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[bjdbwea]

sanadawarrior wrote...

Baldur's Gate II had co-op multiplayer, so I dont get what the big deal is since Im sure everyone will agree that game is far more RPGish than ME ever was.

Good point, but back then BioWare was independent and spent the time needed to do everything (close to) perfectly, that's why BG 2 turned out to be the masterpiece that it is until today. Had they treated BG 2 with the same attitude as ME 2, it would never have been as amazing. But since they have this different approach now, and since the time until ME 3 seems again quite short, they simple have to concentrate on the important aspects.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 30 mai 2010 - 04:17 .

[TheGreenLion]

I vote no on a Mass Effect MMO, the one thing I despised about WoW (not that it took ungodly amounts of time to do anything worthwhile) was that there were people everywhere blabbing about something idiotic and unrelated most of the time. I suppose MMOs have their niche to fill, but I get tired of the immature minds that inhabit MMOs. If they do it, I'd hope they take the time to consider advancing the time table of when this MMO takes place so you can have fresh ground to work with and it won't interfere with Shepard's story. Still, don't think I'd buy the MMO till the first wave of crazy people get to test and review it.

[Firesteel]

TheGreenLion wrote...

I vote no on a Mass Effect MMO, the one thing I despised about WoW (not that it took ungodly amounts of time to do anything worthwhile) was that there were people everywhere blabbing about something idiotic and unrelated most of the time. I suppose MMOs have their niche to fill, but I get tired of the immature minds that inhabit MMOs. If they do it, I'd hope they take the time to consider advancing the time table of when this MMO takes place so you can have fresh ground to work with and it won't interfere with Shepard's story. Still, don't think I'd buy the MMO till the first wave of crazy people get to test and review it.

Ever played EVE ONLINE?
If Bioware made a Mass Effect MMO similar to that, but slightly less complex controls, I would be all in (Space battles ftw!)

[Beastfoot]

charmingcharlie wrote...

If ME3 even so much as carries a mere whiff of MP then I will call it a day with Mass Effect even if that means I never get to finish the story.

I don't mind if they want to do a SEPARATE game set in the Mass Effect universe with MP but god no leave the Mass Effect series MP free please. I bought ME and ME 2 because they were excellent single player experiences and I do not want the third one to be anything but an excellent single player experience.

Still all I can do is vote with my wallet and I will certainly do that if you add MP into Mass Effect 3

This - and if they do that, to me Bioware will become Biowho???

[KalosCast]

Firesteel7 wrote...

TheGreenLion wrote...

I vote no on a Mass Effect MMO, the one thing I despised about WoW (not that it took ungodly amounts of time to do anything worthwhile) was that there were people everywhere blabbing about something idiotic and unrelated most of the time. I suppose MMOs have their niche to fill, but I get tired of the immature minds that inhabit MMOs. If they do it, I'd hope they take the time to consider advancing the time table of when this MMO takes place so you can have fresh ground to work with and it won't interfere with Shepard's story. Still, don't think I'd buy the MMO till the first wave of crazy people get to test and review it.

Ever played EVE ONLINE?
If Bioware made a Mass Effect MMO similar to that, but slightly less complex controls, I would be all in (Space battles ftw!)

So it can take 30 hours to turn in a fetch-quest only to get podded on jump away from your destination by some **** who doesn't have a job and can spend the billions of hours to get all the best stuff? No thanks.

[MassEffect762]

Seems they're heading that why regardless.



KOTOR to MMO = TOR



ME to 2/3 shooter 1/3 role playing = ME2

[SomeBug]

Stinkface27 wrote...

SomeBug wrote...

CHT87 wrote...

If it´s in ME3 and the single-player experience suffers from it --> NO! + No more BW games will be purchased, only torrented, rapidshared and so on.

They could make an extra DVD for it or do it like Assassins Creed. I don´t care for that.

You are a reprehensible human being. I feel embarassed for you to say such a thing with any taint of pride.

.......

Say what? Are you trying to sound profound or something? That just sounded ridiculous.

The idea that it is somehow OK to steal a game just because it doesn't match up to your pre-conceived ideals is indeed reprehensible. Whether that poster was saying he would do it himself or commenting on the public reaction is irrelevant.

[superimposed]

Actually, it is important to know what he was talking about because right now you've made a bull**** claim. He was not promoting the action at all, and where you got the from must be somewhere in your small intestine.

