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Aargh, Bioware please don't tell me you're going the multiplayer route for ME3


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Coop play could be a lot of fun. ME2 already pushed to balance the classes. It could conceivably be awesome. But it could also ruin the game. We're going to need to hear a lot more before we can really say anything about how it will turn out.



"There will be multiplayer" doesn't really say anything at all about how the game will be, except that more than one person can play at a time.

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They're probably going to try a coop add-on for ME2, or a coop expansion. Probably the "overreaching thing": that would hit the franchise later this year.

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SaranBlade wrote...

They're probably going to try a coop add-on for ME2, or a coop expansion. Probably the "overreaching thing": that would hit the franchise later this year.

Oh really? I wouldn't bet that it'll be connected to the ME Trilogy at ALL...

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exactly. i have the feeling that bioware isnt going to stop at the ME trilogy. i hope they dont. there are so many great spin offs waiting to happen...

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I actually loved Bioshock 2 more than the original, but I never touch the multi-player. The same could be said about Red Dead Redemption (which I still haven't finished but I'm 15 hours in) and even further back, Grand Theft Auto 4. As far as [Mass Effect 3] is concerned, it'll be the same thing; I'll only be playing the single-player and not touching the multi-player.



I would like to add that I got 1030/1030 on Mass Effect 2 so CLEARLY I liked the game enough to play through it twice, which is also reflected in the fact that I never go out of my way to get all of the achievements and trophies of a game unless I absolutely loved the game.

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As long as they don't sacrafice the quality of single player'/story etc. OK ... but I still wish they left the trilogy just for Single Player... Think about it, what could bring more profit for the company:



Adding an extra feature to the product without increasing the price of the product

or

Making this feature a standalone product and charge full price just for it.

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Hunter Boris.0

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Co-op would be awesome

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Damn it Bioware you missed April Fools by two months...

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If ME3 is going to be multiplyer it is indeed disturbing news.

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I expect bioware will not include any form of multiplayer in ME3.
Because a multiplayer part will necessarily have some negative impacts in the single player experience (less time to do the single player part, less rpg, less dialog, ....)

I don't want another Mass effect 'Gears of war'.

Modifié par Choum28, 02 juin 2010 - 06:40 .


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Lougi wrote...

I don't see what the big deal is. We don't even have any details yet people are already freaking out and damning the franchise. Who's to say they don't go the Bioshock 2 route, which worked out great, and have two separate teams working on the two aspects of the game?

How about we wait for more details before we start crying foul. Or don't. Not my problem, I'm just going to wait and see.


See? It wouldn't even bother you if multiplayer deathmatches end up being in ME3, would it?

Pocketgb wrote...

Not with all that dialog, brah.


Ever consider how multiplayer wouldn't have a lot of dialogue? Besides, in ME1 and 2, dialogue is more or less optional. Combat isn't. For those that don't care about plot, they wouldn't care what choices they end up making by continually pressing the X button during cutscenes or whatever the equivalent is for the PC.

Pirate Jet wrote...

Holy crap, calm down people. There's reason to be nervous if, say, the single player suffers because resources were devoted to multiplayer, but look at the 'facts' we have now: they're hiring people to work on it. As in, people who have MP experience. As in, NOT the people working on the single player experience.
Lord, why would you people complain just because something is THERE?


Well more resources went to combat in ME2 at the expense of plot, so I'm pretty confident the same will happen again for ME3.

Sajon1 wrote...

Even if there was co-op I dont think I would play it. I much prefer getting lost in the game ALONE.


WHYYYYYY? CO OP IS TEH FUTURE OF GAMING!

fortunesque wrote...

They've said multiple times that they will not have multiplayer in Mass Effect.


Not ONCE did they ever say that. And if it is true, so what? You can hardly say they "sold out". Shooter fans are where the money is. Bioware is a business and businesses look out for profits. That's that. No more no less to it.

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Got to go with above said poster...BioWare is your typical run of the mill money grubbing company. Sure, they will "take into consideration" what the fans want...But in the end, ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY....If they were given the choice to either A.)Pander to the fans or B.) Make a profit, guess which one they'll take? If you said A, then you're pretty damn naieve XD

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The sad part is...there is no NEED to make ME3 multiplayer. They have created their own original IP...and there is plenty of room to make all kinds of ME spin off games, AFTER they finish the original trilogy. After ME3 is done, you can bet fans will want to dive back into the ME universe, so they can come up with all kinds of co-op or MP games to do that.

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I personally own both Mass Effect 1 and 2 and think that they were both amazing without multiplayer, however if Bioware was to add multiplayer i can see how it could work...or ruin the game of done wrong.
If they put in an Arena type game mode like in Gears 2 where you could play as Sheperd or diferent characters from the Campaign then i think it would be very fun and I would buy it.
However, if they try to add coop to the actual Campaign then it could completely ruin the story, especially if they do like Army of 2 and try to make you play with a partner.
So in my opinion coop could be a good thing but we'll have to know more before we can tell. Image IPB

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javierabegazo wrote...

SaranBlade wrote...

They're probably going to try a coop add-on for ME2, or a coop expansion. Probably the "overreaching thing": that would hit the franchise later this year.

