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[V-rex]

FireEye wrote...

Popping over from the Kaidan thread, for symmetry.  In case you all don't have these yet:





Carry on. 

Thank you, I think I speak for everyone on this thread when I say that we appreciate support from other threads and cool fan art is always acceptable.

[Dominus5412]

I like those pictures.

[Hepzi3]

Ashley.

[V-rex]

LiamN7 wrote...

SilverRose208 wrote...

@Kacy - So glad you snuck back in here - and with one of your patented thoughtful, awesome, walls of text - no less!

I absolutely agree re: Ash dating somebody. If it were to happen at all, I do not think that it would be even remotely serious, given the depth of emotion that she obviously still feels towards Shep. I can see a situation where her sisters, trying to be helpful, might try to set her up with someone or go on a double-date or something, but I don't think that getting a "boyfriend" is something that she'd do of her own volition at all.

I think it might be possible for Ash to have dated. Don't know that she did. It would have taken a long while I think. The thing that to me that is odd. Shep moving on. For Ash it has been 2 years. Lots of pain, heart ache and hopefully some healing. For shep it has been what a week?  Not sure of the timeline. At least in his mind the normandy getting destroyed didn't happen 2 years ago, it was yesterday. So Ash trying to pick up the peices wouldn't totally surprise me. Shep acting like the relationship with Ash was forever ago is amazing.   Shep " So Ash its been a long time, how ya been? "  long time for Ash but not Shep.

I agree somewhat, in fact (possibly moving a little off topic) another reason I stayed faithful to Ashley was because in the perspective of roleplaying Shepard I just didn't think he was the kind of guy to give up on the woman he loves over the course of a couple of weeks. Especially when she didn't properly move on even after two years of believing he was never coming back, for Shepard to just 'move on' would be a little ridiculous. Especially since in that email she sent, Ashley made it clear she still loved him.

So yeah, add that to the reason why I didn't think it was very 'in character' for Shepard to just go after someone else.

[Hepzi3]

Especially since in that email she sent, Ashley made it clear she still loved him.





This I dont know. I think she made it clear that she was OK if Shep moved on and nothing more.

[V-rex]

Hepzi3 wrote...

Especially since in that email she sent, Ashley made it clear she still loved him.


This I dont know. I think she made it clear that she was OK if Shep moved on and nothing more.

It was that last line I think:

"Just stay alive out there... Skipper. I don't know what the future holds, but I can't lose you a second time."

Sure, there was evidence to suggest that she was unsure of what to expect in the near future but I think it's unmistakeable that she still harbours feelings for him too.

EDIT: So essentially what I got from that was that she is still unsure and confused but still seems to want to be with him again. That things have changed between them but her feelings haven't.

Modifié par V-rex, 03 juillet 2010 - 09:06 .

[Funkcase]

PureMethodActor wrote...

FireEye wrote...

Popping over from the Kaidan thread, for symmetry.  In case you all don't have these yet:





Carry on. 

I like this! Its one of the better short-hair versions of Ash that I've seen. Thanks for the gift for the thread

They are the original concept art of Ash from Bioware. Those pictures are in the ME art book,  Ash was gonna have short hair originally.

I have been looking for these pics online everywhere! Lol. I am glad someone found them and posted them

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Personally I am glad they went with long hair for Ash. Thanks for the pics though.

[Dominus5412]

I'm not. I've got a thing for ladies with short hair.

[V-rex]

I reckon in the long run, given that she was designed to be essentially a military woman, Ashley could have pulled off short hair or long hair in a bun and either way she would have come across as strong which is of course what the design of her character seemed to be principally trying to convey. That said, I probably prefer her as she is now, with the long hair in a bun.

[SilverRose208]

I also like the long hair on her better than the shorter cut. It seems more feminine and in keeping with her character - tough exterior, but ability to "let her hair down" when she chooses to.



Also, thanks for stopping by, FireEye! We always appreciate visits from the gutter - erhm, Kaidan thread!

