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[Onyx Jaguar]

SilverRose208 wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

i think she has come too associate two poems with shep,im not much for poetry so forgive me if i dont know there names but i belive she reads "Oh captain my captain." and the one that she says too you in ME1 and in her letter in ME2 "Death closes all: but something ere the end
Some work of noble note, may yet be done,
Not unbecoming men that strove with Gods." i think those are the two exclusives she reads just for shep.

EDIT:however im not sure if the latter is the same one she reads too her dad,if it is i think they both share it as one she read over there graves.

Yes, that is Ulysses, the Ashley's Dad poem. Don't know which poem the other is from, but I suspect someone here might.

Dost thou refer to the line O Captain, My Captain?  That would be Walt Whitman's "O Captain! My Captain!"   It was written for Abe Lincoln - composed after his death and the end of the American Civil War.  It certainly does mention the whole "dead" thing quite a bit, but it's more of a tribute to his works than his life - not sure if that's what Ash would focus on. 

The full text below:

O Captain my Captain! our fearful trip is done,
The ship has weathered every rack, the prize we sought is won,
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring;
But O heart! heart! heart!
O the bleeding drops of red,
Where on the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.

O Captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells;
Rise up--for you the flag is flung for you the bugle trills,
For you bouquets and ribboned wreaths for you the shores a-crowding,
For you they call, the swaying mass, their eager faces turning;
Here Captain! dear father!
This arm beneath your head!
It is some dream that on the deck,
You've fallen cold and dead.

My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still;
My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will;
The ship is anchored safe and sound, its voyage closed and done;
From fearful trip the victor ship comes in with object won;
Exult O shores, and ring O bells!
But I, with mournful tread,
Walk the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.

Personally, given that she's a Tennsyon fangirl, I think she'd go with something more tribute-like - like what Tennyson wrote when facing his own death ( Crossing the Bar) or A Farewell.

This kind of makes me want an ending to ME 3 where Shepard dies and Ashley says a poem at the funeral in honor of them.  It would be a great moment.


Optional of course, well Shepard dying at the end I mean

[Kacynski]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

Kacynski wrote...

Could someon of you nice souls guide me to the place, where I can get the small "Ashley for Squadmember in ME3" pic for my sig? I can't seem to find it ....

This one?

Was another one, but with the hint you gave me, I could finally manage it! Thanks a lot, now I can show proper contribution to Ash ...

[Lord Zeuss]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

This kind of makes me want an ending to ME 3 where Shepard dies and Ashley says a poem at the funeral in honor of them.  It would be a great moment.

Noooooooo! I am against main-character death, even if Ashley reads poetry in their honor!

Besides, what would happen if it were Kaidan instead? Would he say "Shepard made me feel... human," in honor of them, then?

Optional of course, well Shepard dying at the end I mean

If Bioware must...

[MatsudaTohu]

The main Character Can't (officially) DIE!

Modifié par MatsudaTohu, 19 juin 2010 - 01:46 .

[MatsudaTohu]

That would be nice, cause I'm sure that after Mass Effect 3, the story wont be as good, maybe?

[MatsudaTohu]

Meh, Mass Effect is always going to be epic. I'm glad that I got the first one before I played the second. I decided to do that because of the import finished game from the first one stuff.

[Funkcase]

MatsudaTohu wrote...

The main Character Can't (officially) DIE!

Well in Dragon age: origins the main character can, and being a Bioware game it shares alot of similarities with Mass effect. I am thinking one of the endings to ME3 will have Shepard sacrifice himself while there will be a ending to survive or everyone dies (most rpgs have multiple endings, and given all the decision making ME3 will aswel)

[Lord Zeuss]

LiamN7 wrote...

I would like the Ash and Shep living happily ever after option. I am a sucker for romantic fluff. : )

Haha, if that wouldn't totally break Ash's character! Shepard and Ash would have the corniest happily-ever-after ever. Shepard with his silly one-liners and well-intentioned platitudes, Ashley with her irrepressible wit and poetry-quoting ways.

[Errol Dnamyx]

LiamN7 wrote...

I would like the Ash and Shep living happily ever after option. I am a sucker for romantic fluff. : )

That ending would make me shed a big mantear.

