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[SilverRose208]

I think it's a mix of both. I think she's social in the respect that she likes the hustle and activity of the Wards and Flux, probably has a lot of acquantainces and gets along with others fairly well ... but she also doesn't seem to have a lot of good friends and people that are close to her, except for family. I imagine her being generally good in group settings but awkward and anti-social one-on-one (as you kind of see with Shep once she stops relying on the military rank & behavioral norms).

[ashlover mark 2]

also she has a problem conveying her true feelings with words.that could be considerd a personality disorder,depends on your views however.

[SilverRose208]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

also she has a problem conveying her true feelings with words.that could be considerd a personality disorder,depends on your views however.

Great point.  She's very guarded and cautious around new people - probably stemming from her family's legacy.  I bet that the popular opinion of General Williams certainly didn't help her 'win friends and influence people' both in civilian life & in the military.

[Lord Zeuss]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

also she has a problem conveying her true feelings with words.that could be considerd a personality disorder,depends on your views however.

If that's a personality disorder, then every man, woman, and child on God's green earth has it.

[Lord Zeuss]

LiamN7 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

i agree with liams assesment,but i secretly want her too be anti-social *COUGH*becuz i am *COUGH* i wonder she partys alot.if shes anti-social then most likely she dosnt,and woud feel very uncomfortable around too may ppl in a club.what do you guyz think???

She might like crowds and action.If you remember her reaction to the wards on the citadel. Hopefully I quote it right.
"Forget the presidium this is where the action is". She seems excited. I don't know that crowds bother her. She will tell you what she thinks and can be harsh sometimes. But I look at her this way    she can be friendly, it takes time to be her friend.   If that makes sense.

Liam is right. Ash isn't antisocial, certainly not clinically speaking, but she's not really a socialite either. She's too job-focused to devote a whole lot of time to the ins and outs of social circles, but she could definitely hold her own in one.

[ashlover mark 2]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

also she has a problem conveying her true feelings with words.that could be considerd a personality disorder,depends on your views however.

If that's a personality disorder, then every man, woman, and child on God's green earth has it.

from my experince with ppl i would have too say that this is true  gives meaning too the phrase nobodys perfect.

BUT back too the topic at hand......i dont belive thats shes full fledged A-S but i think she prob lacks in the social skills department example
that terra firma guy "we have a back log a grivenceses that the aliens have ignored starting with shanxi" ash "were you at shanxi???if not then shut your pie hole"!!! as you can see not very tactful....but hey shes still awsome

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 26 mai 2010 - 03:32 .

[Lord Zeuss]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

also she has a problem conveying her true feelings with words.that could be considerd a personality disorder,depends on your views however.

If that's a personality disorder, then every man, woman, and child on God's green earth has it.

from my experince with ppl i would have too say that this is true  gives meaning too the phrase nobodys perfect.

BUT back too the topic at hand......i dont belive thats shes full fledged A-S but i think she prob lacks in the social skills department example
that terra firma guy "we have a back log a grivenceses that the aliens have ignored starting with shanxi" ash "were you at shanxi???if not then shut your pie hole"!!! as you can see not very tactful....but hey shes still awsome

I think that Terra Firma guy needed it.

I'm not sure about that as evidence of improperly developed social skills, though, as that is about the touchiest subject in the Williams family book, social skills or no I think Mr. Saracino would've gotten what was coming to him.

But your conjecture does put an interesting spin on Ashley's elevator dialogue with the other squadmates. Perhaps this can be seen as Ashley trying various social skills she feels aren't fully-developed or inadequate in some way. That would be the Williams thing to do even if she was a perfect socialite; "A Williams has to be better than the best, if only to avoid suspicion." I've a feeling she applies that axiom to a lot of things in her life.

[ashlover mark 2]

LiamN7 wrote...

Ash telling people off is one of the things I like about her.
Where was the smack up along side the head interrupt for Udina and the terra firma guy? I guess that is why we have Ash.

dont get me wrong i love ash telling ppl off as well....when they deserve it.but the terra firma guy wasnt really a jerk or anything,he was just voiceing his oppion in a respectful manner.ash going off just made her look too emtionaly unstable.now if he was like " we cant have cowards like that genarale williams running thing in our govermnet blah blah blah rasicts remark" then i would love too see ash set him straight.

[SilverRose208]

I guess her main problem is with thinking before she speaks. It leads to some great moments (i.e. the tinfoil miniskirt comment), but I think it also leads to her jumping down the throat of the Terra Firma guy.

[Lord Zeuss]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

Ash telling people off is one of the things I like about her.
Where was the smack up along side the head interrupt for Udina and the terra firma guy? I guess that is why we have Ash.

dont get me wrong i love ash telling ppl off as well....when they deserve it.but the terra firma guy wasnt really a jerk or anything,he was just voiceing his oppion in a respectful manner.ash going off just made her look too emtionaly unstable.now if he was like " we cant have cowards like that genarale williams running thing in our govermnet blah blah blah rasicts remark" then i would love too see ash set him straight.

He was voicing his opinion, yes, but I didn't get the 'respectful' part from him. He glossed over the whole thing as if it were just politics. As someone with a personal stake in what actually happened on Shanxi, Ashley had a right to call him on his insensitivity.

[Lord Zeuss]

Can you even afford to be antisocial if you're in the military? Forgive me if that's a dumb question.

[ashlover mark 2]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

Ash telling people off is one of the things I like about her.
Where was the smack up along side the head interrupt for Udina and the terra firma guy? I guess that is why we have Ash.

dont get me wrong i love ash telling ppl off as well....when they deserve it.but the terra firma guy wasnt really a jerk or anything,he was just voiceing his oppion in a respectful manner.ash going off just made her look too emtionaly unstable.now if he was like " we cant have cowards like that genarale williams running thing in our govermnet blah blah blah rasicts remark" then i would love too see ash set him straight.

