That was wonderful, especially the Ashley part. I'll miss her a lot.Balsam Beige wrote...
Here's an excellent Shepley video by Genol3oost.
Remember Me
The 'official' Ashley Williams support thread 1.1
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VutaatVerd
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Опубликовано 05 Апрель 2013 - 11:40
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#14002
Опубликовано 06 Апрель 2013 - 06:01
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Gkonone wrote...
That was wonderful, especially the Ashley part. I'll miss her a lot.Balsam Beige wrote...
Here's an excellent Shepley video by Genol3oost.
Remember Me
Agreed, that was great. I'll miss Ashley a lot too.
Glad to see that this thread is still around. I've never romanced anyone other than Ashley. Why? Because the way I see it, Ash is perfect for Shep, seeing as how they are both military. Shep/Ash are both hot headed, stubborn, and it makes their relationship that much more passionate with the ups and downs.
Just wish Bioware didn't screw up by leaving out Ash most of ME2 and then waiting until after Rannoch before Shep could even seal the deal with her in ME3. By the time you get to Rannoch you're like 3/4 done with the game.
That being said, still worth it for my male Shep to be with Ash.
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Опубликовано 06 Апрель 2013 - 10:50
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There was a very easy solution for BW to solve the lack of content in ME2 for Ashley, to some extent that is anyway. You recieve one email from her, why not have her send more?
Her asking how things are, perhaps having her saying she does miss him etc. Lot of options there.
Perhaps a little meeting where they briefly meet and afterwards she has to leave on a mission for quite some time so another meeting isn't possible.
That wouldn't have taken that many resources to pull off for BW.
At least the emails might be possible to do in a mod perhaps?
Her asking how things are, perhaps having her saying she does miss him etc. Lot of options there.
Perhaps a little meeting where they briefly meet and afterwards she has to leave on a mission for quite some time so another meeting isn't possible.
That wouldn't have taken that many resources to pull off for BW.
At least the emails might be possible to do in a mod perhaps?
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Опубликовано 06 Апрель 2013 - 11:14
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Gkonone wrote...
There was a very easy solution for BW to solve the lack of content in ME2 for Ashley, to some extent that is anyway. You recieve one email from her, why not have her send more?
Her asking how things are, perhaps having her saying she does miss him etc. Lot of options there.
Perhaps a little meeting where they briefly meet and afterwards she has to leave on a mission for quite some time so another meeting isn't possible.
That wouldn't have taken that many resources to pull off for BW.
At least the emails might be possible to do in a mod perhaps?
Good idea. More emails would have been fitting. I mean Ash just found out her love is alive after being dead I would think she'd want to send more emails. That and I would think Shep would want to email her more since he would still have feelings for her.
Bioware just dropped the ball on Ash after ME1. ME3 they tried to recover but they focused too much on her looks (which I will admit was an upgrade), and not enough on dialogue and character interactions.
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Опубликовано 07 Апрель 2013 - 02:58
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I'm working on email mod.Gkonone wrote...
At least the emails might be possible to do in a mod perhaps?
http://social.biowar...sion/27425/&p=1
Actually, we have an active Ashley group
http://social.bioware.com/group/7931/
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Опубликовано 07 Апрель 2013 - 04:16
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Gkonone wrote...
Aw, never did that, romancing another in ME2 I meant. How does it change it?CDR David Shepard wrote...
Just started a new playthrough myself.
I always romance Ashley.
It's a shame that she doesn't get much time in ME2...and during the middle part of ME3.
However, i think the beginning of ME3 was great for her romance. Especially if you romance someone else in ME2.
I did see a video on youtube of someone doing that and you have a bit of a discussion in ME3, Ashley not liking it and all. Not sure if you meant that.
I actually liked that option, it's not there if you stayed loyal I think. It feels right to argue a bit, it's been 2 years and all.
I think it is perfect for storyline purpose.
In ME2...it makes sense...storywise...that after what happened on Horizon...that Shepard would go to someone else.
Then in ME3...Shepard sees Ashley again...for the first time since what happened on Horizon...
...and then he sees her almost die right in front of him. So all the feelings come back just like that.
It just makes sense that Shepard would be with someone else in ME2...and then Shepard getting back with Ashley just fits so well with the storyline of ME3.
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Опубликовано 07 Апрель 2013 - 04:50
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CDR David Shepard wrote...
