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[Pacifien]

I did notice a slowdown on this forum right before the character threads were all moved here. And at this point, you might argue it would have remained slow aside from around DLC releases. However, injecting life into the forum by moving threads that are of a completely different flavor than strategy discussion means you're just repurposing the forum into something else.

Since the move is recent, time will tell if those interested in posting about strategy actually move on and stop posting here.

Honestly, I'm just wondering if we've hit the limitation of their message board capabilities. As it is, no forum has a subforum, which is a consistent argument people make on where the character threads really need to be. I completely agree with OniGanon's suggestion on how the Mass Effect forums should be organized, but it hinges all on their ability to create subforums in the first place.

[Doriath]

TMA LIVE wrote...
Also, this part of the forum was becoming dead, so this allows some life

Not in my opinion. I saw plenty of activity and new topics.

Besides even if it were the case, that doesn't justify the move. You don't make one group of people happy by dumping on another. You still have the same war going, you're just fighting a different army....

Modifié par chrisnabal, 29 mai 2010 - 10:52 .

[Pacifien]

Think there needs to be a clarification on what makes a forum dead anyway. To some posters, not having a post every minute is a sign of weakness a dying forum.

[Doriath]

Every minute is an extreme requisite. I was seeing multiple posts every hour and 2 or 3 new topics a day at the least..

That is just this section mind you, not the forums as a whole. Considering the premise, I don't think it was dying.

Modifié par chrisnabal, 29 mai 2010 - 11:09 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

i don't know why people are having a pole bigger then miranda's ass about this whole thing. It is a forum about characters too. You could simply not click on the support threads and you won't have a fuss about it.



P.S: That miranda's ass thing was a joke.

[The Spamming Troll]

i hate the character threads. i never checked out forum they were originally in because it was rediculouse. now they moved them here and now both forums are retarded. i rarely frequent this forum anymore because of all the retardedness.

[Doriath]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

i don't know why people are having a pole bigger then miranda's ass about this whole thing. It is a forum about characters too. You could simply not click on the support threads and you won't have a fuss about it.

P.S: That miranda's ass thing was a joke.

Well the description was changed to accomodate their relevance in being here. The bigger issue is that the constant posting in them to stay on the first page means a lot of people who came here to discuss strategy, builds and gameplay can't really keep their topics alive. Generally when things fall off the first page they aren't heard from anymore. If so many of threads on page one are character support, than it means this section just becomes about them and everyone else who doesn't post in those threads loses what they came here for. If that is what is needed to keep this section from "dying" than I don't get it. It's essentially killing the following that this section had before the move. Whatever reason that has been given for the move doesn't make any sense to me, so I'm at a loss at this point....

[Pacifien]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
i don't know why people are having a pole bigger then miranda's ass about this whole thing. It is a forum about characters too. You could simply not click on the support threads and you won't have a fuss about it.

This was also the argument for keeping them in their original location. People could have just as easily not clicked on them there. As characters are a large element of the storyline, it did fit within the Campaign Quests and Storylines scope.

But before you mention how the forum description and sticky mention this is the place for character support threads, keep in mind that the description was changed after the character threads were moved.

This forum may have always had "character" in the title, but the description on the forum sticky made it clear it was about your personal Shepard, not characters found throughout the game. People who advocated its move to this location never bothered to read what the forum was intended to be, they simply took one word in the title and made an assumption.

Subforums. Really.

Modifié par Pacifien, 30 mai 2010 - 12:06 .

[jwalker]

I'm not gonna say anything that hasn't been said already.

New forum, subforum or whatever for all those fan threads. Please.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

I really don't mind having the character threads moved to its own sub-forum, but then people would have a new reason to **** about them, so either way everyone is going to complain no matter what happens.

[mcsupersport]

If they have their own forum, then people who want to talk about story can, the ones wanting builds can and all the ones who want to gush about their crush can as well, and all not interfere with each other.

[FoFoZem]

BioWare screwed up....again. Anyone surprised? I'm not.

[badkenbad]

There's a really simple solution, you know. Just start up your strategy threads in the Quests & Storylines forum. After all, this forum title doesn't say anything about "strategy," just characters classes and builds. You need strategy to finish quests, right? We want to talk about gameplay, right? Not whose character model has the roundest butt.

Modifié par badkenbad, 31 mai 2010 - 03:05 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

badkenbad wrote...

There's a really simple solution, you know. Just start up your strategy threads in the Quests & Storylines forum. After all, this forum title doesn't say anything about "strategy," just characters classes and builds. You need strategy to finish quests, right? We want to talk about gameplay, right? Not whose character model has the roundest butt.

You gotta admit, bioware did spend a disturbingly large amount of time sculping people's arses in this game.

But in all seriousness i have to agree with you. 

[Doriath]

Well they just locked a similar thread, so I'm sure this will be next. Someone's not liking all the negativity, lol.

Modifié par chrisnabal, 31 mai 2010 - 03:22 .

[implodinggoat]

Average Gatsby wrote...

 I guess the game's been out long enough that people don't really argue over the best way to win anymore, and maybe this thread's already been made, but lo and behold I come back to the forums after all these months to see that the freaking Tali thread/miranda/ i luv dis char threads have all made their way into the strategy forum. I guess all us tipsters were gone for too long and let our sacred guide writing and video making space get trounced on.

I think I'll make a video tonight or something.

Very true.  I tried to keep the Soldier Insanity Tips thread alive for a while; but in the end it was overwhelmed and buried by all the "I Wuv Tali, Garrus, etc." threads.