He was voicing his opinion, yes, but I didn't get the 'respectful' part from him. He glossed over the whole thing as if it were just politics. As someone with a personal stake in what actually happened on Shanxi, Ashley had a right to call him on his insensitivity.

true,but im not saying he was the most respectful person too comment on the issue. he was not really rude or disrepectful either. at least not too me anyway.i gues you could say her outburst/telling him off is justified,but she needs better control over emotions they tend too get the better of her from time too time.

[Lord Zeuss]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

Ash telling people off is one of the things I like about her.
Where was the smack up along side the head interrupt for Udina and the terra firma guy? I guess that is why we have Ash.

dont get me wrong i love ash telling ppl off as well....when they deserve it.but the terra firma guy wasnt really a jerk or anything,he was just voiceing his oppion in a respectful manner.ash going off just made her look too emtionaly unstable.now if he was like " we cant have cowards like that genarale williams running thing in our govermnet blah blah blah rasicts remark" then i would love too see ash set him straight.

He was voicing his opinion, yes, but I didn't get the 'respectful' part from him. He glossed over the whole thing as if it were just politics. As someone with a personal stake in what actually happened on Shanxi, Ashley had a right to call him on his insensitivity.

true,but im not saying he was the most respectful person too comment on the issue. he was not really rude or disrepectful either. at least not too me anyway.i gues you could say her outburst/telling him off is justified,but she needs better control over emotions they tend too get the better of her from time too time.

Does Ashley have faults? Absolutely. She's real that way.:happy:

[ashlover mark 2]

LiamN7 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

Ash telling people off is one of the things I like about her.
Where was the smack up along side the head interrupt for Udina and the terra firma guy? I guess that is why we have Ash.

dont get me wrong i love ash telling ppl off as well....when they deserve it.but the terra firma guy wasnt really a jerk or anything,he was just voiceing his oppion in a respectful manner.ash going off just made her look too emtionaly unstable.now if he was like " we cant have cowards like that genarale williams running thing in our govermnet blah blah blah rasicts remark" then i would love too see ash set him straight.

Not arguing, just a thought.  People can be jerks and sound real sweet and nice. I do it. Ash wouldn't find anyone useing something that seems as painful to her family as Shanxi to help their politically agenda as respectful. If he had said anything bad about her grandfather directly I don't know that Shep could have pulled her off him. Just my thoughts.

of course not liam were not arguing,we are having a respectful debate

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 26 mai 2010 - 03:58 .

[ashlover mark 2]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

Ash telling people off is one of the things I like about her.
Where was the smack up along side the head interrupt for Udina and the terra firma guy? I guess that is why we have Ash.

dont get me wrong i love ash telling ppl off as well....when they deserve it.but the terra firma guy wasnt really a jerk or anything,he was just voiceing his oppion in a respectful manner.ash going off just made her look too emtionaly unstable.now if he was like " we cant have cowards like that genarale williams running thing in our govermnet blah blah blah rasicts remark" then i would love too see ash set him straight.

He was voicing his opinion, yes, but I didn't get the 'respectful' part from him. He glossed over the whole thing as if it were just politics. As someone with a personal stake in what actually happened on Shanxi, Ashley had a right to call him on his insensitivity.

true,but im not saying he was the most respectful person too comment on the issue. he was not really rude or disrepectful either. at least not too me anyway.i gues you could say her outburst/telling him off is justified,but she needs better control over emotions they tend too get the better of her from time too time.

Does Ashley have faults? Absolutely. She's real that way.:happy:

hey id be the first too agree with you zeuss.but her storng attitude tend too rub ppl the wrong way and as a result ashleys charecter suffers from idotic haters who dont care too analiys her as we do,as we all know

[Lord Zeuss]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

Does Ashley have faults? Absolutely. She's real that way.:happy:

hey id be the first too agree with you zeuss.but her storng attitude tend too rub ppl the wrong way and as a result ashleys charecter suffers from idotic haters who dont care too analyse her as we do,as we all know

If they hate, let em hate. We can laugh at them while they fangirl over Jack (no offense to pyro). *moves that thought to off-topic thread*

[KendallX23]

what u got agains Jack Zeuss..u have something against a char make it against Liara...:D///

Anyway...in this era of gaming..every character is made more realistic so of course the char will have faults...my problem with Ashley is that she is to mistrustful with aliens(i understand her but still) and too military like

[ashlover mark 2]

Lord Zeuss wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

Does Ashley have faults? Absolutely. She's real that way.:happy:

hey id be the first too agree with you zeuss.but her storng attitude tend too rub ppl the wrong way and as a result ashleys charecter suffers from idotic haters who dont care too analyse her as we do,as we all know

If they hate, let em hate. We can laugh at them while they fangirl over Jack (no offense to pyro). *moves that thought to off-topic thread*

again i agree its just that ashley couldve been a fan fav like tali and garrus (sigh )but i guess it was not meant too be.anyway back on topic so atleast we all agree that ashley may not be anti-soacil,but she dose however lack soacil skills outside of her work enviroment.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 26 mai 2010 - 04:11 .

[Lord Zeuss]

KendallX23 wrote...

what u got agains Jack Zeuss..u have something against a char make it against Liara...:D///
Anyway...in this era of gaming..every character is made more realistic so of course the char will have faults...my problem with Ashley is that she is to mistrustful with aliens(i understand her but still) and too military like

I was just using Jack for comparative purposes; that is, her similarity to Ashley in terms of having strong attitudes.