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[FuturePasTimeCE]

Ecael wrote...

Looks like my dialogue above is close to the truth:

http://social.biowar...66&lf=8#2731895
http://social.biowar...ex/2746668&lf=8

right.  and the extra "internship" position available at BioWare.

[Pacifien]

Ecael wrote...
The description below the link to the forum has always been this, however:

Share your stories, artwork, music, web sites or other creative works
inspired by Mass Effect 1 & 2. Discuss your favorite characters from
the Mass Effect games. Game registration is required to post in this
forum, but all visitors may read.

No it wasn't. "Discuss your favorite characters from the Mass Effect games" was also added yesterday. So from that original description, character support threads were still not intended to go in this forum, but fan's creative works were.

[Ecael]

Pacifien wrote...

Ecael wrote...
The description below the link to the forum has always been this, however:

Share your stories, artwork, music, web sites or other creative works
inspired by Mass Effect 1 & 2. Discuss your favorite characters from
the Mass Effect games. Game registration is required to post in this
forum, but all visitors may read.

No it wasn't. "Discuss your favorite characters from the Mass Effect games" was also added yesterday. So from that original description, character support threads were still not intended to go in this forum, but fan's creative works were.

This is a 2 month old picture I posted on another thread:



The "share your stories, artwork, music, web sites or other creative works" line was always there. The characters are relevant to that.

[jwalker]

OniGanon wrote...

More logically it should be...

ME News

ME General Discussion (no spoilers)
-ME Fan Works (spoiler warning)

ME Story Discussion (spoiler warning)
-ME Character Discussion (spoilers allowed)

ME Gameplay Discussion (spoiler warning)
-ME1 Build and Mission Guides (spoilers allowed)
-ME2 Build and Mission Guides (spoilers allowed)

ME Technical Support PC (spoiler warning)

ME Technical Support 360 (spoiler warning)

This.

[Ecael]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
right.  and the extra "internship" position available at BioWare.

I edited that post since Chris responded to the other thread fairly quickly.

[Pacifien]

Ecael wrote...
The "share your stories, artwork, music, web sites or other creative works" line was always there. The characters are relevant to that.

Yes, I know that line was always there. Characters are relevant to creative works in that creative works are likely to include the characters. Discussion of the characters is another matter.

[OniGanon]

Ecael wrote...
subtitles!

Win. That is all.

[Privateerkev]

I'm still too busy laughing at Chris's "serious discussion" claim...



Amidst the sea of spam, there is far more "serious discussion" in the character threads than most of the threads I see pop up in the Storyline forum. Of the 18 non-stickied threads on page one, I'd call a couple "serious." Some are certainly funny. But not very serious...

[Pacifien]

Given that some of those serious discussions in the character threads carry a scope larger than the subject of the thread, encouraging such discussion to be given its own topic in the storyline forum would certainly help promote more serious discussion to a larger fanbase beyond those reading just one character thread. But a lot of posters in character threads simply don't want to venture out of their comfort zone.

[Privateerkev]

Pacifien wrote...

Given that some of those serious discussions in the character threads carry a scope larger than the subject of the thread, encouraging such discussion to be given its own topic in the storyline forum would certainly help promote more serious discussion to a larger fanbase beyond those reading just one character thread. But a lot of posters in character threads simply don't want to venture out of their comfort zone.

True.

Partly it is the community that is fostered by having a shared interest. People get comfortable talking to the same group of people.

But I think everyone should venture out more. I've loved exploring the other threads.

[Ecael]

Privateerkev wrote...

I'm still too busy laughing at Chris's "serious discussion" claim...

Amidst the sea of spam, there is far more "serious discussion" in the character threads than most of the threads I see pop up in the Storyline forum. Of the 18 non-stickied threads on page one, I'd call a couple "serious." Some are certainly funny. But not very serious...

So you're saying that Chris... dismissed your claim?



He was talking about the threads that end up going off-topic.

[Privateerkev]

Ecael wrote...

Privateerkev wrote...

I'm still too busy laughing at Chris's "serious discussion" claim...