[SilverRose208]

Since we're allowed to post about fic in the support thread again (I think we are, right?), I've got some new Shepley up: http://www.fanfictio...ant_Amongst_Men

[SilverRose208]

LiamN7 wrote...

Well I really do want the happily every after option for Shep and Ash in ME3. But lets say in ME3 Shep has to sacrifice himself to save everyone. You know he has to stay to push the button or guide the ship in a kamikaze run. Ash is with him. He tries to tell her to leave, like at the beginning of ME2. Does she listen? Does she leave? I say no way she leaves. I don't think she would listen to that order. She went through Shep dieing once already. I don't see her leaving his side again.

I see three options for this:

1) There are other people to save, and Shep tells her to go help them, or that he needs someone to continue his fight.  I think they'd have a tender moment and she'd go, and they'd do some sort of Spock/Kirk hand thing that would make me bawl for days.

2) She shoves him through the airlock/into escape pod and does it herself because the galaxy needs him more than her.  Same Kirk/Spock hand thing.  Same bawling.

3) She refuses and they both go down the with ship in a (sorry- LOST SPOILERS ALERT) Jin & Sun moment, telling each other how much they love each other, kissing, hand holding, tears, etc.  Still bawling on my part.

Really, there's no scenario that wouldn't result in my bawling if they don't get a big happy or ambigious happy ending.

[Funkcase]

LiamN7 wrote...

Well I really do want the happily every after option for Shep and Ash in ME3. But lets say in ME3 Shep has to sacrifice himself to save everyone. You know he has to stay to push the button or guide the ship in a kamikaze run. Ash is with him. He tries to tell her to leave, like at the beginning of ME2. Does she listen? Does she leave? I say no way she leaves. I don't think she would listen to that order. She went through Shep dieing once already. I don't see her leaving his side again.

I believe if Shepard has to go sacrifice himself she would want to go down with him. Although if Shepard does die and we see a funeral at the end of ME3, Ash will have the best bit to play at the funeral due to her poetry. I hope for multiple endings, happy, corny, sad ect.

[ashlover mark 2]

LiamN7 wrote...

Well I really do want the happily every after option for Shep and Ash in ME3. But lets say in ME3 Shep has to sacrifice himself to save everyone. You know he has to stay to push the button or guide the ship in a kamikaze run. Ash is with him. He tries to tell her to leave, like at the beginning of ME2. Does she listen? Does she leave? I say no way she leaves. I don't think she would listen to that order. She went through Shep dieing once already. I don't see her leaving his side again.

normally id agree with you BUT lets spice things up a bit. lets say during the course of ME3 ash and shep find out that they are expecting kids we know ash would still fight in ME3 regardless of haveing kids in her tummy or not.lets say the end comes and said situation arises.....do you think ashley will choose to be selfish and die with shep OR would she relcutantly evcaute the ship and leave her beloved too die in order for there children too have life.

[Kacynski]

I can quite imagine BioWarre will give us the option of a suicide run ending in ME3. After all, it will be the final chapter, and the hero sacrificing himself for the greater good is allways a good ending. Without having the need to have a Shepard left for import to ME4 this can very well be a canon ending.

I agree with Liam, that Ash would never leave Shepard in that situation as she did it once and I'm sure she regrets it.

But if she's not present at that occassion, I would love to see her reciting a poem at Shepards grave ... now that I'm thinking about it, that would maybe the most epic ending a computer game ever had offered! Phew, getting goosebumps just by thinking about it.

Sure as hell, I would loose a tear or two in front of my computer, but do you think Ash would? After the ceremony, privatly, I think she will be in tears for days, but in public? I can see her keep her emotions closed. What do you think?

[SilverRose208]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

normally id agree with you BUT lets spice things up a bit. lets say during the course of ME3 ash and shep find out that they are expecting kids we know ash would still fight in ME3 regardless of haveing kids in her tummy or not.lets say the end comes and said situation arises.....do you think ashley will choose to be selfish and die with shep OR would she relcutantly evcaute the ship and leave her beloved too die in order for there children too have life.

Oh, I think she'd need some convincing but would go willingly. 

In this scenario, I'd love the ending to be a shot of her with a toddler on her knee, reading BabyShepley Ulysses and saying, "Your daddy loved this poem, and your grandaddy did too ..."