Oh really? I wouldn't bet that it'll be connected to the ME Trilogy at ALL...

Thanks for the info...

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Aradace wrote...

Got to go with above said poster...BioWare is your typical run of the mill money grubbing company. Sure, they will "take into consideration" what the fans want...But in the end, ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY....If they were given the choice to either A.)Pander to the fans or B.) Make a profit, guess which one they'll take? If you said A, then you're pretty damn naieve XD


I was being sarcastic. With how ME2 turned out, I accept that they've gone the profit route, but I also feel they sold out as too many posters here don't take kindly to.

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ME3 has already been confirmed as a single player game awhile back, don't fret. 

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ME3 is going to be a multiplayer only game!! nooo!



(that's my assumption, personal bias, and logic working here)

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Pirate Jet wrote...

Holy crap, calm down people. There's reason to be nervous if, say, the single player suffers because resources were devoted to multiplayer, but look at the 'facts' we have now: they're hiring people to work on it. As in, people who have MP experience. As in, NOT the people working on the single player experience.
Lord, why would you people complain just because something is THERE?



There is something there, the ad could have said "Game Writer" or "Dialog Editor" instead of "MP Programmer". The money all comes from the same kitty and anything devoted to MP, just like money spent on Makos and Hammerheads, is money that could have been spent on story, narrative, dialog and other "role playing" elements.

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Sidney wrote...

Pirate Jet wrote...

Holy crap, calm down people. There's reason to be nervous if, say, the single player suffers because resources were devoted to multiplayer, but look at the 'facts' we have now: they're hiring people to work on it. As in, people who have MP experience. As in, NOT the people working on the single player experience.
Lord, why would you people complain just because something is THERE?



There is something there, the ad could have said "Game Writer" or "Dialog Editor" instead of "MP Programmer". The money all comes from the same kitty and anything devoted to MP, just like money spent on Makos and Hammerheads, is money that could have been spent on story, narrative, dialog and other "role playing" elements.


OH i get it.  So if a company spends more money on a game its better right?  So the most expensive game ever created, Shenmue at 70 million dollars, should be the best game EVER because of that logic.  Also any flaws in Mass Effect 2 was because bioware didnt have the money or resources to make it better.  MAKES so much sense!  Image IPB

edit: GTA IV may be estimated at 100 million, not sure though

Modifié par EA_BiowareAccount, 02 juin 2010 - 09:53 .


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All I will say is that if the multiplayer prevents the game for having a continuity with ME2, and I'm talking about major choices and romances, then they should not put it.

Indeed, if it prevents the creation of a relationship between Shepard and other LIs that would be odd. I will be honest, I will be disappointed if the romance I did in ME2 will not be continued in the third. I was already extremely disappointed when I saw the character dying in the final mission and that no cinematic was done to see Shepard shouting and swearing vengeance. Just "Oh no they killed her!"........

I stronly believe that one of the main points in ME2 was the relationship construction between the characters and the multiplayer in ME3 should not prevent this part of the game from continuing to exist.

If it doesn't then that would be great. For example if there are separate parts between "in fight" and "history", like there is in ME2 that is feasible. Indeed one player could push "start" to join and get the control of one LI, like in the old arcade games. That would be cool.

Another correct way to do a multiplayer without altering the in-game possibilities would be to do it the same way as in Baldur's Gate 2. Playing alone gave the opportunity to make romances while playing with friends did not. If the same is done for ME3 then there are no problems. 

But then again, BG remains one of the greatest games ever. And if ME trilogy wants to have the same achievements, then Bioware will have to play hard. Just hope they did not forget that working hard for BG gave them the credit they have now and that they should keep on doing it.

Modifié par dinin70, 02 juin 2010 - 10:04 .


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Choum28 wrote...

I expect bioware will not include any form of multiplayer in ME3.
Because a multiplayer part will necessarily have some negative impacts in the single player experience (less time to do the single player part, less rpg, less dialog, ....)

I don't want another Mass effect 'Gears of war'.


As I just said in previous post I completely disagree. Baldur's Gate Multiplayer did not affected the quality of the Single player game.

Both method gave completely different experiences and the multi did not interfere with the possibilities of the single player.

And to strenghten this argument, Baldur's Gate is from Bioware, so I'm not making foolish and useless comparisons between Mass Effet, Gears of War, Bioshock or GTA which are all completely different games

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OH i get it.  So if a company spends more money on a game its better right?  So the most expensive game ever created, Shenmue at 70 million dollars, should be the best game EVER because of that logic.  Also any flaws in Mass Effect 2 was because bioware didnt have the money or resources to make it better.  MAKES so much sense!  Image IPB

edit: GTA IV may be estimated at 100 million, not sure though


Regardless, a lot of resources in the hands of competent developers could be a great thing. There's a reason most indy games suck while at the same time having a lot of potential. For the most part, at the very least, adequate resources go a long way compared to next to nothing.

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Single Player always suffers or Multiplayer always suffers when you combine the two.



Make either a single player game or a multiplayer game, never both.



*sigh* this is EA's doing

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I really wouldn't mind co-op, but how will the Power Wheel integrate into co-op play? I don't see it happening.