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Telemachus78

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@Tele: You mean, of course, a tinfoil miniskirt. We're not just going to accept any old miniskirt!


I will probably be yelled at for this but I couldn't remember if it was tinfoil or not so I played it safe and said miniskirt.

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IndigoWolfe

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You can hear Ash say "Welcome back, Shepard" in the most recent IGN Preview.

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ebevan91 wrote...

Lol this thread has exploded in the past couple of days.

What a wonder a DEMO can do for a character after they were on teh back burner for a game.Posted Image

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

You can hear Ash say "Welcome back, Shepard" in the most recent IGN Preview.

i heard that to when i saw it......AWSOME, mass effect is not mass effect without Kim B/Ash kicking ass and doing it with style and grace. (At least not to me)

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

You can hear Ash say "Welcome back, Shepard" in the most recent IGN Preview.


Thanks Indigo!  I was wondering about that. :D

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Thanks for that, Indigo!! The only thing better than Ash!voice is actually seeing Ash.... Fingers crossed for lots of both in ME3.

Edit: @Milla: Jinx!  (Don't mind me, I'm just giddy).

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Batlass8 wrote...

Thanks for that, Indigo!! The only thing better than Ash!voice is actually seeing Ash.... Fingers crossed for lots of both in ME3.

Edit: @Milla: Jinx!  (Don't mind me, I'm just giddy).


lol! I don't mind at all Batty!  You bring some fun personality to your posts. ;)

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Bioware will be looking to top their engine room scene from ME2....

It will endup taking place in the Normandy cockpit....with Joker watching.:blink::pinched:

Joker:....this was not on m bucket list to see.
EDI: that is a joke
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I was being serious ADL. Bioware will drop the ball on the romance,you watch.:mellow:

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elektrego wrote...
If she still is the kick-ass soldier, who isn't afraid to speak her mind and fights passionately for the things, she believes in and recites the occasional poem, I will be more than happy.

To slightly alter a Huxley quote:
I want God, I want poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness, I want sin.
I want passion. I want Ash
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edit: eternal shame on me for misspelling 'Ashley'


I know this is a bit old considering how quick things have picked up, but I have to commend you for quoting Brave New World. That line in particular always stuck with me.


Shadow_82 wrote...

My full thoughts on New-Design!Ash. Bear with me *snip*


Some very good points there. A balanced view if I ever saw one. It does seem abundantly clear--now more than ever--that this is science fiction. Not that it wasn't clear before, but Ashley's new look could symbolize the third game's embracing of a slick, stylized approach.

The hair, pretty as it is, is indeed very impractical. And she's a soldier...with Miranda, Jack and Samara (regarding the outfits) it could be argued that it didn't matter as much since they used biotics (even though they definetely don't protect against everything, you could at least say they didn't need to be as restricted). Those things are necessary for Ashley. So...it would seem necessary to simply suspend our beliefs a little further.

Maybe a...low ponytail or a messy bun might have been more believable? A similar but looser 'do from ME1/2 might have implied a certain...strain. Like it's not the pre-approved military cut but she's too busy not dying to look in a mirror and fix it. Ah well, long as she has that...on the inside. 

I have nothing against Miranda. Not exactly a fan, but no intense hatred. I'm just a little uneasy about the constant comparisons. I don't like that she keeps coming up. It's not like she's the first woman to ever wear a catsuit. Really, when I figrst saw Ash's new look, I didn't think of her, I thought of Jill Valentine and her "battlesuit" in Resident Evil 5.

...That being said, I'm at least glad they didn't make Ash blonde and kept her face largely the same.

But yeah, they could put Ashley in Miranda's exact likeness and even vice versa, but they'll never be the same character, which is why I'm hoping "Mirandify" will fade from usage.

Modifié par LessThanKate, 09 juin 2011 - 03:35 .


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The thing about the hair I can see the change in the two years between ME1 and ME2 but the roughly month or two between ME2 and ME3 I can't see her changing her image that much in such a short amount of time. Anyways, I love the new hairstyle. Practicality be damned, I was one of the Ashaholics begging for her hair to be let down. So all is good in Telemachus land.

Modifié par Telemachus78, 09 juin 2011 - 03:54 .


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Telemachus78 wrote...

The thing about the hair I can see the change in the two years between ME1 and ME2 but the roughly month or two between ME2 and ME3 I can't see her changing her image that much in such a short amount of time. Anyways, I love the new hairstyle. Practicality be damned, I was one of the Ashaholics begging for her hair to be let down. So all is good in Telemachus land.



i agree,i like the new design as well,i see nothing  of miranda when i see the upgraded ash.i also felt that ash needed a new hair style for the final chapter same three year old bun would jut be cheap.

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

You can hear Ash say "Welcome back, Shepard" in the most recent IGN Preview.


Sorry IGN, I won't be walking off into the sunset with Liara. That honor goes to m'lady Ash.

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@PrinceLionheart: Right? I was a little bit offended by that guy's assumption! (And I didn't care for his criticism of Kaidan, either, I might add. Virmire Survivor Solidarity!)

@Milla: Hooray!  I found someone who appreciates my... let's call it rapier wit.  That sounds classier than "inane prattle."  :lol:

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PrinceLionheart wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

You can hear Ash say "Welcome back, Shepard" in the most recent IGN Preview.