Amidst the sea of spam, there is far more "serious discussion" in the character threads than most of the threads I see pop up in the Storyline forum. Of the 18 non-stickied threads on page one, I'd call a couple "serious." Some are certainly funny. But not very serious...

So you're saying that Chris... dismissed your claim?



He was talking about the threads that end up going off-topic.

Which claim of mine did he dismiss?
I thought I was dismissing his claim...

Maybe we were dismissing each other. Sounds like a bad romance movie...

"Dismiss This... a tale of love, betrayal, and downright apathy"

He was talking about all character threads. As if the character threads are the reason the forum isn't "serious" enough. Like we were the one thing holding the forum back from being truly serious.

[Lucazius]

I hope they make a subforum for character threads... Well, I love Tali too, but It's really lame to come to this forum looking for some gameplay discussions only to be overwhelmed by a Migrant Fleet of ERPers, lol.

[jwalker]

Lucazius wrote...

ERPers.

What's that?

[Id of Ith]

Yeah, I'm going to have to concur that this merger is pretty lame. It is going to be much harder to wade through all the junk that got moved here to discuss gameplay strategy, especially with how frequently each one of those separate threads is bumped (half the time with completely off-topic conversation). I'm not going to claim I understand the fascination with those threads - and I do respect the folks that enjoy them, this is a forum after all - but there is a good reason most other forums separate gameplay discussion from story and plot discussion.



Unlike the folks that use those discussion threads, the gameplay and strategy discussion is not confined to any single thread. It is more about discussing new ideas, or answering individual questions folks have. That task just became significantly more difficult because there are probably 25 or more separate threads dedicated to specific characters and such that are all bumped very frequently, burying any new topics regarding gameplay questions or character build discussion.



I hope they reconsider this because a lot of us have no interest in the fan appreciation threads, and those of us looking to discuss the topics that this forum was previously dedicated to are going to have to look 3+ pages back just to find new topics that are less than a single day old because of how frequently those fan threads move.



Truth be told, I don't see how this change benefits the forum structure for any of us.

[Ecael]

http://social.biowar...index/2302078/1

(I used the titles from the squad pages, but only 5-6 of them have actual titles...)

Welcome to the ME Characters Forum!
Created 1 day ago by Chris Priestly




Ashley Williams - The PATRIOT
Created 1 day ago by VutaatVerd



Garrus Vakarian - The VIGILANTE
Created 1 day ago by Meta Ray Mek



Grunt - The SAVAGE
Created 1 day ago by Luke Bioware



Jack - The PSYCHOPATH
Created 1 day ago by Average Gatsby



Jacob Taylor - The EXEMPLAR
Created 1 day ago by gashgfjaskgfkagh



Liara T'Soni - The PRODIGY
Created 1 day ago by Nozybidaj



Legion - The AUTOMATON
Created 1 day ago by xSolclaim



Kaidan Alenko - The GUARDIAN
Created 1 day ago by Mrs Templar



Kasumi Goto - The DAREDEVIL
Created 1 day ago by V1P3Rich



Miranda Lawson - The LOYALIST
Created 1 day ago by DarthReavus



Mordin Solus - The GENIUS
Created 1 day ago by siltsonata



Morinth - The SEDUCTRESS
Created 1 day ago by newcomplex



Samara - The MYSTIC
Created 1 day ago by Nadia73



Tali'Zorah - The SAVANT
Created 1 day ago by gkillerrin



Thane Krios - The ASSASSIN
Created 1 day ago by KalliChan07



Urdnot Wrex - The SURVIVALIST
Created 1 day ago by RenownedRyan



Zaeed Massani - The VETERAN
Created 1 day ago by mabalogna



Stan Woo - The BANHAMMER
Created 1 day ago by Ecael[/list]

[Pacifien]

Somehow I see the competition turning from who can keep their character support thread on the first page the most to who can get their sticky on top the most. If only the stickies would stay in alphabetical order.

[Doriath]

Id of Ith wrote...

