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SkullandBonesmember wrote...

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...

OH i get it.  So if a company spends more money on a game its better right?  So the most expensive game ever created, Shenmue at 70 million dollars, should be the best game EVER because of that logic.  Also any flaws in Mass Effect 2 was because bioware didnt have the money or resources to make it better.  MAKES so much sense!  

edit: GTA IV may be estimated at 100 million, not sure though

Regardless, a lot of resources in the hands of competent developers could be a great thing. There's a reason most indy games suck while at the same time having a lot of potential. For the most part, at the very least, adequate resources go a long way compared to next to nothing.

my point is that EA and Bioware are not hurting for resources and throwing more money is like making more icing than there is cake.  There is no real proof that multiplayer takes away from single player and vice versa other than assumptions that it does (a game is bad because they put in multiplayer).  The argument that bioshock 2 is worse than bioshock 1 because they decided to make multiplayer feature is absurd! let's forget the fact that there was a different developer working on the game!  There's plenty of games where I enjoyed and never played the multiplayer such as starcraft, Warcraft III, Half-life 2, Resident Evil 5, all the GTAs, Red Dead Redemption,Fable II

I think people who are against multiplayer are making excuses of why multiplayer shouldnt be in ME3 because of their own personal bad experiences in the past with other people being dumb.  I definitely respect people's opinion  saying that they do not like multiplayer because of the "stupid" people you could encounter but dont make your own bias fact and universal to others!  you might as well spew religious text down my throat.  Dont tell me how to play!! whew whoa

rant over! 

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PARAGON87 wrote...

I really wouldn't mind co-op, but how will the Power Wheel integrate into co-op play? I don't see it happening.

I could see it happening live, no pause....

[QuantumDeath]

I dont see it happening. Or BioWare is going to lose a lot of money by making a mistake. It's a big deal. Yes. No matter what anybody says, save the rest of the diskspace for campaign, save multiplayer for another game. Simple.  It's not smart to ****** off the hardcore Mass Effect players that enjoy it for what it is.  Bioware, you ever seen an angry mob?  You dont want one in a petition.  Be smart.

The last thing I need to hear are annoying people when I come home and try to get MULTIPLAYER ACHIEVEMENTS in a SINGLEPLAYER GAME. This is a game i come home to, play, and relax. Nothing more. It's better as a story being played, than being trampled on by multiplayer nonsense while a bunch of freaks hack the leaderboard and be gay and T-bag other players. I don't need to look at that retarded nonsense when I try and get Acheivements.

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QuantumDeath wrote...

I dont see it happening. Or BioWare is going to lose a lot of money by making a mistake. It's a big deal. Yes. No matter what anybody says, save the rest of the diskspace for campaign, save multiplayer for another game. Simple.  It's not smart to ****** off the hardcore Mass Effect players that enjoy it for what it is.  Bioware, you ever seen an angry mob?  You dont want one in a petition.  Be smart.

The last thing I need to hear are annoying people when I come home and try to get MULTIPLAYER ACHIEVEMENTS in a SINGLEPLAYER GAME. This is a game i come home to, play, and relax. Nothing more. It's better as a story being played, than being trampled on by multiplayer nonsense while a bunch of freaks hack the leaderboard and be gay and T-bag other players. I don't need to look at that retarded nonsense when I try and get Acheivements.

So for you its about getting achievements...thats it? to play multiplayer? 

what do achievements do?

[QuantumDeath]

If I like the game, I get a straight 1000, or max out on all of it. If I really really like this game, I'll get a Mass Effect Tattoo. Its about the story, and the achievements. If the story is good, im sure as hell going to complete it all. Plain and simple.



If you play the 350, you have whats called a GamerScore. There, you earn achievements, you get a higher gamer score, and that represents the hard work and dedication you have. What it represents to me, is the good games. My good games, all have high scores. i play the hell out of them basically.

Reptilian Rob wrote...



ME3 has already been confirmed as a single player game awhile back, don't fret.

Yeah, I recently read up on someone that was from BioWare. They said it was confirmed a SINGLE PLAYER only game. I can finally settle down now.



Anyways, I got a raging headache. If I run across any more of this crap, I'm afraid I might through my TV off a balcony.