Gkonone wrote...
Aw, never did that, romancing another in ME2 I meant. How does it change it?CDR David Shepard wrote...
Just started a new playthrough myself.
I always romance Ashley.
It's a shame that she doesn't get much time in ME2...and during the middle part of ME3.
However, i think the beginning of ME3 was great for her romance. Especially if you romance someone else in ME2.
I did see a video on youtube of someone doing that and you have a bit of a discussion in ME3, Ashley not liking it and all. Not sure if you meant that.
I actually liked that option, it's not there if you stayed loyal I think. It feels right to argue a bit, it's been 2 years and all.
I think it is perfect for storyline purpose.
In ME2...it makes sense...storywise...that after what happened on Horizon...that Shepard would go to someone else.
Then in ME3...Shepard sees Ashley again...for the first time since what happened on Horizon...
...and then he sees her almost die right in front of him. So all the feelings come back just like that.
It just makes sense that Shepard would be with someone else in ME2...and then Shepard getting back with Ashley just fits so well with the storyline of ME3.
Agreed, Shep/Ash getting back together in ME3 just fits very well to me. Shep seeing Ash almost die kind of brings everything full circle, and they have so much history together.
As bad as it sounds, if Bioware actually had it written where Ash did die on Mars, I probably would have stopped the game right there and not touched it again.
Сообщение изменено: mtmercydave09, 07 Апрель 2013 - 05:05 .
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Опубликовано 07 Апрель 2013 - 10:51
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Nice, just joined it. Would be great to see a mod like that.Saito404 wrote...
I'm working on email mod.Gkonone wrote...
At least the emails might be possible to do in a mod perhaps?
http://social.biowar...sion/27425/&p=1
Actually, we have an active Ashley group
http://social.bioware.com/group/7931/
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Опубликовано 08 Апрель 2013 - 08:40
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mtmercydave09 wrote...
Agreed, that was great. I'll miss Ashley a lot too.
Glad to see that this thread is still around. I've never romanced anyone other than Ashley. Why? Because the way I see it, Ash is perfect for Shep, seeing as how they are both military. Shep/Ash are both hot headed, stubborn, and it makes their relationship that much more passionate with the ups and downs.
Just wish Bioware didn't screw up by leaving out Ash most of ME2 and then waiting until after Rannoch before Shep could even seal the deal with her in ME3. By the time you get to Rannoch you're like 3/4 done with the game.
That being said, still worth it for my male Shep to be with Ash.
It's nice to see that there's still some decent people here on the BSN who can appreciate Ash and what she's all about.Ash will always be worth it.
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Опубликовано 08 Апрель 2013 - 08:56
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XxShadow82xX wrote...
mtmercydave09 wrote...
Agreed, that was great. I'll miss Ashley a lot too.
Glad to see that this thread is still around. I've never romanced anyone other than Ashley. Why? Because the way I see it, Ash is perfect for Shep, seeing as how they are both military. Shep/Ash are both hot headed, stubborn, and it makes their relationship that much more passionate with the ups and downs.
Just wish Bioware didn't screw up by leaving out Ash most of ME2 and then waiting until after Rannoch before Shep could even seal the deal with her in ME3. By the time you get to Rannoch you're like 3/4 done with the game.
That being said, still worth it for my male Shep to be with Ash.
It's nice to see that there's still some decent people here on the BSN who can appreciate Ash and what she's all about.Ash will always be worth it.
Agreed she is definitely worth it, no matter how much Bioware tried to screw her up in ME3
#14011
Опубликовано 16 Апрель 2013 - 08:55
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Only because I almost forgot Sorry for being late Ashley
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Опубликовано 16 Апрель 2013 - 09:06
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I totally forgot.. sh!t. Ekhm, ekhm. Happy Birthday Ashley Madeline Williams! 
*Takes a shot* Cheers!
*Takes a shot* Cheers!
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Опубликовано 16 Апрель 2013 - 11:10
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Happy belated Birthday Ashley Williams. It would be nice to see you again in another ME game.
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Well..little bit late..but happy birthday... Ashley Madeline Williams
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Опубликовано 01 Май 2013 - 12:37
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I posted this in a different thread were most people were ferociously critizicing both Ashley and Alenko as characters, but since I thought it could help to understand Ashley's attitudes in ME 2 and 3, I´ll post it here. NO SPOILERS ON ME 3, I didn't include specifics on ME 3, but if you played through the 3 games and romanced her and picked her for the squad often, you'll probably agree with some or many of these thoughts.
