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I love playing as an engineer in ME1. ME2... not so much...

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mosor wrote...

Biotics and guns are just more exciting to larger number of people than tech skills. As I said above, every class is pretty powerful and fun if you know how to use em. It just seems that spamming combat drone and incinerate isn't everyone's cup of tea.


I'd say it's the 'caster' classes (Sentinel/Adept/Engineer) that aren't as popular as the combat focused ones (Soldier/Vanguard/Infiltrator). 

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jlb524 wrote...

mosor wrote...

Biotics and guns are just more exciting to larger number of people than tech skills. As I said above, every class is pretty powerful and fun if you know how to use em. It just seems that spamming combat drone and incinerate isn't everyone's cup of tea.


I'd say it's the 'caster' classes (Sentinel/Adept/Engineer) that aren't as popular as the combat focused ones (Soldier/Vanguard/Infiltrator). 


Adepts are popular, especially in ME1.  It's just people get discouraged with all the sheilding on insanity. Which really isn't much of an issue, but people got it in their heads that the adept is gimped.

The Sentinel on the other hand can be very combat focuessed with the assault sentinel build. It's probably the most powerful combat class I played on insanity. There just isn't too many flashy videos online showing how combat powerful the assault sentinel can be.

Modifié par mosor, 28 mai 2010 - 11:00 .


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That is how I played the Sentinel (combat focused/Assault Armor/shotgun for bonus), but I figured most played it as a caster and took Power Armor.



With the Adept, it just doesn't seem like many around these parts play it (in ME2), unless I'm looking in the wrong places :)


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Yes dear, you are looking in the wrong places.....tis a pity!

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jlb524 wrote...
With the Adept, it just doesn't seem like many around these parts play it (in ME2), unless I'm looking in the wrong places :)

It is the ninja-class. Like Mordin, easy to dismiss in the face of more combat-heavy classes such as the vanguard. But an adept with elite singularity aiming skills will go far.

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jlb524 wrote...

That is how I played the Sentinel (combat focused/Assault Armor/shotgun for bonus), but I figured most played it as a caster and took Power Armor.

With the Adept, it just doesn't seem like many around these parts play it (in ME2), unless I'm looking in the wrong places :)

I play mainly as an Adept, with sniping.. Adept + Widow = I win!

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I do play Adept and Sentinel mainly. I guess there are more Adept players than I thought.

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I am most definitely not a fan of FPS's especially at close range fights, so at first I thought that I would never, ever do a soldier or vanguard playthrough. However, after seeing some of the class threads around here, I now intend to do a playthrough using every single class, and greatly enjoy it at that. However so far my favorite classes remain infiltrator and engineer. Guess that says something about the "not-great" tech powers in ME2 huh.

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Sunnie22 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

That is how I played the Sentinel (combat focused/Assault Armor/shotgun for bonus), but I figured most played it as a caster and took Power Armor.

With the Adept, it just doesn't seem like many around these parts play it (in ME2), unless I'm looking in the wrong places :)

I play mainly as an Adept, with sniping.. Adept + Widow = I win!


QFT. I've been messing around with tying unlock commands to my numpad keys, and the Adept with a Rev and a Widow is hilarious. It's like a cross between Darth Sidious and Rambo.

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jlb524 wrote...

mosor wrote...

Biotics and guns are just more exciting to larger number of people than tech skills. As I said above, every class is pretty powerful and fun if you know how to use em. It just seems that spamming combat drone and incinerate isn't everyone's cup of tea.


I'd say it's the 'caster' classes (Sentinel/Adept/Engineer) that aren't as popular as the combat focused ones (Soldier/Vanguard/Infiltrator). 

I wonder why. I find the 'caster' classes much more enjoyable. OK, maybe not the Adept on Insanity, all those additional immunities are no fun. And every time I notice armor protects against Throw, Pull or Singularity, I'm annoyed because that's implausible, game balance be damned.

So, Engineers and Sentinels, the remainng "caster" classes, are much more enjoyable than Soldiers or Vanguards.

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Sunnie22 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

That is how I played the Sentinel (combat focused/Assault Armor/shotgun for bonus), but I figured most played it as a caster and took Power Armor.

With the Adept, it just doesn't seem like many around these parts play it (in ME2), unless I'm looking in the wrong places :)

I play mainly as an Adept, with sniping.. Adept + Widow = I win!

I guess you cheated with the Widow, because Adepts don't get that.... Easy to say that's a win situation....

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Many players like the flashiers  classes,
not saying they are bad though,
lot of classes got wonderful new toys, and on the paper engies are pistol'n'drone
goes without saying that's ignoring the beautiful array of strategies all tech powers gives.