[DKnightPortela]

We all knew this would be bound to happen and its like i didnt warn before but as always people tell that us RPG'ers are this and that and this, well we win simple as that, they are going the money grabbing road and to be honest what do ya expected? Its EA for cris sake they want a piece of the CODMW2 action for multiplayer with non existent dedicated servers and people STILL buy that crap!!!

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DKnightPortela wrote...

We all knew this would be bound to happen and its like i didnt warn before but as always people tell that us RPG'ers are this and that and this, well we win simple as that, they are going the money grabbing road and to be honest what do ya expected? Its EA for cris sake they want a piece of the CODMW2 action for multiplayer with non existent dedicated servers and people STILL buy that crap!!!

I plan on getting that crap, haha.  My two good friends play it and they live hundreds of miles away, it would be good to keep in touch that way and on top of that Im pretty good at shooters. 

[Dethateer]

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[Massadonious1]

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[TommyNg]

Mass effect was originally a single player rpg game,it is very difficult to turn into in Multiplayer .There are so many balancing issue, like how can a soldier use adrenaline rush or biotic use biotic power towards each other? Also how renegade/paradon option be used on MP? It will kill the game badly if they create wrongly, please dont turn the best RPG game to a disaster just make it single. ME 3 will be turned to a shooting game rather than rpg if they do so , remember ME so good as it is based on storytelling and shooting, not just shooting.

EA can make a different mass effect MP game after ME 3 ,by the way I dont want to be anyone other than shepard.

[AlanC9]

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...
my point is that EA and Bioware are not hurting for resources and throwing more money is like making more icing than there is cake.  There is no real proof that multiplayer takes away from single player and vice versa other than assumptions that it does

Whenever I read this sort of magical thinking I end up doubting that the poster is worth talking to. There are really folks at Bioware sitting around doing nothing?

[Sidney]

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...

my point is that EA and Bioware are not hurting for resources and throwing more money is like making more icing than there is cake.  There is no real proof that multiplayer takes away from single player and vice versa other than assumptions that it does (a game is bad because they put in multiplayer). 

Do you live in the real world?

Project X has a deadline of Y. It has a set of features Z that must be developed before that time and resources H to do the job.

So now there's a big list of features somewhere for ME3, one of them is Multi-player and it takes some odd amount of time to finish. That task affects the deadline and it also consumes a resource. Assuming they are ncocnerned with letting the release date float towards the present that means that multi-player does competre with other tasks for resources and priorities. They've made a decision to spend 200 hours developing MP capability rather than 200 hours building out another level. That's not good unless you love MP play.

Bioshock 2 wasn't ruined by MP but it added nothing to the game- if you want that shoot crap with other idiots experience there are dozens of games that do it better because they were designed around the experience.

I say the same thing about whatever scarce resources are deveoted to Hammerheads and Makos. Throw your resources at what you do well and don't try and grab bag for everyone under the sun.

[Mr. sickVisionz]

I'm excited for this. My team mates (mainly just Tali) would regularly take cover by standing on top of a crate or they'd die within 4 seconds of a fight starting on Insanity. Replacing them with non-idiots would be a major improvement imo.

[Vena_86]

Why doesnt BioWare comment on this?

It is obviously a "big deal" for many people. Wield specualtion should not be left unchecked for so long.

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Sidney wrote...

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...

my point is that EA and Bioware are not hurting for resources and throwing more money is like making more icing than there is cake.  There is no real proof that multiplayer takes away from single player and vice versa other than assumptions that it does (a game is bad because they put in multiplayer). 

Do you live in the real world?

Project X has a deadline of Y. It has a set of features Z that must be developed before that time and resources H to do the job.

So now there's a big list of features somewhere for ME3, one of them is Multi-player and it takes some odd amount of time to finish. That task affects the deadline and it also consumes a resource. Assuming they are ncocnerned with letting the release date float towards the present that means that multi-player does competre with other tasks for resources and priorities. They've made a decision to spend 200 hours developing MP capability rather than 200 hours building out another level. That's not good unless you love MP play.