[trobbins777]

http://img24.imagesh...b6bea3aa573.jpg



just found that in the motivational thread

[Lord Zeuss]

SilverRose208 wrote...

I also like the long hair on her better than the shorter cut. It seems more feminine and in keeping with her character - tough exterior, but ability to "let her hair down" when she chooses to.

Although we have yet to see her let her hair down. *longsuffering sigh*

The shorter hair would have been a putting over her "tough exterior" a bit heavy-handedly, in my opinion. Glad they went for the longer.

[Giggles_Manically]

My very first time in ME2 went badly. I had Ash as a LI but I honestly thought it was over. So I went with Tali had the whole emotional talk in the engine room, then get that email. Dat was a oopsie to say the lest. Went with Tali in the end but have two other saves that will keep her. I wish horizon didnt go so bad. I do not want to be pro-cerberus but every option is that!

[Lord Zeuss]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

My very first time in ME2 went badly. I had Ash as a LI but I honestly thought it was over. So I went with Tali had the whole emotional talk in the engine room, then get that email. Dat was a oopsie to say the lest. Went with Tali in the end but have two other saves that will keep her. I wish horizon didnt go so bad. I do not want to be pro-cerberus but every option is that!

It's confounding!

You know, you just made me think of something, kinda related to a topic we tend to go back to time and time again, but this one's nagging me now. We've covered the subject of Ashley's reaction to an unfaithful Shepard a hundred times over, but what I'm interested in knowing is, considering Ashley's relatively close relationship with Tali (they seemed like good friends in ME1 by squad banter) how would she take knowing that Shepard was unfaithful with one of her close friends (yes, meaning Tali here; as far as I know, neither Miranda nor Jack were close friends of hers).

This isn't some elaborate springboard from which to launch some kind of anti-Tali rant (I like her, I really really do... well, but I did like her better in ME1, but digressing...), but considering that she and Ashley were friends, I can't help but think that this would somehow be "worse" than Shepard cheating with Jack or Miranda. (Not that I think ME3 will draw any kind of distinction depending on who Shepard did the dirty deed with in ME2, I'm thinking RP or metagaming here, not necessarily in-game events.)

[WilliamShatner]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

My very first time in ME2 went badly. I had Ash as a LI but I honestly thought it was over. So I went with Tali had the whole emotional talk in the engine room, then get that email. Dat was a oopsie to say the lest. Went with Tali in the end but have two other saves that will keep her. I wish horizon didnt go so bad. I do not want to be pro-cerberus but every option is that!

It's confounding!

You know, you just made me think of something, kinda related to a topic we tend to go back to time and time again, but this one's nagging me now. We've covered the subject of Ashley's reaction to an unfaithful Shepard a hundred times over, but what I'm interested in knowing is, considering Ashley's relatively close relationship with Tali (they seemed like good friends in ME1 by squad banter) how would she take knowing that Shepard was unfaithful with one of her close friends (yes, meaning Tali here; as far as I know, neither Miranda nor Jack were close friends of hers).

This isn't some elaborate springboard from which to launch some kind of anti-Tali rant (I like her, I really really do... well, but I did like her better in ME1, but digressing...), but considering that she and Ashley were friends, I can't help but think that this would somehow be "worse" than Shepard cheating with Jack or Miranda. (Not that I think ME3 will draw any kind of distinction depending on who Shepard did the dirty deed with in ME2, I'm thinking RP or metagaming here, not necessarily in-game events.)

I imagine Ashley would be insulted if you cheated on her with Miranda and ... ugh, Subject Zero.

She'd probably understand with Tali though.

