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[VandalX187]

do the words "political sh!tstorm" mean anything to you

[Massadonious1]

Ambassador Udina: The Turian Hirearchy calls him a diplomatic incident waiting to happen.

[Massadonious1]

Better "man" is a stretch. Better politician would probably be more appropriate.

[Collider]

I like both Udina and Anderson. I both want them to kick ass in ME3. Udina needs it more badly because at the moment he's very overshadowed by Anderson in the success department.

[Onyx Jaguar]

[Nightwriter]

Shandepared wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

Better "man" is a stretch. Better politician would probably be more appropriate.

Nope, he's a better man by any definition. Anderson is nice but his faith in Shepard is actually a fault. He trusts the Commander for no apparent reason other than respect. Considering his position this is not a desirable character trait.

Anderson was right for the wrong reasons.

Udina was wrong for the right reasons.

Not to mention Anderson uses his power to pull favors for his friends, something that I find troubling in a politician.  Udina shows no such favoritism.

Really, Shand? Are we going to have this discussion again?

Sigh. Just let me go get my armor and javelin...

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Shandepared wrote...

Collider wrote...

I like both Udina and Anderson. I both want them to kick ass in ME3. Udina needs it more badly because at the moment he's very overshadowed by Anderson in the success department.

He already sent a stealth frigate filled with N7 marines to destroy a batarian factory supplying parts for that suspicious orbital mirror system they're building.

of all the news annoucements in the game, this is my favorite.

Why?

because it's shows Udina and the alliance isn't so incompetent after all.

[Collider]

Udina delivered his speech at the end of the game better than Anderson did.

[Collider]

Shandepared wrote...

Collider wrote...

I like both Udina and Anderson. I both want them to kick ass in ME3. Udina needs it more badly because at the moment he's very overshadowed by Anderson in the success department.

He already sent a stealth frigate filled with N7 marines to destroy a batarian factory supplying parts for that suspicious orbital mirror system they're building.

? Where did you hear this?

[Massadonious1]

A politician (at least modern day ones) are elected to serve the will of the people. The only person he serves is himself. Anything he does and says is to further his own influence. His contempt at serving as Anderson's "advisor" makes this very apparent.

And, "suspicious" is very vague. It could of been some extranet satellite dish to pick up Batarian porn channels. Sounds like he played on people's fears given the Batarian's history.

Modifié par Massadonious1, 26 mai 2010 - 09:44 .

[Nightwriter]

Yes, Udina is a brilliant politician, a superb servant of humanity, he did his job so well that time he nearly got the whole galaxy killed because he's such a freaking political genius.

[Collider]

Nightwriter wrote...

Yes, Udina is a brilliant politician, a superb servant of humanity, he did his job so well that time he nearly got the whole galaxy killed because he's such a freaking political genius.

Which is why we need to see Udina be more successful in ME3. I don't want the end game choice of ME1 being vote for Mr. Awesome (Anderson) or Mr. Can't quite get it right (Udina).

[applehug]

LuckyIronAxe wrote...

Collider wrote...

Udina delivered his speech at the end of the game better than Anderson did.

Oh hell yes he did! I love Udina speeches sooooo much!

It takes a smart man to destroy the entire galaxy.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Nightwriter wrote...

Yes, Udina is a brilliant politician, a superb servant of humanity, he did his job so well that time he nearly got the whole galaxy killed because he's such a freaking political genius.

Well lets see

A) You had no evidence against the Reaper threat, only an omni tool that mentions their name
you had crippled Saren's operations by taking out the base
C)  It was the Council's decision, as Ambassador Udina really didn't have much sway, sure it was in his best interests to side with them, but he would have gained nothing for siding with Shepard in that moment because he would be unable to sway them
D)  The relay was in the Terminus and could have created tension
E)  You detinated a nuke on Virmire


Also Anderson really only helps you at the end of ME 1, he does nothing for you in ME 2 (Udina doesn't either) while it was ultimately Udina, Anderson and Hacket you got you to Spectre status. 

[Collider]

I want Hackett back in ME3.

[Nightwriter]

LuckyIronAxe wrote...

Tell me about it, so Shepard shows up telling Udina and the council that a race of machines as old as time itself makes a habit to swoop into our galaxy every fifty thousand years or so and wipes out all sentient life for no apparent reason. Udina believes that Shepard took one to many bullets to the face and tries to get Shepard off the stand before he can embarrass humanity even more than he already done. Then Anderson comes along and punches Udina in the face, unlocks Shepard's ship and watches as he flies off, with no better reason than he trusts Shepard. What if Shepard was mentally damaged from all those Asari mind melds Anderson huh? Is it too hard to believe that the Commander has gone completely crazy, and if he had, What then? You just let him fly away in the Alliance's most advanced warship, good luck finding it!

Bah. Anderson trusts Shepard for a lot of reasons.

Firstly, he was much more involved with the whole threat than Udina was. Udina heard everything secondhand, and secondhand information lends itself to doubt. But Anderson was at Eden Prime, he saw Sovereign come down on video, he watched when Shepard's unconscious body was brought back, heard Shepard's visions for the first time. He had a courtside seat, from the beginning. Not to mention he has experience with Saren, which is where it all began.

Secondly, you'll notice Shepard's claims don't clash with Anderson's personal career goals as much as they do Udina's. Udina doesn't want to think about Reapers, he's got no time for that, he has political status to achieve.

Thirdly, you can no more fault Anderson for believing in the Reapers right away than you can Shepard. And you'll notice Anderson doesn't believe right away. He's actually quite pragmatic. "Focus on the Conduit, Shepard - if the Reapers do exist, that will stop them."