Bioshock 2 wasn't ruined by MP but it added nothing to the game- if you want that shoot crap with other idiots experience there are dozens of games that do it better because they were designed around the experience.

I say the same thing about whatever scarce resources are deveoted to Hammerheads and Makos. Throw your resources at what you do well and don't try and grab bag for everyone under the sun.

For the sake of your alphabet logic , if there really was a resource issue for implementing mp into ME3 since I dont think there would be because of the success of ME2 and the attention of a movie being made, EA will front the bill on this.  ME3 will still focus on single player experience and probably short come the MP component before the single player.

couple of things, I think someone posted that ME3 won't have mp anyways. Second of all I never said I would play ME3 multiplayer, thanks for assuming tho!  My gripe is people making judgements about multiplayer in general.  Based on the rumor it would have been an outside developer to make the MP component not the single player component.  So manhours wouldnt have been an issue.

You said it yourself "if you want that shoot crap with other idiots experience there are dozens of games that do it better because they were designed around the experience."  You got personal reasons for not liking multiplayer, fine I get it.  Im not trying to presuade anyone to like it here, its pretty pretentious though to look down on others who do.I sound pretty angry rereading this

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AlanC9 wrote...

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...
my point is that EA and Bioware are not hurting for resources and throwing more money is like making more icing than there is cake.  There is no real proof that multiplayer takes away from single player and vice versa other than assumptions that it does

Whenever I read this sort of magical thinking I end up doubting that the poster is worth talking to. There are really folks at Bioware sitting around doing nothing?

Where did you draw that out of what I said?

[Darkhour]

I can see an arena style multiplayer game, but Mass Effect itself, the main game, is not multiplayer compatible. Are two players going to split up at hubs and hold different conversations simultaneously? This is either a different game altogether in the Mass Effect universe or multiplayer like Halo.

[Pimmeh667]

All EA and EA-related games in 2011 and beyond will have MP. It's a new rule in the EA policy.

[Khayness]

Pimmeh667 wrote...

All EA and EA-related games in 2011 and beyond will have MP. It's a new rule in the EA policy.

I only heard about online features.

[underdog123]

Wither or not BioWare releases a MP or MMORPG version of Mass Effect will depend solely on The Old Republic.



BioWare has spent years on the TOR project, which has been basically trying to combine not only the Knights of the Old Republic combat system with the Mass Effect one, but also MP and RP over multiply platforms that can be accessed by players at almost any time (Multiply planets with space ship travel between them).



When they started this project, BioWare made a promise to all gamers. If they keep this promise (The game lives up to the hype and more), they will be rewarded with dominance of the gaming community for years to come (Hell, they would be bigger then Blizzard.). If they fail to keep their promises, they will lose all their fans and most likely go bankrupt. But the question is, why would they go to such effort to create a brand new system for MMORPG?



To answer this, look at Blizzard. Blizzard created World of Warcraft. However, it wasn't as simple as creating a simple MP game. Before WoW, the technology for MMORPG games simply didn't exist. Blizzard had to create it for themselves. It took them ages, and cost heaps to do, but look at the result. WoW has been consistently one of the top five greatest games ever created ever since it came out six or seven years ago.



As we write these posts, BioWare is working day and night to create the new technology needed for TOR. If they are successful, a Mass Effect MMORPG will quickly follow, since it seems a lot of TOR is based off Mass Effect to begin with. For example, http://www.swtor.com...tems/companions



Thank you all for the time it took to read this. Have a nice day.

[zalderach]

You guys should start an online petition, maybe even a Facebook group.

[Lougi]

Vena_86 wrote...

Why doesnt BioWare comment on this?
It is obviously a "big deal" for many people. Wield specualtion should not be left unchecked for so long.

Because there's probably not a whole lot to comment on? This whole fiasco was created from the tiniest leak. Who's to say they even have anything planned out beyond the very early conception stages? If that's the case, what exactly can they say to allay the fears people have?

If they do have something to say though, I agree, they really need to loosen the lips and calm people down... or try anyways.

[Ed B]

I am not in favor of multiplayer if it affects solo play. If solo play is uaffected and the full storyline and functionality is available in solo play I do not care. Also I would not want to pay extra for multiplayer functionality I will not use.