First off, it´s a shame Ash doesn't get much real dialogue in ME 3 (where you actualyl pick topics and lead a conversation). Regarding this, the sooner you get either Ashley or Kaidan in ME 3, the more comments they'll make about the missions you finish and the progress in the main plot. The same if you use them for missions. Without spoilers, Ash & Kaidan talk a lot during missions and you end up understanding some things better IF you include them in key plot moments (which is, of course, a player's choice, it is up to you).
I, for one, liked these two characters. I think they were not given enough dialogue options in ME 3. In ME 1, Ashley was written by Chris L'Étoile, who also wrote Legion and Thane for ME 2 (some of the best, deepest characters in the franchise). Unfortunately, he left Bioware in 2009. He did an excellent work with these 3 characters, whoever wrote Legion and Thane for ME 3, just had to continue with the great foundational work and involve them in the galaxy-wide conflict.
With Kaidan Alenko or Ashley Williams, the writing was going to be trickier. First off, they were loyal to Shepard, to the core, in ME 1 (whether you were malShep or fem Shep). But they were military, like you. They can't just accept you are seemingly working for Cerberus. They both admit to "not wanting to believe the rumors". (direct quote from ME2)
Without an insight into what Shepard is doing in ME 2, they don't really know who you are anymore. Even Anderson, the paternal figure and one of Shepard's major supporters, doesn't really understand at first what is Shepard doing with Cerberus. There may be even rumors that you never died, that you simply defected. He admits to have been withholding information from you, the very first time you talk to Anderson in the Citadel.
If you stop to think about it, they don't know the details about the Lazarus Project or the Collectors' raids, TIM has probably been leaking misinformation all along (and that may include false info that you have fully embraced Cerberus ideals). The fact that all "Cerberus" personnel on board the SR-2 seem friendly should not overshadow the fact that it is a terrorist organization without scruples(Akuze? Kahoku? Jack and other biotic children kidnappings? Their bioweapons experiments with Rachni? Project Overlord? Trying and botching a secret operation to take control of a derelict Reaper?).
TIM manages to fool Shepard and his team several times in ME2, who is to say he does not fool the Alliance Intelligence into thinking of you as a turncoat?
The encounter on Horizon and the email from the Virmire survivor in ME 2 are very revealing of this. It would make sense, as fellow Alliance officers, they'd mistrust you until you fully prove your true allegiance, in other words, until you disprove all the propaganda and misinformation about you TIM may have spread while you were the C.O. on board one of their ships. Being given command of a Cerberus ship would definitely stir up suspicions among those who worked with you. If Ashley had joined you in ME 2, he would have become a defector. Which is one of the accusations that got Shepard in trouble between ME 2 / ME3
I agree, the writing and dialogue for both characters in ME 2 and ME 3 could have been much better, but story-wise it makes sense you have to regain their trust. It may come across as just being ****y, but in the 3-game story arc it makes sense. Even Tali has misgivings about joining you in ME2. In fact, she doesn't right away, as you remember. And even Liara, who had a critical role in the events leading up to Project Lazarus success does not join your mission in ME 2 either, in part because of your unwilling ties with Cerberus.
To use this as ammunition against Ashley or Kaidan, in the context of the trilogy, is unfair.
First off, it´s a shame Ash doesn't get much real dialogue in ME 3 (where you actualyl pick topics and lead a conversation). Regarding this, the sooner you get either Ashley or Kaidan in ME 3, the more comments they'll make about the missions you finish and the progress in the main plot. The same if you use them for missions. Without spoilers, Ash & Kaidan talk a lot during missions and you end up understanding some things better IF you include them in key plot moments (which is, of course, a player's choice, it is up to you).
I, for one, liked these two characters. I think they were not given enough dialogue options in ME 3. In ME 1, Ashley was written by Chris L'Étoile, who also wrote Legion and Thane for ME 2 (some of the best, deepest characters in the franchise). Unfortunately, he left Bioware in 2009. He did an excellent work with these 3 characters, whoever wrote Legion and Thane for ME 3, just had to continue with the great foundational work and involve them in the galaxy-wide conflict.
