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ashlover mark 2 wrote...

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i never felt guilty about letting Kaidan die...just like many people don't like Jacob....i didn't like Kaidan...barely spoke to him...his VA didn't help...at all


I thought Kaidan was cool, while Ash was his love, Kaidan was his best friend.

kendall just dosnt like him beacuz kaidan is actually carth lol


Lol, funny how Ash and Kaiden where both characters in Kotor, although Kimberly Brooks  was just random npcs and Raphael Sbarge was a main Character.

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KendallX23 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

i never felt guilty about letting Kaidan die...just like many people don't like Jacob....i didn't like Kaidan...barely spoke to him...his VA didn't help...at all


I thought Kaidan was cool, while Ash was his love, Kaidan was his best friend.

kendall just dosnt like him beacuz kaidan is actually carth lol


that is true..i admit it.....but i also didn't like Kaidan as a character....he always made me have headaches..because he had them
        was Ash and Kaidan in a relationship if u don't choose her or him as LI ?


 No.....one of them kinda sacrifice themself on Virmire lol.

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Funkcase wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

i never felt guilty about letting Kaidan die...just like many people don't like Jacob....i didn't like Kaidan...barely spoke to him...his VA didn't help...at all


I thought Kaidan was cool, while Ash was his love, Kaidan was his best friend.

kendall just dosnt like him beacuz kaidan is actually carth lol


that is true..i admit it.....but i also didn't like Kaidan as a character....he always made me have headaches..because he had them
        was Ash and Kaidan in a relationship if u don't choose her or him as LI ?


 No.....one of them kinda sacrifice themself on Virmire lol.


before virmire of course....i remember something with Ash sister..the same as if u were in romance with Ash..or something like this

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KendallX23 wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

KendallX23 wrote...

i never felt guilty about letting Kaidan die...just like many people don't like Jacob....i didn't like Kaidan...barely spoke to him...his VA didn't help...at all


I thought Kaidan was cool, while Ash was his love, Kaidan was his best friend.

kendall just dosnt like him beacuz kaidan is actually carth lol


that is true..i admit it.....but i also didn't like Kaidan as a character....he always made me have headaches..because he had them
        was Ash and Kaidan in a relationship if u don't choose her or him as LI ?


 No.....one of them kinda sacrifice themself on Virmire lol.


before virmire of course....i remember something with Ash sister..the same as if u were in romance with Ash..or something like this


If your FemShep Ashley's youngest sister Sarah says Kaidan is cute, if your maleShep she say Shepard is cute, i dont know if she says Kaidan is if you romance Liara though, never realy thought of it.

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@funk yea if you dont show any intial interst in ash in the beging sarah says that kaidan is cute even if your a male.

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@funk yea if you dont show any intial interst in ash in the beging sarah says that kaidan is cute even if your a male.


Ow what do you know, you learn something new everyday lol.

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i don't remember either....just know when i played as a female Shep....Ashley was my fem shep best friend..:D...

anyway..going to catch some nap

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ashlover mark 2 wrote...

@funk yea if you dont show any intial interst in ash in the beging sarah says that kaidan is cute even if your a male.


While I do believe you, I just don't know how any one couldn't show interest in Ashley. I mean I know it happens but I just don't understand it. Not possible for me to ignore Ash.  Ash is worth it.

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LiamN7 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

@funk yea if you dont show any intial interst in ash in the beging sarah says that kaidan is cute even if your a male.


While I do believe you, I just don't know how any one couldn't show interest in Ashley. I mean I know it happens but I just don't understand it. Not possible for me to ignore Ash.  Ash is worth it.


This!

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well..non military people and people who hate the army might not show interest in Ash

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Woo Chief Williams!

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LiamN7 wrote...

While I do believe you, I just don't know how any one couldn't show interest in Ashley. I mean I know it happens but I just don't understand it. Not possible for me to ignore Ash.  Ash is worth it.


Agreed.  It isn't possible for me to play as FemShep because of the lack of Ash.  Ash is so worth it.

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i played 3 fem Shepard...for ME2 LI...and i had plenty of Ash..just not the romance part

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Woo Chief Williams!