[SilverRose208]

@PMA - I completely agree with you regarding your thoughts on the Tali relationship - and reading your post has made me wonder some about how things come across from Tali's perspective. I find it to be odd that in the romance dialogue with her there's no mention of the relationship with the ME1 LI (be it Ash or Liara). Presumably, Tali knew what was going on and was friends with both - I think it's a pretty huge oversight that she wouldn't want to confirm that things were over and that Shep had moved on before beginning something with him; or, in some "off camera" moment, it might have made sense for her to maybe reach out to either Ash or Liara themselves. If Ash wasn't over Shepard and Tali found out, I feel like she's the kind of person who would want him to know and would want him to make an informed choice as opposed to some sort of fling in the moment. The whole ME1 LI - Tali - Shepard dynamic leaves me kind of puzzled when you consider it from a character perspective.

[pprrff]

SilverRose208 wrote...

@PMA - I completely agree with you regarding your thoughts on the Tali relationship - and reading your post has made me wonder some about how things come across from Tali's perspective. I find it to be odd that in the romance dialogue with her there's no mention of the relationship with the ME1 LI (be it Ash or Liara). Presumably, Tali knew what was going on and was friends with both - I think it's a pretty huge oversight that she wouldn't want to confirm that things were over and that Shep had moved on before beginning something with him; or, in some "off camera" moment, it might have made sense for her to maybe reach out to either Ash or Liara themselves. If Ash wasn't over Shepard and Tali found out, I feel like she's the kind of person who would want him to know and would want him to make an informed choice as opposed to some sort of fling in the moment. The whole ME1 LI - Tali - Shepard dynamic leaves me kind of puzzled when you consider it from a character perspective.

Which leads me to think that maybe the Tali/Ash/Liara aren't particular good friends, the only common thread between them is Shepard, otherwise they just kinda do their own thing. This explains why everyone just drifted apart after shepard dies, and why Liara went after the body by herself. So in that sense, if Shepard does cheat with Tali, I don't Ash would be more hurt than otherwise.

[Giggles_Manically]

She may also go spaztastic on Shep for it since Tali is an alien and my Shep never really changer her views on Aliens. Also her saying she agreed with Cerberus on Horizon was sad. Whateves my Colonial Sole Survivor has been tramatuzied enough thank you, to bad for Ash. But I have two others in the wings.

[V-rex]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

She may also go spaztastic on Shep for it since Tali is an alien and my Shep never really changer her views on Aliens.

Her views on aliens was never outright xenophobia though. As I've pointed out, she has no problem working with the Salarians on Virmire, dismisses Terra Firma as racists with 'anti-alien paranoia' and in the elevator conversations she still talks to the aliens as you would a normal person. Admittedly it is probably still better to change her worldview at least when it comes to trust issues, I ultimatley don't think she'd be any more bothered by Shepard dating a non human than if it were a human. Possibly a little bit confused but not any more angry.

Also her saying she agreed with Cerberus on Horizon was sad.

I'm sorry but, what? She said very clearly that she hated Cerberus. She flat out says that while she might not be a fan of aliens she would still never join an extremist group like Cerberus. Her stance was always that humanity shouldn't turn down allies from alien forces but that they shouldn't bet everything on them staying as allies. Cerberus meanwhile seems more built around the idea that humans deserve dominance and need to 'show humanities strength'. She most certainly does not agree with Cerberus, whether you change her trust issues or not.

Whateves my Colonial Sole Survivor has been tramatuzied enough thank you, to bad for Ash. But I have two others in the wings.

Not wishing to cause offence but this does smell suspiciously like a trollish comment. I'm just putting it out there as that might not be your intensions but generally folks around here are up for supporting Ashley in Mass Effect, not complaining about her.

EDIT: Sorry, didn't see your above post. Guess you are an Ashley Supporter afterall... sorry about the whole troll accusation thing, I should really learn to pay more attention before I quote someone.

Modifié par V-rex, 04 juillet 2010 - 02:39 .

[V-rex]

trobbins777 wrote...



just found that in the motivational thread

Very cool, I'm liking Shepard as Adrian Brody:O. On behalf of the peeps on this thread, we appreciate the friendly exchange of pictures.

[Nightodie]

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