[quote]LeVaughnX wrote..
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To begin with let me just say this:
"What the hell did you think was going to happen when you went onto our thread and directly insulted our favorite character?"
[quote]1.) A single response isn't going to sell a product. Just because you can type in a beautiful manner doesn't mean its going to have a grand outcome. [/quote]
Exactly, which is why entering a thread with a single line about how Ashley's a 'racist ****' probably wasn't the greatest conversation starter.
[quote]2.) I understand how to be tactical; and I understand that randomly calling something crap isn't going to get much positive attention.[/quote]
Then why did you do it?
[quote]However when someone has a reasonable argument they should at least have a reasonable response;[/quote]
If someone asks a reasonable question or presents a reasonable argument, they'll get a reasonable response. If they go in insulting and swearing, they get much of the same.
[quote]unless of course you don't truely believe in being a reasonable person and only believe in "fighting for what you believe in" which is another Religious / Fan-Boyisim ideal apparently...[/quote]
Dude, quit it with the bigot remarks about religion. I believe in being a reasonable person, but I don't bother to waste my time with someone who can't be the same.
[quote]3.) Judging from the negative responses I would imagine no one here has a reasonable "objection" to my comments about Ashley.[/quote]
Oh, believe me, I do.
However those 'objections' I have said in millions of walls of text in millions of threads millions of times. To put it down to bullet points:
- Ashley isn't racist
- Ashley isn't a heartless b*tch
- Ashley does care about Shepard, her response on Horizon doesn't erase that
- Ashley isn't nearly as bad as people say she is.
The reason I don't feel like saying it here? Because this is the ONE place on this entire f*cking site where I shouldn't have to. All we want is to hang out, discuss Ashley, and talk among friends and raise conversation. That's it, here is a place for fans of Ashley.
You come in yelling abuse and insults and ****** us all off and then act surprised that our only response to you is contempt.
[quote]Most of you are either trolling / flaming[/quote]
Flaming, maybe.
Trolling? No, that's all you.
Trolling is the act of saying something shocking and offensive to people in order to get lots of people replying at you. All we are doing is retaliating to the trolling.
[quote]or the only one who did respond can't come up with a reason to justify Ashleys ignorant and childish behaviour; meaning that in general this is an extremely one sided thing here.[/quote]
Perhaps to them it wasn't ignorant or childish behavior? To see someone you loved return from the grave, now working for a terrorist organization that is the arch enemy of the army you serve and have to try to come to terms with your loyalty and your emotions and recover from the trauma all like that within five minutes?
Not everyone can do that.
But of course maybe we just decided it's not worth trying to communicate with someone who goes onto a character thread with intent to bash the character of the thread, and then acts surprised when people get mad like he's somehow innocent.
[quote]I've stated before that I liked Ashley in ME1. I even said I chose her majority of the time because she seemed interesting. I thought over the course of the series she would mature into a less racist /radical[/quote]
Was never racist or radical.
Hey, how's this for a fun game? Instead of accusing us of lashing out with baseless arguments, how about you explain to us in exactly what way Ashley is racist.
Responding to those arguments is so much fun.
[quote]person and become more of a hard fought woman like Ripley from Alien (which is a damn good lead Female role). Hell even a Sarah Connor from T1 and 2 would have been welcome; but instead she turned back the maturity and kicked up the whole ""YOU BETRAYED MEE!"" "But...I've been dead?.." ""**** YOU I DON'T BELIEVE IT!!!!"" "Right.."[/quote]
See my above post about this.
[quote]Now then; I'm done trying to see something benifical about your little group and Ashley.. Apparently theres no light at the end of this tunnel.[/quote]
Okay, here's another trick you can try.
Go to the Jack thread and tell them that she's a disease carrying **** who looks ugly and deserves to be beaten up.
Go to the Tali thread and tell them that they are idolizing a shrieking violet sex doll designed to appeal to a creepy demographic of adolecent males.
Go to Miranda's thread and call her an empty **** with an arse full of cheesecake.
Go to the Garrus thread and tell them that he's an underrwritten uninteresting block of a character, made only to appeal to people who like listening to characters worship them.
In fact, just go to every single thread for every character and open up with a line that is essentially:
"Wow X character sucks, man it sucks. How the hell can you people like such a sucky character? Please tell me?"
Then do a mental list of how often you get backlash. Because that's essentially what you did here. Ashley fans, Garrus fans, Tali fans, Jack fans, Thane fans, Kaidan fans... whatever, people don't like having stuff they like insulted.
[quote]Theres a saying about pets; their nature reflects that of the owner..I say that the fan-base of Ashley kind of reflects upon what Ashley really is.[/quote]
Again, it would apply to every other character thread ever if you lashed out like that. Screw you.
Incidently I'm an overwieght extremely left wing Australian male who's just started a vegetarian diet, I'm almost the chemical opposite of Ashley in every way.
[quote]She didn't care about Shepard or she would have believed him more than she did;[/quote]
That's just stupid. The fact that she grieved for two years is evidence that she cared, she was depressed after he died, like, really depressed. Two years of grief and struggling to move on indicates that she cared quite a great deal.
Just because she has her own opinions and won't bend over backwards and become a doormat to whatever Shepard says or demands, doesn't mean she doesn't care. The fact that she's on Horizon on the off chance that he might have been alive, or the fact that she's been trying to find evidence to link the Collectors to the Reapers to present to the Council is indication enough of that.
[quote]and you guys don't care about gaining the support of a loyal Mass Effect player who generally and genuinely wants to have a new view on the game and its characters.[/quote]
Maybe we don't want to gain the support of someone who enters a thread saying that Ashley is a racist little b*tch and then adds all these other reasons why other characters are better while demanding we explain why she's so great.
Dude, there are better ways to present yourself. That's not a great way to start and it only got worse from there. After getting the reply from Balsaim Baige you went right back to the 'racist loudmouth' comments and again complaining about Horizon. You then took it one step forward by making an anti-religious comment in one of your replies to Shadow, which also doesn't help you earn friends.
Basically you opened the conversation with an inflammatory comment, continued the inflammatory comments, dropped a nice offensive remark about religion, continued to insult people for a little longer and then started arguing that WE were the ones who were making it hard to defend our cases.
Maybe we decided that we didn't want to try to explain it to you, or maybe we decided that it wasn't worth the effort given that people who argue that Ashley is racist will continue to do so no matter how many points you present.
[quote]I bid you good day, good night, and have a fun one kids[/quote]
So long, and thanks for all the fish.
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