If you've never looked into one of those threads they're pretty damned random since the large majority of their posts are made by the same group of die hards who ran out of things to discuss about the character the thread is devoted to long, long ago.  The Tali thread in particular is just nuts since it has some people who constantly post whatever crosses their mind so that if you actually take the time to post something thought out you'll find its already two pages back.  Its not that the people who follow the character support threads are bad natured or trolls or anything, its just that they don't really post anything Mass Effect related or thought out. 

I've gravitated towards the Characters, classes, and Builds subforum since the posts in this forum really discuss the game, ask questions and try to give answers.  But now that the character support threads are popping up in here I think the time has really come for the forums to have a new subforum dedicated totally to character support threads and randomness.

[Kaylord]

Threads like this tend to get locked. All in all, a nice example how frustrating it can be to be submitted to a certain arbitrariness of dictatorship which go against the lived and exhibited practise.

[Pacifien]

Well, since Stanley Woo says this kind of thread belongs in social.bioware.com site help, I suggest voicing your opinion there is well. Here's a link to a thread that's already been started about it.

[mi55ter]

implodinggoat wrote...

Average Gatsby wrote...

 I guess the game's been out long enough that people don't really argue over the best way to win anymore, and maybe this thread's already been made, but lo and behold I come back to the forums after all these months to see that the freaking Tali thread/miranda/ i luv dis char threads have all made their way into the strategy forum. I guess all us tipsters were gone for too long and let our sacred guide writing and video making space get trounced on.

I think I'll make a video tonight or something.

Very true.  I tried to keep the Soldier Insanity Tips thread alive for a while; but in the end it was overwhelmed and buried by all the "I Wuv Tali, Garrus, etc." threads.

If you've never looked into one of those threads they're pretty damned random since the large majority of their posts are made by the same group of die hards who ran out of things to discuss about the character the thread is devoted to long, long ago.  The Tali thread in particular is just nuts since it has some people who constantly post whatever crosses their mind so that if you actually take the time to post something thought out you'll find its already two pages back.  Its not that the people who follow the character support threads are bad natured or trolls or anything, its just that they don't really post anything Mass Effect related or thought out. 

I've gravitated towards the Characters, classes, and Builds subforum since the posts in this forum really discuss the game, ask questions and try to give answers.  But now that the character support threads are popping up in here I think the time has really come for the forums to have a new subforum dedicated totally to character support threads and randomness.

IMO, I'm sure the posters there are harmless, but it's still the very idea of these character support threads that worry me. I could understand a couple hundred pages, but thousands and thousands? As this poster says, it looks like it's just turned into a childish tug of war to see whose character support thread "stays on top". At the very least, that's spamming, at the worst, flourishing obsessive- compulsive disorders. OK, Bioware appreciate you love such and such a character, but go join their group, don't clog the forums with spam. I can't really imagine they'd (a) take us into account when deciding ME3 storylines and ( take those threads as any indicator of which character we want in ME3. So how about a solution for this, Bioware, that doesn't involve locking down this thread??

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

^



Thats not always true, our threads are just discussion and a place for people to hang out, at least some of them are maybe others are just a childish tug-of-war threads. But the idea that people think we are just a bunch of trolls and spammers is not true at all. If someone posts a constructive thread, then there will be people who will post constructive comments, and then again there may be a few lose nuts but thats out of the question.



But i kind of have to agree that our threads should go to its own sub-forum so it wouldn't bother anyone. Though from what i've seen, people are still going to complain about us no matter what. So whats the point?

[KalosCast]

If not a subforum, then just a regular forum is fine, just something to keep TaliScum from choking whatever forum they're in. It's nice to have the Quests and Storyline forum back, but while I rarely posted in this one, it was my favorite to read.

[Doriath]

It was my favorite to read as well, mainly because many things that people posted here actually helped me and gave me ways to be more successful in the game. I was horrible on insanity before I started reading what other people we're doing with their builds and such.



Not that the other stuff doesn't matter, it just isn't my cup of tea.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

chrisnabal wrote...

It was my favorite to read as well, mainly because many things that people posted here actually helped me and gave me ways to be more successful in the game. I was horrible on insanity before I started reading what other people we're doing with their builds and such.

Not that the other stuff doesn't matter, it just isn't my cup of tea.

You see, i respect posts like this, people stating their concern while keeping their cool and not acting like a bunch of crying children. I would rather have the charater threads in a sub-forum too and maybe have all the threads stickied on the first page, so then I wouldn't have to look through pages to find the certain thread i want to find.

[Inquisitor Recon]

implodinggoat wrote...
Very true.  I tried to keep the Soldier Insanity Tips thread alive for a while; but in the end it was overwhelmed and buried by all the "I Wuv Tali, Garrus, etc." threads.

If you've never looked into one of those threads they're pretty damned random since the large majority of their posts are made by the same group of die hards who ran out of things to discuss about the character the thread is devoted to long, long ago.  The Tali thread in particular is just nuts since it has some people who constantly post whatever crosses their mind so that if you actually take the time to post something thought out you'll find its already two pages back.  Its not that the people who follow the character support threads are bad natured or trolls or anything, its just that they don't really post anything Mass Effect related or thought out. 

I've gravitated towards the Characters, classes, and Builds subforum since the posts in this forum really discuss the game, ask questions and try to give answers.  But now that the character support threads are popping up in here I think the time has really come for the forums to have a new subforum dedicated totally to character support threads and randomness.

Dearest implodinggoat,

By now the news of our defeat has reached the general forum, the topics that we sent here to tame were untameable, and the threads we were sent to reclaim, have proven to be stronger than anticipated.

Whatever you may hear about what has happened out here, know this, the Characters, classes and Builds forum did not die gloriously in battle, I killed it... my pride killed it. And now my pride has consumed me as well.

You will never see me again. Tell my children that I love them, and that their father died in defense of their forum.

Au revior

Modifié par ReconTeam, 31 mai 2010 - 08:12 .