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Aargh, Bioware please don't tell me you're going the multiplayer route for ME3


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Vicious wrote...

Anyone who says "Dragon Age outsold Mass Effect 2" either has not researched properly or is just posting their game bias.


About two weeks ago, EA said that ME2 sold 1.6 million for 360 and PC including digital downloads. So that was over about 3 months.
http://www.examiner....d-Mass-Effect-2


They said Dragon Age sold 3.2 million back in Februray. So this is sales over about 3 months too.
http://investor.ea.c...eleaseid=443674

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Perhaps multiplayer planet scanning is on the 'Horizon'?



I'm not paying for an Xbox Live gold subscription just to play Mass Effect with/against other human players. The AI is stupid enough.

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erilben wrote...

About
two weeks ago, EA said that ME2 sold 1.6 million for 360 and PC
including digital downloads. So that was over about 3 months.
http://www.examiner....d-Mass-Effect-2


They
said Dragon Age sold 3.2 million back in Februray. So this is sales
over about 3 months too.
http://investor.ea.c...eleaseid=443674


Huh, VGchartz said otherwise.  Oh well.  Anyways, there are several factors that could contribute to this:

Dragon Age was released on PS3, while Mass Effect 2 wasn't.
Dragon Age got boosted by the holiday season.

Modifié par SSV Enterprise, 29 mai 2010 - 05:54 .


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erilben wrote...

Vicious wrote...

Anyone who says "Dragon Age outsold Mass Effect 2" either has not researched properly or is just posting their game bias.


About two weeks ago, EA said that ME2 sold 1.6 million for 360 and PC including digital downloads. So that was over about 3 months.
http://www.examiner....d-Mass-Effect-2


They said Dragon Age sold 3.2 million back in Februray. So this is sales over about 3 months too.
http://investor.ea.c...eleaseid=443674

How many X-Box 360 copies of Mass Effect 2 were sold?

How many X-Box 360 copies of Dragon Age were sold?

You have to remember, Dragon Age is also on the PS3.

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So there's a job posting for Bioware Montreal for a multiplayer programmer to work on the Mass Effect franchise. So I wonder 1) how does that translate to working on a game being developed by Bioware Edmonton and 2) who thought the ME franchise was going to end with ME3?

Considering how long it's taking Bioware Austin to produce The Old Republic, we're either talking about pushing ME3 back a couple years to adapt it for multiplayer or we're talking about an entirely different Mass Effect game.

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 NO way its going MP lol maybe different games later on in the mass effect world after all they did flat out say there would be games later on after the trilogy. They said ME3 would be out around same time frame or less as ME-ME2 was. That is NOT enough time to take the last game into the MP world. More than likely this is the gateway for after the trilogy and the likely case. Once the main story is done the trilogy complete they could open up a fourth game into a MP. Joining different factions, playing as different races and their various groups... makes the mass effect world really open up. This would be fine with me as long as they keep the trilogy out of MP and as it is. However from them saying this Im positive game 4 will be MP, maybe even MMORPG

BUT PLZ KEEP ME3 away from MP Image IPB


It's going to be for the games that come after the trilogy more than likely! Still a scare but I could see it playing in nicely so long as they don't touch ME3 which I doubt they will for many reasons. BW stated that the third game was going to be much like ME2 with layout and game design in one of their interviews (not much will change). So no worries! People are just "jumping the gun" and forgot that simple fact there WILL be games after the main trilogy. A MMORPG could let ppl explore the mass effect universe in many different ways. Like maybe be an Asari archeologist and explore old ruins for an example. I'm completely against them touching ME3 with MP, but After the trilogy like ME4 to say this could be a promising idea.Image IPB

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This better either be for some kind of optional DLC or for a spin-off game. Multiplayer has no place in the original trilogy, IMO. A waste of time and resources that could be better spent making ME3 as good as it can be with as much variations and consequences as possible. Considering they want to get it out in the same time frame as ME2 arrived in and how lacklustre the game was in how it handled things like import consequences and sidequests, this doesn't give me much confidence in the third game... if its true.

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Well the job add pretty much sums it up. There will be a Mass Effect game with a multiplayer component. We just can't be sure if its ME3 yet.

As I recall , Bioware Montreal had "super secret projects" in development (http://www.gamedaily...n-mass-effect-2).

Also there is the "far reaching" thingie ( http://www.joystiq.c...t-in-early-201/ ). If you're going to release ME3 in that date, then why not just say so?

So there's is hope that is a separate proyect. (I would'nt mind an optional squad co-op for ME3 tho.)

RTS? Squad Shooter? the long-awaited The Sims: Mass Effect Romance Pack?

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Multi-player?? Please don't f*** this game up Bioware. Oh well, at least, I'll have the first two. Especially the original.

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I have faith that they aren't referring to ME3 but a later ME title -- whatever that is.



That being said, I will never understand why it seems so hard for some developers to know if a game fits as a MP experience. ME is purely a single-player, story-driven experience. It was never intended to go the MP route. That'd be like dividing by zero.



BioWare, I am trusting you on this one...

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You know that big Mass Effect franchise announcement that's supposed to surface next year?



Yeah, I think this is why they're looking for someone.

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Let's hope this is not for ME3. There's no need for a tacked on multiplayer, it would only turn ME even more into Gears of War.



It's not like they can bring all those shooter fanboys to leave their Call of Duty behind for a Mass Effect shooter. As much as EA would like this, it simply isn't going to happen. And then they've put in millions to develop a multiplayer portion that will probably be played for only 3 months. Seriously, how many people are playing BioShock 2 multiplayer on a daily basis?