Yes. Yes. I do try to woo Ashley as much as possible. Ash is worth it.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

Woo Chief Williams!

i like this. simple and to the point *nods head in approval*

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LiamN7 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

@funk yea if you dont show any intial interst in ash in the beging sarah says that kaidan is cute even if your a male.


While I do believe you, I just don't know how any one couldn't show interest in Ashley. I mean I know it happens but I just don't understand it. Not possible for me to ignore Ash.  Ash is worth it.

its more like this,if you rag on ash on and after eden prime about the whole dead sqaud thing,and you dont get the tinfoil mini squrit and thigh high boots convo,theres no buliding of the rapport and ash is just a reagular sqaudmate with no romance being activated.

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As dramatic as a "Together in Death" ending is, I want them to be together and alive. They deserve it after everything that happened. And baby Shepleys, you hear me Bioware?!


Aye, heroes should get to enjoy the fruits of their labors every once in a while. (Yes, I do realize how that sounded. It was not entirely unintentional.;))


Yeah, I'm in agreement about this.
That said I still reckon Bioware will have Shepard die, like properly this time, at the end of Mass Effect 3. But still that's just a theory, for all we know it could end more like Lord of the Rings with everyone going thier seperate ways and whoever Shepard romanced (case in point: Ashley) stays with him and they rebuild their lives.
Come to think of it, that would be a pretty good ending.

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LiamN7 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Woo Chief Williams!


Yes. Yes. I do try to woo Ashley as much as possible. Ash is worth it.


Indeed she is.

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Wow, I missed a lot! I have a femshep thta sacrificed Ash, but instantly regretted it because she was her best friend. Kaiden just din't cut it. She did become a soldier for ME2 in Ash's honor though.

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woohoo, one day not on the boards, and 4 pages to work through ... but Ash is worth it :D

As for the endings discussion, I would like to get the possibility of having a "Blaze of Glory" Ending (with Ash reading poems at his tombstone) as well as the "and from then on they lived happily ever after" ending, with Shep and Ash having children and telling them tales of the war against the reapers ... I hope so much, that BW will give us BOTH!

I think it would be cool, if you could get the different endings not by just making one decision, but by making a long line of decisions throughout the whole game. Did anyone of you play the Bladerunner adventure? It was out in the early 90's and you could have 8(something like that) different endings, based on the decisions you made - the first time through I was completely surprised by the ending ^^. Something like that would be cool on a smaller scale - like which members on the crew survive should not be based on only two things (loyalty + one decision), but on three or four decisions which may not be immediatly obvious when you make them ... but that's maybe too much to ask for.

As for Ash being a capable leader, I totally think yes. She would have been my first choice as fire team leader both times in the suicide mission, and I'm sure she would have brought her team through without casualities. She's caring and empathic, but she is also not afraid of making harsh decisions. And she will kick everybody's ass, that's not 100% concentrated on the mission.
Would I see her as a Spectre? Probably no. In my books she's not the kind of person for the Spectre-kind of missions. The whole point of Spectre's is _not_ being in a line of command ... I think Ash needs the military structures and procedures to performe at her best. I imagine she would feel a little bit lost without it - she would still be a good Spectre, just because she is kickass anyways, but I think she would perform much better within a military structure.
Given that, I do think she should be promoted quickly and become a General (yes, General not Admiral, as she's a marine and infantry).

This just gives me an idea for the final battle in ME3: Shepard is commanding the Normandy to go on a "behind the lines - suicide mission" to take out the main reaper base. Anderson is commanding the alliance fleet in an assault on the main reaper force and Ash is commanding an infrantry regiment to attack the reaper's flank (maybe during the reapers direct attack on earth). And with the ideas given above, all three armies (or teams) could make it through alive if you made the right choices, or none of them. We would have 4 endings: The reapers win, or the reapers loose with either one, two or all of the three leaders dieing ...
(on a second thought I see the flaw of this idea, as it would only be working for Ash and Kaidan and not the other LI'S, but this is the Ash thread, so I dare to propose Ash - centered endings :whistle:)

