Nightwriter wrote...
Andrew_Waltfeld wrote...
just to throw in my own obersevation, the geth wouldn't like losing programs, losing programs means less brain power for them, less perspectives and opinons. It would be like - It would be like if All the european countries just simply vanished. The geth would lose too many perspectives, it would slow them down, and they will have to cope with it. We humans hate each most others guts, but we also care in a limited sense for each other, if the european countries suddenly vanished, we would be. WTH? did they die? did they leave the collective? if they died, why? Did someone do it? If so, who did it? Will they do it to us? IF they will not do it to us, why did they do it the europeans? Should we avenge the loss of perspectives and opinons?
The geth culture is in risk of annihilation as well considering this. Their culture is their collective nature of sharing their opinons, it's like big-*** forum where they debate, and form opinons on many inputs and views like we are doing right now discussing this issue. Of course this happens at all FTL speeds for them, but yes. They are a nation unto themselves and operate as such, each with it's own opinon and views on everything.
Just my thoughts on that.
Hmm. I admit ignorance as to the specifics of what is contained in a single geth. I was under the impression each geth is a bit like a terminal, impersonal, a mobile platform tapped into the greater geth network. And every program they have could be housed in their Dyson Sphere.
Still - the geth population is infinitely greater than the quarian population. Legion gives us an idea as to its size. If the geth suffered the loss of 17 million it would hardly matter. If the quarians lost that many they'd be wiped out. And the geth can repopulate quicker.
"One death is an tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."
The loss of 17 million geth is equally tragic, for the quarians it will mean extinction yes, but for the geth, it would still hurt just as much.
Just another obersvation -
The loss of 17 million would be like if New York City (or an combination of a few major cities) vanished under an nuclear bomb(s), or an comet/asteriod impact(s). It would still impact in an similar way to the geth, perhaps for different reasons, but I can guantee you this - the geth aren't going to like whoever killed 17 millon geth and mostly likely will attempt to kill them. They aren't going to act Meh, I lost 17 million o well. We lost more people in the WTC then at pearl harbor and it turned an fairly "peace not war" nation into an blood thristy nation for almost an year hunting down the btards and the group they were affiated with and we're still dealing with the aftereffects of that bloody thirstyness.
If your in an large group, you operate within that group despite not knowing everyone (say an job at an corporation) and then suddenly someone whacks 17 people in that group, I can almost gauntee you, that group is going to be mighty ****ed. It's not just for the fact the group lost 17 people that they may or may not knew, it's the fact that even though some people in the group hated them, they are STILL part of the group, and will react to the threat because 17 of that group fell.
It's like... if someone dies in your family, you didn't really know them, didn't really hang out with them, barely talked to them, your more than likely to still go to the furneral. Why? Because they were family, wether you knew them, or you hate them, most people will still show up to it because they were still apart of the family and if someone killed said family member, most famailies will hate that person's guts.
Because of the geth and their collectiveness, you need to apply group mentality instead of an single person. At least that is another obersvation of mine.
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Shandepared wrote...
There is no such thing as a geth
civilian, there is no such thing as genocide against a machine. The
value of a geth program will never equal the value of a quarian life or
any organic life. You can destroy all the geth and delete all their
programs and as long as you have their code saved somewhere you could
easily bring them back with no harm done. You can't do that with a
quarian.
I don't see the war as equal because it is not equal.
The quarians did nothing wrong and the geth are dangerous rogue A.I. .
I can bring back almost every single quarian or organic life that died now, thanks to Cerbersus, but hey, thanks to their research, we can now bring back the geth from the dead, abiet at an 4 billion credit cost per life. Still feasbile.
With that response done I am sure we can reasonably say that neither
quarians nor geth are coming out squeeky clean. Regardless of your
views.
Modifié par Andrew_Waltfeld, 07 juin 2010 - 04:38 .