but I know why they sent you to Horizon. I saw how many people were lost there, and if anyone can stop the Collectors, you can. I can't go where you're going, but I can wish you luck.

Just stay alive out there... Skipper. I don't know what the future holds, but I can't lose you a second time.

Ash"

But because he was so hurt & confused at the time, all he read were the lines in bold missing the true heart of the letter. Instead of saving the e-mail where he might have, in a cooler moment, really read all the words, the dummy deleted the e-mail and damaged the laptop in the process. IDIOT!!!!

As he tried to push her out of his mind & heart, Miranda was there supporting him. Over time, they bonded, starting with him seeing her softer side as they rescued Oriana and before he knew what had happened they were together. He did not actively search out a new love, or look for someone to bed ... He just thought that Ash was finished with him and did not think that there was a future. He honestly cares about Miranda, but he loves Ashley.

This Shepard will be in for a rough ride in ME3 ... He isn't a bad guy and he doesn't want to hurt Miranda. But he loves Ashley and if she allows him back ... well, I'm not sure what he'll do. He feels that Ash is the stronger of the two women and therefore may handle not being with him better that Miranda. I just think that both Shepard and Ashley will suffer in the end because he is such a good guy. Will Ash fight for Shepard back? I don't mean a cat fight ... but not just say "you are with Miranda ... I walk!" I would hate that!!!!!! I want her to pull my Shepard over to her and make him know that she loves him ... oh, and that he is a big IDIOT!
Poor schmuck - He is my second favorite Shepard and the one that I really can't wait to play in ME3.  Posted Image

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ADLegend21 wrote...

Badpie wrote...

Hey all. Long time no post! Took a break from the forums. I bring you f'art (hehehe).

http://badpie1.devia...t.com/#/d3g9jnh

Soo..... how is everyone? :D

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Hmmm.  That's a tough one.  Good luck!

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Antivenger wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...
trying to find a way to make the fight on Horizon and actual fight../../../images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png

Shep's a Spectre. I'd imagine she would try to use her authority to force Ash to join, but getting some resistance from her?

lol that wouldn't fly. They agreed on no "I'm a Spectre" from Shepard, so that's out of the window.Posted Image

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jamesp81 wrote...

nickkcin11 wrote...

Do you think that Ash will be less spiritual now that she knows about the Reapers or more spiritual. Just a random thought that wandered into my head, like everything else I do.


I'd hope the same or more.  If less, I'd be disappointed.  That's one of the things I loved so much about her.


I agree. It was so refreshing to see a character with spirituality in a video game. Not anything over the top, but just  a simple faith in a higher power. I admit I was shocked when I first discovered it.  As far as the Reapers existence effecting her beliefs, I think not. Her beliefs are part of her, tied to her closeness to her family and her confidence as a woman and as a soldier. Well, that is my opinion anyway.

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Badpie wrote...

Hey all. Long time no post! Took a break from the forums. I bring you f'art (hehehe).

http://badpie1.devia...t.com/#/d3g9jnh

Soo..... how is everyone? :D


Awww, Pregnant Ash is so cute.:wub:

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Well, I did it....I've made possibly the worst moment of the Ashmance...even worse. Don't hate me.

Super Horizon


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ADLegend21 wrote...

Well, I did it....I've made possibly the worst moment of the Ashmance...even worse. Don't hate me.

Super Horizon


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Wow! And here I thought my Shepard was screwed.

The fight seemed real and very honest ... The things we can say when in a heated argument with a loved one. Posted Image 

Really enjoyed (in a painful kind of way) so now I have to start at the beginning ... Posted Image