Sorry IGN, I won't be walking off into the sunset with Liara. That honor goes to m'lady Ash.

feel sorry for any poor Kai fans watched that vidoe hopeing they might get a glimpse or mention of him only to be smacked in the face with a "Seriously who would wanna be with Kaidan".

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 09 juin 2011 - 04:08 .


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Batlass8 wrote...

@PrinceLionheart: Right? I was a little bit offended by that guy's assumption! (And I didn't care for his criticism of Kaidan, either, I might add. Virmire Survivor Solidarity!)

@Milla: Hooray!  I found someone who appreciates my... let's call it rapier wit.  That sounds classier than "inane prattle."  :lol:


VS solidarity indeed!  That guy was a schmuck if ya ask me.  His insult hit a little too close to home.  And rapier wit sounds about right.. :P

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ashlover mark 2 wrote...

PrinceLionheart wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

You can hear Ash say "Welcome back, Shepard" in the most recent IGN Preview.


Sorry IGN, I won't be walking off into the sunset with Liara. That honor goes to m'lady Ash.

feel sorry for any poor Kai fans watched that vidoe hopeing they might get a glimpse or mention of him only to be smacked in the face with a "Seriously who would wanna be with Kaidan".


Yeah, I really dislike it when Game Journalist take shots at the "unpopular character." It's like that one magazine that stated the only reason people saved Ashley over Kaidan was because she had boobs.

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Shadow!  Is this new?  :o  It has that sheen to it!  I like it!!

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tbh though dont think it was meant to bash kai,it kinda came across to me as kindve a wink to us hardcore LI fanbase's,them trying to say "oh yea weve been to the bioware fan boards and youtube comment sections,we know how you all are so while were talking about Li's well through in a joke about it".none the less it was annoying.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 09 juin 2011 - 04:23 .


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@Ashlover: Just because it was a joke, doesn't mean I can't get irrationally offended by it! THIS IS THE INTERNET!! ; )

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Batlass8 wrote...

@Ashlover: Just because it was a joke, doesn't mean I can't get irrationally offended by it! THIS IS THE INTERNET!! ; )

your right of course,would you like me to release the Kraken?

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I am numb to the LI bashing that has run-a-muck because of the bright sunshine of Optimism!

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Three things I really want for Ash in ME3

1) An Anders style kiss from Dragon age 2 (You know the one i'm talking about people who know what i'm talking aboutB)) Maybe have Ash awkwardly apologize to shepard. Then Shepard kisses her midsentance. it be a hell of a interrupt.  

2) Bioware should incorporate the last few lines of Ulysses into Ash's dialogue (even if she isn't your LI). 

"Tho' much is taken, much abides; and tho' 
We are not now that strength which in old days 
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,-- 
One equal temper of heroic hearts, 
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will 
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."

3) we need to figure out what she was going to say that night before Ilos.

OH WAIT!! Also this quote needs to be explained from Horizon.

"I thought you were dead i almost.....How could you put me through that?" 

What did she almost do? I feared the worst  when she first said that. I hope they follow up on that in ME 3.

Modifié par trobbins777, 09 juin 2011 - 04:43 .


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trobbins777 wrote...

Three things I really want for Ash in ME3

1) An Anders style kiss from Dragon age 2 (You know the one i'm talking about people who know what i'm talking aboutB)) Maybe have Ash awkwardly apologize to shepard. Then Shepard kisses her midsentance. it be a hell of a interrupt.  

2) Bioware should incorporate the last few lines of Ulysses into Ash's dialogue (even if she isn't your LI). 

"Tho' much is taken, much abides; and tho' 
We are not now that strength which in old days 
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,-- 
One equal temper of heroic hearts, 
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will 
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."

3) we need to figure out what she was going to say that night before Ilos.

OH WAIT!! Also this quote needs to be explained from Horizon.

"I thought you were dead i almost.....How could you put me through that?" 

What did she almost do? I feared the worst  when she first said that. I hope they follow up on that in ME 3.

i pretty much think ash tells you what she was gonna say the night before ilos when she tells you that she was in love with you when they reunite on horzion.

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PrinceLionheart wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

PrinceLionheart wrote...

IndigoWolfe wrote...

You can hear Ash say "Welcome back, Shepard" in the most recent IGN Preview.


Sorry IGN, I won't be walking off into the sunset with Liara. That honor goes to m'lady Ash.

feel sorry for any poor Kai fans watched that vidoe hopeing they might get a glimpse or mention of him only to be smacked in the face with a "Seriously who would wanna be with Kaidan".


Yeah, I really dislike it when Game Journalist take shots at the "unpopular character." It's like that one magazine that stated the only reason people saved Ashley over Kaidan was because she had boobs.


Yeah, weird thing about journalism, you're kind of supposed to keep those things to yourself. I'll have you know, Mister unisex but largely considered feminine name, I have three Shepards; one of them is with Kaiden and none of them are into Liara. So there :P

Seriously, I just want the details, those extra jabs take me out of it. Even when in favor, they can be insulting, like that article describing Ashley as "sexually agressive" and "xenophobic". Way to perpetuate the negative light for the character.

I know we've sort of left the topic of her hair, but I just remembered she was originally designed to have very short hair in the first game. Would that have been better for any of you? Short hair can be very cute on some women; I think Ash could pull it off.