[Quintega]

I find it odd when people hear multiplayer they assume mmo or entire game modification. Look even if they throw in co op I doubt it would be severe as this is the story of Commander shepard not the Normandys crew and all alliance. I say relax for all we know it might just be an idea that gets scrapped or might be restricted just to help when you need to break into teams so the AI isn't forced to make decisions like kill the salarian.



Look Guys relax muliplayer could also just be a crappy minigame I've played games since 1992 and I can tell you Most multiplayer is restrictive plus it is VERY VERY VERY difficult to do in an advanced RPG like this with out heavy sacrifice or restriction.



Look They want to make the final "Book" of shepards life an epic they would not sacrifice it with such a big gamble. Plus I'm pretty sure they are reading the forums for ideas.

[pkmn]

PLEASE add multiplayer. It was what ME1 and 2 were missing.

To you friendless guys who are against multiplayer: YOU CAN STILL PLAY SINGLE PLAYER. ADDING MULTIPLAYER DOES NOT AFFECT YOU AT ALL. It just lets us people with friends share the experience.

[Quintega]

Actually it does affect the game the kind of multiplayer your talking about would sacrifice the story due to capacity limit on game data before its to big to play. And you are assuming they are friendless you shouldn't do that its rude and immature. I have more freinds they you would think or assume. I just believe RPGs should be one or the other if both the multiplayer needs to have a lot of shackles on it. If Tales of symphonia had been full blown multiplayer it would have sucked instead it is restricted.

Just cause CO op is a fad doesn't mean a game needs is. Please be respectful

This was to the guy before fabulous

Modifié par Quintega, 30 mai 2010 - 08:31 .

[Chaos-fusion]

pkmn wrote...

ADDING MULTIPLAYER DOES NOT AFFECT YOU AT ALL.

Except the money and time they spend on hiring programmers, technology, dedicated servers (if they choose to bother) etc. is money and time that's being taken away from the single player part. So.. Yes, it does.

Modifié par Chaos-fusion, 30 mai 2010 - 08:42 .

[Stinkface27]

SomeBug wrote...

Stinkface27 wrote...

SomeBug wrote...

CHT87 wrote...

If it´s in ME3 and the single-player experience suffers from it --> NO! + No more BW games will be purchased, only torrented, rapidshared and so on.

They could make an extra DVD for it or do it like Assassins Creed. I don´t care for that.

You are a reprehensible human being. I feel embarassed for you to say such a thing with any taint of pride.

.......

Say what? Are you trying to sound profound or something? That just sounded ridiculous.

The idea that it is somehow OK to steal a game just because it doesn't match up to your pre-conceived ideals is indeed reprehensible. Whether that poster was saying he would do it himself or commenting on the public reaction is irrelevant.

I really don't think he was saying that he condones anything like that, but it is a sadly valid point. Pointing out something ugly that takes place doesn't make you guilty of it. Or do you think news reporters are reprehensible also?

The truth is, there are LOTS of people who feel like they're entitled to a game that is exactly how they want it, no ifs ands or buts. If there is a drop too much DRM, or if there is a facet to the game they don't like, they tell themselves they are justified in pirating it. There are also people who aren't even trying to make a statement about the game, they just can't be bothered paying for things.

I agree that it sucks, but don't take it out on the guy who brought it up.

[Quintega]

I think limited co op would be the only thing possible

[pkmn]

It was insulting that ME1 and 2 didn't have multiplayer. A squad based shooter should have multiplayer, and they would have been much more fun if they did.



Despite what you people would like to believe, games can be fun single player AND multiplayer. Go play Baldur's Gate 2 - great single player game, made more fun with multiplayer.



It doesn't diminish the experience for you people who wish to play alone at all. I'm sure plenty of people in this thread had a lot of fun playing Baldur's Gate 2 single player.... those of us with friends had fun playing it over multiplayer.

[Quintega]

Wow your facts are way off first this game isn't a TPS its an RPG ROLE PLAYING GAME its a futuristic rpg. and you don't know why RPGs like Morrowind Oblivion, Fallout, Secret of mana, Illusion of Gaia, Tales of Symphonia, Soul Blazer, Terranigma, and so on and the thousands there are legends. Its because they are single player ROLE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES are ment for the player to control the story based on actions. A TPS Third person shooter, Would focus on a story that has been lane before you no variation based on play minus the things that don't effect the story.

It does The better the game the more time money and man power it takes. IF a full blown MP was added it would severely demising the game play and for you information Bualders gate is mprpg

but let look at the amount of disks first shall we


Waisted resources would not function on a system too much IMO

next a game screen you would never see in an epic RPG *An epic is the correct usage as it is a noun*



wow nice game screen *sarcasm*


I assume this is actual footage of a quest?



pkmn

Learn your place if you gonna be a gamer and keep up with the veterans who have been playing long before you were born back when we were outcasts.