I hope they reconsider this because a lot of us have no interest in the fan appreciation threads, and those of us looking to discuss the topics that this forum was previously dedicated to are going to have to look 3+ pages back just to find new topics that are less than a single day old because of how frequently those fan threads move.

My feeling exactly. If and until they seperate fiction discussion from gameplay strategy discussion, this forum is dead to me. I have no interest in coming on here and scrolling past 50+ page threads of people discussing why this character or that character needs to be in ME3... How people justify spending time in your life arguing over things that are totally pointless and out of your control is beyond my comprehension. II'll simply go to another forum to have logical discussions on gameplay and strategy.

[Pacifien]

chrisnabal wrote...
My feeling exactly. If and until they seperate fiction discussion from gameplay strategy discussion, this forum is dead to me.*snip*

I fear the worst for the strategy discussions. I always liked them, too.

[Ecael]

Pacifien wrote...

Somehow I see the competition turning from who can keep their character support thread on the first page the most to who can get their sticky on top the most. If only the stickies would stay in alphabetical order.

There needs to be a way to keep it in alphabetical order.

[Doriath]

They should just sticky all of the character support threads. I wouldn't have a problem with them if they stickies. They probably wouldn't have nearly as many posts though. Not much reason for those threads other than staying at the top of the topics list. Just another reason why I can't stand them.

Modifié par chrisnabal, 28 mai 2010 - 09:52 .

[legbamel]

I don't know about all of the character threads but it's incredibly rare that I see a "bump" post on the ones that I do visit. I've certainly not seen people bumping and saying, "Oh, my gosh, the imaginary competition we're having with a character that has nothing to do with our conversation had a more recent post!" When I post it's because I have something to say about the character or the question under consideration. I don't think most people who add to those threads believe that keeping it in some golden forum position will affect ME3 development at all. They just want to be able to find and continue the discussion they were having.

[Privateerkev]

legbamel wrote...

I don't know about all of the character threads but it's incredibly rare that I see a "bump" post on the ones that I do visit. I've certainly not seen people bumping and saying, "Oh, my gosh, the imaginary competition we're having with a character that has nothing to do with our conversation had a more recent post!" When I post it's because I have something to say about the character or the question under consideration. I don't think most people who add to those threads believe that keeping it in some golden forum position will affect ME3 development at all. They just want to be able to find and continue the discussion they were having.

I'm still fairly new around here. (About a month.) But I heard there used to be some fear that characters wouldn't make it into ME2. Or it would be a reduced role. So thread sizes were a way to show the devs that there is indeed a desire for the characters to have a large role in the game. And even now, there partly is a "Woo Hoo, our thread has xxxx posts! We are awesome!" attitude around here.

[legbamel]

Privateerkev wrote...

legbamel wrote...

I don't know about all of the character threads but it's incredibly rare that I see a "bump" post on the ones that I do visit. I've certainly not seen people bumping and saying, "Oh, my gosh, the imaginary competition we're having with a character that has nothing to do with our conversation had a more recent post!" When I post it's because I have something to say about the character or the question under consideration. I don't think most people who add to those threads believe that keeping it in some golden forum position will affect ME3 development at all. They just want to be able to find and continue the discussion they were having.

I'm still fairly new around here. (About a month.) But I heard there used to be some fear that characters wouldn't make it into ME2. Or it would be a reduced role. So thread sizes were a way to show the devs that there is indeed a desire for the characters to have a large role in the game. And even now, there partly is a "Woo Hoo, our thread has xxxx posts! We are awesome!" attitude around here.

I do know that there was a lot of that because people saw Tali's inclusion as an LI as bowing to fan pressure.  But the "look how many posts we have" mentality is pretty widespread on long-lived threads.  I hang out on a forum that had a thread about baking soda and we got the same sorts of posts because it seemed almost like an accomplishment to have so much to say (and so many participants) about such a small thing (like the ME1 LIs in ME2).  :happy:

[NICKjnp]

Ecael wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Somehow I see the competition turning from who can keep their character support thread on the first page the most to who can get their sticky on top the most. If only the stickies would stay in alphabetical order.

There needs to be a way to keep it in alphabetical order.

I give you...

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