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LPPrince wrote...

You know that big Mass Effect franchise announcement that's supposed to surface next year?

Yeah, I think this is why they're looking for someone.

It's just ridiculous. I don't see what's wrong with keeping everything as is. The franchise is already fantastic at this point. But they're slowly ruining it, it would appear. Last week it was a movie. This week it's MP. What's next? A college course? 

Like I said earlier, I am totally trusting BioWare on this one. If they want to make more money, they can look into other games.

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I have no idea why everyone is so up in arms if ME3 has a MP mode or component to it that is separate from the single player experience. I mean really, as long as the quality of the single player component of the game is not compromised by adding a MP component, then why should you care? If the quality was the same or above what you expected then why keep complaining about a MP mode - how about simply not playing it?

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matt30822 wrote...

I have no idea why everyone is so up in arms if ME3 has a MP mode or component to it that is separate from the single player experience. I mean really, as long as the quality of the single player component of the game is not compromised by adding a MP component, then why should you care? If the quality was the same or above what you expected then why keep complaining about a MP mode - how about simply not playing it?


That's the problem. Usually when a multiplayer mode is added to the equation, the singleplayer mode suffers.
Less resources, lesser designated workforce, less space on the final product for a comprehensive singleplayer experience.

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Can't complain about it really, if you don't like the Multiplayer it might have then don't play it, just please, if you're going to add it in, work on it after you've finished the Campaign.

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matt30822 wrote...

I have no idea why everyone is so up in arms if ME3 has a MP mode or component to it that is separate from the single player experience. I mean really, as long as the quality of the single player component of the game is not compromised by adding a MP component, then why should you care?


Oh god dammit, not this again.

1) No matter how many retards claim ME2 combat is the same as in Gears of War, it's not. It's not real time. Anything that isn't real time is a very poor fit for multiplayer. So the combat system would have to be completely changed to accommodate the multiplayer. Those of us who aren't complete retards and realize that ME2 actually plays nothing like Gears of War don't want this because we like the combat the way it is now, with tactical pausing and other non-real time features.

2) In almost every game that has a multiplayer mode, the single player mode suffers because resources are diverted away from it for its development. Those of us who play Mass Effect for the story would rather not see resources diverted away from bringing the Shepard trilogy to a satisfying conclusion with ME3.

If this is for a non-Shep ME game, though, I'm totally fine with it. There's plenty of room for other games in the Mass Effect universe, and there's no reason why they all have to be RPGs.

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Have any of you simply thought that it will be for one of the spin offs in the ME universe, after ME3, i'm pritty sure i've herd both Ray Muzyka and Casey Hudson both say that the oringnal ME trilogy, know as shepards story will be single player exclusivly, so stop worring.

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It was bound to happen eventually. It seems that they're listening to the people who've just played the game (and wondered where the multiplazxzxz was) and ignoring those who've been playing the game for years and want to keep it an offline game.

If ME3 does include some form of multiplayer or co op. It better not be scramed with muliplayer only achievements and unlocks, cos those suck.

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If this is for Mass Effect 3 then my response is: "Oh HELL no!"



If it's for some other game set in the ME universe, then I am okay with it.



The "core trilogy" is a narrative. Multiplayer has no place there, just like it has no place in Bioshock (and yet for some unknown but flabbergasting reason, they thought they should add it).

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LiquidGrape wrote...

That's the problem. Usually when a multiplayer mode is added to the equation, the singleplayer mode suffers.
Less resources, lesser designated workforce, less space on the final product for a comprehensive singleplayer experience.


You mean like Half-Life 1 and 2 or System Shock 2 suffered?

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KitsuneRommel wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

That's the problem. Usually when a multiplayer mode is added to the equation, the singleplayer mode suffers.
Less resources, lesser designated workforce, less space on the final product for a comprehensive singleplayer experience.


You mean like Half-Life 1 and 2 or System Shock 2 suffered?


Read: usually.
Also, the latter isn't a fair comparison, considering SS2 wasn't nearly as narratively dense as any installation in the ME franchise.
The inclusion of more players didn't damage the experience because they were integrated into the singleplayer, rather than tacked onto the product like a separate being.

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LiquidGrape wrote...

KitsuneRommel wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

That's the problem. Usually when a multiplayer mode is added to the equation, the singleplayer mode suffers.
Less resources, lesser designated workforce, less space on the final product for a comprehensive singleplayer experience.


You mean like Half-Life 1 and 2 or System Shock 2 suffered?


Read: usually.
Also, the latter isn't a fair comparison, considering SS2 wasn't nearly as narratively dense as any installation in the ME franchise.
The inclusion of more players didn't damage the experience because they were integrated into the singleplayer, rather than tacked onto the product like a separate being.

If there's anyone who can imitate Valve's success, it's BioWare.

Of course, as many people have said already, this might not even be for Mass Effect 3. They started development on Mass Effect 3 about 6 months ago (or even further back), wouldn't they have started searching for a multiplayer programmer back then?

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I hope I'm not the only person hoping for a bit of a return to Enemy Territory style class-and-objective oriented multiplayer with Mass Effect: First Contact.



There's no way this is an ME3-related posting. WAY too late in the game to be only now hiring someone to work on multiplayer.

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would be ****in retarded if they turned it into a mmo before the story finished like gay ****s blizard did with the warcraft story. Fare enough if you wanna make a mmo from the lore but dont use the god damn story that never concluded from the single player games!!!