DO you research and learn the definition of time and money

Also if its an insult why did you play the second one if the first one pissed you off. Second why did you play the first on. ON THE BOX IT SAYS ONE PLAYER

Those images I posted are an example of a different game engine being used to support multiplayer second the game is a MPrpg  multiplayer rpg. NOt an mmo or standard rpg. I don't doubt bualders gate is good but your getting your facts mixed up

Modifié par Quintega, 30 mai 2010 - 10:41 .

[MarchWaltz]

Mulitplayer, to me, usually means half-assed single player experience



But Bioware is better than that.



I hope.



Maybe we are over-reacting?

[Quintega]

no Bioware wants to know our opinions other wise this forum would have closed long ago.

[sanadawarrior]

@ Quintega

I dont get your argument about Baldur's Gate II. Are you trying to say that it is not a single player rpg? Because if you are you simply have no idea what you are talking about. The Baldur's Gate series pretty much saved single player epic rpgs on pc in an age when all we were getting was bug filled messes like Daggerfall and was so succesfull it spawned other games using the same engine such as Planescape Torment, and the Icewind Dale series. I played Baldur's Gate II when I was in highschool and let me tell you that I still feel it is one of biowares best, definately better than KotOR, Jade Empire, and Dragon Age and on par with ME and ME2.

Edit: about your time and money bit... The main quest + all side quests in BGII could take up to 200 hours, I remember it took me 2 months or so just to beat it once...

Edit 2: also your game cases picture is from Baldur's Gate II but your gameplay screens are from the original Baldur's Gate( and the first one seems to be in german or something), not that there is much of a difference just pointing that out.

Modifié par sanadawarrior, 30 mai 2010 - 11:45 .

[Khayness]

That's a nice looking box of BG saga you got there, mine is a crappy generic looking, I hate it

The Baldur's Gate Compilation deserves a leather case edition with a huge steel Bhaal symbol on it!

[legend of kane]

no! no! NO! Mass Effect 3 better not go multiplayer, if they want to do it in a new ME game after the
trilogy, go ahead. But don't screw the trilogy up!! Either the multiplayer will suffer OR the single
player will suffer as a result of the added multiplayer. Please Bioware don't do it!

In ME 3 we are expecting a blending of what made ME 1 a flawed masterpiece and ME 2 a super shooter.
Adding multiplayer on top of that means adding something new and UNTESTED to the formula.

Unless, this is all for a future ME game after the trilogy is done, if thats the case, then i say go for it.

Modifié par legend of kane, 31 mai 2010 - 12:15 .

[Quintega]

No I wasn't implying it wasn't two those are off photobucket. I don't deny it or confirm it I just hate people who don't know the fact that games are very time consuming to make and every one in game was a minimum 3 hours to make. He used baldurs gate as an example. My argument was a game like that is heavy pc based an very unlikely to make it on a console. Plus I did enjoy arena and daggerfall the glitches weren't that hard to fix for the most part but the tons of patches you needed to download drove me nuts.

what I was saying is if your gonna use a game make sure it backs up your argument. The diference between an multiplayer and a massive multiplayer, a MM lacks almost all single player while mp is based on single player I was showing he was contradicting himself. The guy claimed it was multiplayer based not single based I was showing him or trying to that he has years to go.

Sadly thats not mine I use mac but I get angry when certian people give total disregard to how much work is put into these games and that if you can't even get the genre right you shouldn't argue over it.

I am going to assume since I havent played that the MP ability in buldersgate is very restrictive

Edit at the bottom I was commenting how he was "infuriated" that mE 1 and two were not multiplayer and how stupid he was for not reading the box which says 1 player only

Edit 2 I could argue you about the RPG saving thing but I don't feel like it thats not what this forum is about and that is opinion 

Edit 3 As for time and money I wasn't talking player I was talking about the company heck it took 4-5 years to produce morrowind and daggerfall was the only elderscroll with those problems others came out with out much problem

Modifié par Quintega, 31 mai 2010 - 12:08 .

[sanadawarrior]

Actualy the MP in baldur's gate was not restrictive at all, you just played out the single player campaign with other people taking up the spots that npc's usualy would, with the host also controling any npcs that were in the party. I only played online a few times on gamespy but it was great fun. Reguardless I agree with you mostly now that you cleared up your points.