With Kaidan Alenko or Ashley Williams, the writing was going to be trickier. First off, they were loyal to Shepard, to the core, in ME 1 (whether you were malShep or fem Shep). But they were military, like you. They can't just accept you are seemingly working for Cerberus. They both admit to "not wanting to believe the rumors". (direct quote from ME2)
Without an insight into what Shepard is doing in ME 2, they don't really know who you are anymore. Even Anderson, the paternal figure and one of Shepard's major supporters, doesn't really understand at first what is Shepard doing with Cerberus. There may be even rumors that you never died, that you simply defected. He admits to have been withholding information from you, the very first time you talk to Anderson in the Citadel.
If you stop to think about it, they don't know the details about the Lazarus Project or the Collectors' raids, TIM has probably been leaking misinformation all along (and that may include false info that you have fully embraced Cerberus ideals). The fact that all "Cerberus" personnel on board the SR-2 seem friendly should not overshadow the fact that it is a terrorist organization without scruples(Akuze? Kahoku? Jack and other biotic children kidnappings? Their bioweapons experiments with Rachni? Project Overlord? Trying and botching a secret operation to take control of a derelict Reaper?).
TIM manages to fool Shepard and his team several times in ME2, who is to say he does not fool the Alliance Intelligence into thinking of you as a turncoat?
The encounter on Horizon and the email from the Virmire survivor in ME 2 are very revealing of this. It would make sense, as fellow Alliance officers, they'd mistrust you until you fully prove your true allegiance, in other words, until you disprove all the propaganda and misinformation about you TIM may have spread while you were the C.O. on board one of their ships. Being given command of a Cerberus ship would definitely stir up suspicions among those who worked with you. If Ashley had joined you in ME 2, he would have become a defector. Which is one of the accusations that got Shepard in trouble between ME 2 / ME3
I agree, the writing and dialogue for both characters in ME 2 and ME 3 could have been much better, but story-wise it makes sense you have to regain their trust. It may come across as just being ****y, but in the 3-game story arc it makes sense. Even Tali has misgivings about joining you in ME2. In fact, she doesn't right away, as you remember. And even Liara, who had a critical role in the events leading up to Project Lazarus success does not join your mission in ME 2 either, in part because of your unwilling ties with Cerberus.
To use this as ammunition against Ashley or Kaidan, in the context of the trilogy, is unfair.
Сообщение изменено: pablodomi, 01 Май 2013 - 01:12 .
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Опубликовано 22 Май 2013 - 01:21
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Hey all just wanted to stop by and say I started playing ME3 yesterday and thought I share a two pics I grabbed...enjoy.
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Опубликовано 25 Май 2013 - 08:27
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Hi all,
back with a few images of Ash from her classical days. Enjoy.
Bracing herself before engaging enemy.
Taking down the one at left.
Doing her thing.
Finding target.
Providing relief in the knick of time.
Not letting that thing go.
(For best impression, enlarge to full size by right-clicking on pic, select "View image" and then click on it once more)
back with a few images of Ash from her classical days. Enjoy.
Bracing herself before engaging enemy.
Taking down the one at left.
Doing her thing.
Finding target.
Providing relief in the knick of time.
Not letting that thing go.
(For best impression, enlarge to full size by right-clicking on pic, select "View image" and then click on it once more)
Сообщение изменено: Domar, 25 Май 2013 - 08:41 .
#14018
Опубликовано 10 Июль 2013 - 07:36
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Is there other Ashley Williams group? I wanna join.
#14019
Опубликовано 23 Июль 2013 - 04:15
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i would join an ashley group too but its so dated...no thread pages, must scroll through hundreds of pages to get to the end unlike the normal forum...theres more but its so irritatingly out dated i just dont use it
#14020
Опубликовано 05 Февраль 2014 - 03:11
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Hey! longtime mass effect fan and Ashley LI supporter, I'm pretty new to this website and its good to see alot of support for a character who gets alot of unfair hate
#14022
Опубликовано 10 Июль 2014 - 11:29
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Bring this thread out of mothballs!
Another Shepley video made by Genol3oost!
http://www.youtube.c...35A3EF4F286EC02
#14023
Опубликовано Вчера, 10:23
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One last post.
Goodbye 1.1.
This thread is where it all started for me on the BSN.
I made many friends here. Good times.
Goodbye 1.1.
This thread is where it all started for me on the BSN.
I made many friends here. Good times.