EDIT: and just for the record: Kaidan got a memorial to his honor in each and every of may games ... not becaus I don't like him, but Ash is just pure awesome, I can't leave her behind .. I made up a "background story" in my mind to rectify the decision from a military point of view, which is:
Kaidan is needed to arm the nuke, as the ingam conversation hints, he's better suited for that task. In any case, I think Ash is better suited to go with the Salarians, as their assault is in dire need of a Soldier, that can bear some beating. So, Ash is with the Salarians, and Kaidan is with the nuke, when Shepards got to make the call. At this point his logic goes like: Ok, Kaidan got the nuke armed, it will go off anyway - but if we do not take out that last AA - tower, maybe the normandy will not be able to pick everybody else up. So, it's not a decision between Ash and Kaidan, but between getting everybody out by risking one person or get one person out by riksing everybody ... this way of thinking spares me of guilty feelings because of allways choosing Ash :P

phew, thanks everybody, that dares to read this wall of text!

Modifié par Kacynski, 21 juin 2010 - 04:44 .


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Kacynski wrote...

woohoo, one day not on the boards, and 4 pages to work through ... but Ash is worth it :D

As for the endings discussion, I would like to get the possibility of having a "Blaze of Glory" Ending (with Ash reading poems at his tombstone) as well as the "and from then on they lived happily ever after" ending, with Shep and Ash having children and telling them tales of the war against the reapers ... I hope so much, that BW will give us BOTH!

I think it would be cool, if you could get the different endings not by just making one decision, but by making a long line of decisions throughout the whole game. Did anyone of you play the Bladerunner adventure? It was out in the early 90's and you could have 8(something like that) different endings, based on the decisions you made - the first time through I was completely surprised by the ending ^^. Something like that would be cool on a smaller scale - like which members on the crew survive should not be based on only two things (loyalty + one decision), but on three or four decisions which may not be immediatly obvious when you make them ... but that's maybe too much to ask for.

As for Ash being a capable leader, I totally think yes. She would have been my first choice as fire team leader both times in the suicide mission, and I'm sure she would have brought her team through without casualities. She's caring and empathic, but she is also not afraid of making harsh decisions. And she will kick everybody's ass, that's not 100% concentrated on the mission.
Would I see her as a Spectre? Probably no. In my books she's not the kind of person for the Spectre-kind of missions. The whole point of Spectre's is _not_ being in a line of command ... I think Ash needs the military structures and procedures to performe at her best. I imagine she would feel a little bit lost without it - she would still be a good Spectre, just because she is kickass anyways, but I think she would perform much better within a military structure.
Given that, I do think she should be promoted quickly and become a General (yes, General not Admiral, as she's a marine and infantry).

This just gives me an idea for the final battle in ME3: Shepard is commanding the Normandy to go on a "behind the lines - suicide mission" to take out the main reaper base. Anderson is commanding the alliance fleet in an assault on the main reaper force and Ash is commanding an infrantry regiment to attack the reaper's flank (maybe during the reapers direct attack on earth). And with the ideas given above, all three armies (or teams) could make it through alive if you made the right choices, or none of them. We would have 4 endings: The reapers win, or the reapers loose with either one, two or all of the three leaders dieing ...
(on a second thought I see the flaw of this idea, as it would only be working for Ash and Kaidan and not the other LI'S, but this is the Ash thread, so I dare to propose Ash - centered endings :whistle:)

EDIT: and just for the record: Kaidan got a memorial to his honor in each and every of may games ... not becaus I don't like him, but Ash is just pure awesome, I can't leave her behind .. I made up a "background story" in my mind to rectify the decision from a military point of view, which is:
Kaidan is needed to arm the nuke, as the ingam conversation hints, he's better suited for that task. In any case, I think Ash is better suited to go with the Salarians, as their assault is in dire need of a Soldier, that can bear some beating. So, Ash is with the Salarians, and Kaidan is with the nuke, when Shepards got to make the call. At this point his logic goes like: Ok, Kaidan got the nuke armed, it will go off anyway - but if we do not take out that last AA - tower, maybe the normandy will not be able to pick everybody else up. So, it's not a decision between Ash and Kaidan, but between getting everybody out by risking one person or get one person out by riksing everybody ... this way of thinking spares me of guilty feelings because of allways choosing Ash :P

phew, thanks everybody, that dares to read this wall of text!