The engineer is the only class I really enjoy playing since ME1 actually, and only class I completed insanity with.
love the class so much  that my bonus power is always neural shock, to keep it "pure" :)
don't use much beside being the kill husk button with very low cooldown

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

If you think engineers are so awesome then why don't you use one of their cool signature bars

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ohhhh that sig looks shiny....

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Engineers are called engineers... And I think people want something called a "super machine explosion maker". Sounds stupid, but honestly, I bet that a lot of people are thrown off by the name.



Also... w/Infiltrator - On any difficulty: Finding a loner, cloaking, moving to point blank, and then holding an smg is really fun. If people want a tech class there's something about invisibility that's just sexy.

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Engineer had the least appeal to me in ME1 and so in ME2, too. Engineers belong to the engine room of the Normandy. I never understood why an Engineer should be 1XO of the Normandy, even less so the head of a N7 special task force.



Having played all but Sentinel and Engineer, I wonder which class would be more fun. Enginer with Drone, AI and Dominate, definitely. It is just so strange from a roleplay perspective why an Engineer should be able to Dominate (biotic power).

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Kaylord wrote...
Engineer had the least appeal to me in ME1 and so in ME2, too. Engineers belong to the engine room of the Normandy. I never understood why an Engineer should be 1XO of the Normandy, even less so the head of a N7 special task force.

Having played all but Sentinel and Engineer, I wonder which class would be more fun. Enginer with Drone, AI and Dominate, definitely. It is just so strange from a roleplay perspective why an Engineer should be able to Dominate (biotic power).

I think of the word Engineer as more than just your typical definition of Engineer. Like all classes of Shepards are trained as field soldiers, and the class name just describes their specialization of combat. So an Engineer Shepard really doesn't belong in the engine room, he's just trained to be a tech-specialized soldier called an Engineer. Or something like that.

Anyway, I never like using biotic powers on a nonbiotic class, but Dominate just fits so well as a counterpart to AI Hacking. And the way I play Engineer is all about distracting the enemy, having them fight anything but me. I do this mostly through the use of the Combat Drone, though.

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Really in the ME1 and ME2 combat system I see every "non Soldier" class as a suport class. I did some playtrhoughs and at the end I never used powers as the main combat habilities rather than supporting ones. I can't live without the assault riffle, I found every other weapon nearly useless except for specific moments.



And your partners are AWFUL soldiers. I could never let them that responsability; maybe a supporting soldier, but they can't be the main tank.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Probably most players' experience is different. Why?

Answer is pretty simple. It's about everyones playing style, not about what's good.

Every player likes to play sertain way and they don't allways like some classes, because it doesn't fit they style of playing. Example I play my self infiltrator, because I like how versitile it is. Also it has long range attacks and ability stay hidden. How ever, I don't like summoning or close combat. Summoning is too passive way and close combat not modern enough. (To my combat style)

Modifié par Lumikki, 31 mai 2010 - 02:53 .


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I felt the same way as OP with the Soldier until I realized the level of fun with that class should be illegal.



Anyway, I love the Engineer. It really has a lot of options to negate repetitious gameplay and its powers are much more useful than the Adept.



But the Adept is my favorite class

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My friend told me that engineers are good, but i decided to go with infiltrator with my new shepard. Probably because i never used a widow before.

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Kaylord wrote...

Having played all but Sentinel and Engineer, I wonder which class would be more fun. Enginer with Drone, AI and Dominate, definitely. It is just so strange from a roleplay perspective why an Engineer should be able to Dominate (biotic power).


That's true for a majority of powers for a majority of classes. Dominate doesn't even really make sense for anyone who's not an Ardat Yakshi, and Warp Ammo doesn't even really... make sense.

Engineer is without a doubt my favorite class, kind of stinks that they lost their ability to be combat medics though with the new health system. Now they're just the techies.

Modifié par KalosCast, 31 mai 2010 - 06:59 .


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I liked being an Engineer in ME2. With Tali and Legion in your party, you can get all your combat drones together and have one big, crazy party!

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Alex_SM wrote...
Really in the ME1 and ME2 combat system I see every "non Soldier" class as a suport class. I did some playtrhoughs and at the end I never used powers as the main combat habilities rather than supporting ones. I can't live without the assault riffle, I found every other weapon nearly useless except for specific moments.

One of the more humorous quirks of the ME1 combat system is that with the right skillset and upgrades, the pistol had the highest DPS of any weapon including the assault rifle.

The developers smartly fixed that for ME2, but I still do get a great kick out of shooting the pistol forever when I return to a ME1 playthrough.