This.  9000+ times this. Posted Image

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If Ashley and Shepherd got married would it be Ashley Shepherd or Ashley Williams-Shepherd?

Can someone create a picture of Ashley wearing the now famous  tin foil mini skirt and thigh high boots?

Modifié par Prince of Kemet, 21 juin 2010 - 06:18 .


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Kacynski wrote...

woohoo, one day not on the boards, and 4 pages to work through ... but Ash is worth it :D

As for the endings discussion, I would like to get the possibility of having a "Blaze of Glory" Ending (with Ash reading poems at his tombstone) as well as the "and from then on they lived happily ever after" ending, with Shep and Ash having children and telling them tales of the war against the reapers ... I hope so much, that BW will give us BOTH!

I think it would be cool, if you could get the different endings not by just making one decision, but by making a long line of decisions throughout the whole game. Did anyone of you play the Bladerunner adventure? It was out in the early 90's and you could have 8(something like that) different endings, based on the decisions you made - the first time through I was completely surprised by the ending ^^. Something like that would be cool on a smaller scale - like which members on the crew survive should not be based on only two things (loyalty + one decision), but on three or four decisions which may not be immediatly obvious when you make them ... but that's maybe too much to ask for.

As for Ash being a capable leader, I totally think yes. She would have been my first choice as fire team leader both times in the suicide mission, and I'm sure she would have brought her team through without casualities. She's caring and empathic, but she is also not afraid of making harsh decisions. And she will kick everybody's ass, that's not 100% concentrated on the mission.
Would I see her as a Spectre? Probably no. In my books she's not the kind of person for the Spectre-kind of missions. The whole point of Spectre's is _not_ being in a line of command ... I think Ash needs the military structures and procedures to performe at her best. I imagine she would feel a little bit lost without it - she would still be a good Spectre, just because she is kickass anyways, but I think she would perform much better within a military structure.
Given that, I do think she should be promoted quickly and become a General (yes, General not Admiral, as she's a marine and infantry).

This just gives me an idea for the final battle in ME3: Shepard is commanding the Normandy to go on a "behind the lines - suicide mission" to take out the main reaper base. Anderson is commanding the alliance fleet in an assault on the main reaper force and Ash is commanding an infrantry regiment to attack the reaper's flank (maybe during the reapers direct attack on earth). And with the ideas given above, all three armies (or teams) could make it through alive if you made the right choices, or none of them. We would have 4 endings: The reapers win, or the reapers loose with either one, two or all of the three leaders dieing ...
(on a second thought I see the flaw of this idea, as it would only be working for Ash and Kaidan and not the other LI'S, but this is the Ash thread, so I dare to propose Ash - centered endings :whistle:)

EDIT: and just for the record: Kaidan got a memorial to his honor in each and every of may games ... not becaus I don't like him, but Ash is just pure awesome, I can't leave her behind .. I made up a "background story" in my mind to rectify the decision from a military point of view, which is:
Kaidan is needed to arm the nuke, as the ingam conversation hints, he's better suited for that task. In any case, I think Ash is better suited to go with the Salarians, as their assault is in dire need of a Soldier, that can bear some beating. So, Ash is with the Salarians, and Kaidan is with the nuke, when Shepards got to make the call. At this point his logic goes like: Ok, Kaidan got the nuke armed, it will go off anyway - but if we do not take out that last AA - tower, maybe the normandy will not be able to pick everybody else up. So, it's not a decision between Ash and Kaidan, but between getting everybody out by risking one person or get one person out by riksing everybody ... this way of thinking spares me of guilty feelings because of allways choosing Ash :P

phew, thanks everybody, that dares to read this wall of text!


My god, this is so full of win!!

*ahem*

I mean, good show indeed. I agree with your statements.

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Prince of Kemet wrote...

If Ashley and Shepherd got married would it be Ashley Shepherd or Ashley Williams-Shepherd?

Can someone create a picture of Ashley wearing the now famous  tin foil mini skirt and thigh high boots?


I'd say Ashley Shepard Williams as she seems like the sort to want to continue or at least keep her maidan name.

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neither Ashley nor Williams are her maiden name...maybe Madeline but that is just a midlle name...