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[jonnyblueballs]

Modifié par jonnyblueballs, 07 juin 2010 - 03:37 .

[jonnyblueballs]

jonnyblueballs wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

jonnyblueballs wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

I'd rather have J.J. Abrams direct an ME movie than James Cameron.

:sick:No no no no no no no no no absolutely not! We don't need Mass Effect turned into Star Wars prequels like happened with Star Trek.

James Cameron sure as **** beats the **** out of Abrams. Haven't seen Avatar but at least Cameron showed enormous vision and perfectionism in the Terminators and Aliens. Not that i want him to direct this as i don't even want the movie made. But if will be made, you should dream they could get Cameron, which they won't.

I don't think you've actually explained why you think Abrams would be a bad idea. Typically JJ Abram's forte is a habit of making the fantastical into something more plausible, and that is precisely what the ME movie needs.

Admittedly, James Cameron has a habit of doing the same thing, but generally Abrams tends to be slightly more willing to work with established IPs rather than strictly make their own ones.

And what on earth was wrong with the Star Trek movie? This isn't another one of these 'wah wah wah there were too many explosions and too many people liked it it's not star trek star trek is only for us diehard fans' cliches, is it?

I don't think Abrams made Star Trek plausible at all. I mean, Captain Spock keeps flipping out at the slightest provocation, there's suddenly a supernova that can waste the whole galaxy in our very own Milky Way, and everybody from the new timeline magically ends up in the same ship as in the original timeline which makes me feel like i'm watching LOST... it's like **** it, let's have Kirk accidentally run into old Spock and Scotty in completely different circumstances than in the original timeline, **** the odds. It's like Abrams realized with LOST that you can feed any kind of astronomically unlikely plot convenience to the audience and chalk it up to destiny, and those idiots will eat it up. It's almost like personal insult to me. And Kirk is a troublemaking **** now. That's the kind of injustice i don't want to see. He wouldn't do justice to Mass Effect, and he certainly doesn't have the accomplishments Cameron does, so i don't get why Cameron gets **** and Abrams is #1. And no i ain't no diehard Star Trek fan either.

Sorry for the rant, you asked:innocent:

Modifié par jonnyblueballs, 07 juin 2010 - 04:07 .

[RenownedRyan]

Mr. California wrote...

I say J.J Abrums ,I think his star trek was magnificent.

Keyboard solo?  JJ ABRAMS!

[Onyx Jaguar]

Star Trek = Lost?



I knew it.



Awesome

[ShadyKat]

JJ Abrams is insanely overrated. IMO, Cameron is the better directer, he's just not a great writer. If someone else wrote the ME movie and he directs i'm all good.

[KalosCast]

Shyamalan is more credible than Abrams. With James Cameron on board, at least it won't be a total failure even if it takes him 11 years to get the damn thing on the screen.

[Lord Exar]

I, personally, don't want Cameron. I don't want Abrams, either. I think Neill Blomkamp would be the perfect fit for Mass Effect. He's new and while District 9 was a hit, he's not a household name. Mass Effect needs a quality director who won't overshadow the actors or story and I think Blomkamp is that guy.

[KalosCast]

Lord Exar wrote...

I, personally, don't want Cameron. I don't want Abrams, either. I think Neill Blomkamp would be the perfect fit for Mass Effect. He's new and while District 9 was a hit, he's not a household name. Mass Effect needs a quality director who won't overshadow the actors or story and I think Blomkamp is that guy.

District 9 definitely did balance world-building well with action... though the end kind of became an improbably shooting gallery.

[Lord Exar]

KalosCast wrote...

Lord Exar wrote...

I, personally, don't want Cameron. I don't want Abrams, either. I think Neill Blomkamp would be the perfect fit for Mass Effect. He's new and while District 9 was a hit, he's not a household name. Mass Effect needs a quality director who won't overshadow the actors or story and I think Blomkamp is that guy.

District 9 definitely did balance world-building well with action... though the end kind of became an improbably shooting gallery.

Agreed, but I think there will be moments in the Mass Effect movie where insane shootouts will be essential.  If Blomkamp is one of those directors that learns from his previous works...y'know what I mean?

[KalosCast]

Lord Exar wrote...

KalosCast wrote...

Lord Exar wrote...

I, personally, don't want Cameron. I don't want Abrams, either. I think Neill Blomkamp would be the perfect fit for Mass Effect. He's new and while District 9 was a hit, he's not a household name. Mass Effect needs a quality director who won't overshadow the actors or story and I think Blomkamp is that guy.

District 9 definitely did balance world-building well with action... though the end kind of became an improbably shooting gallery.

Agreed, but I think there will be moments in the Mass Effect movie where insane shootouts will be essential.  If Blomkamp is one of those directors that learns from his previous works...y'know what I mean?

Well, if they do a wholly faithful recreation of the main plot, it'll be roughly 75% balls to the wall action scenes and we'll all exit the theatre wondering "wasn't it yesterday when we came in?"

So I guess Blomkamp and Peter Jackson should tag team this one.

[staldore13]

Neill Bomkamp or ridley scott could do better



Cameron didnt really do that great a job with Avatar in my opinion

the movie was Meh

didnt deserve to be nominated for best picture really

[Zero9999]

I'd go for Christopher Nolan (Batman Returns, Dark Knight, The Prestige, Inception, Memento) with that nice dark undertone to everything.



Second choice would be Irvin Kershner (The Empire Strikes Back), need I say more?



And for the people who complain Avatar is just Ferngully, Pocahantas, The Last Samurai or Dances with Wolves all over again should really take a look at Lord of The Rings and Star Wars.

[Alex_SM]

Second choice would be Irvin Kershner (The Empire Strikes Back), need I say more?

Are you serious? this guy is retired since more than 15 years ago. And his last movie was Robocop 2

[Lord Exar]

Zero9999 wrote...

And for the people who complain Avatar is just Ferngully, Pocahantas, The Last Samurai or Dances with Wolves all over again should really take a look at Lord of The Rings and Star Wars.

What are you talking about?  Star Wars and Lord of the Rings, aside from being a trilogy, have next to nothing in common.  Now that I think of it, people should really scrutinize Back to the Future and Star Wars...they're both futuristic and they're both trilogies!  
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[Zero9999]

Lord Exar wrote...

Zero9999 wrote...

And for the people who complain Avatar is just Ferngully, Pocahantas, The Last Samurai or Dances with Wolves all over again should really take a look at Lord of The Rings and Star Wars.

What are you talking about?  Star Wars and Lord of the Rings, aside from being a trilogy, have next to nothing in common.  Now that I think of it, people should really scrutinize Back to the Future and Star Wars...they're both futuristic and they're both trilogies!  
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Simple hero with no knolwedge of the greater world receives an artifact of power from an older mentor figure who while thought to be crazy by the world at large is far more than he appears to be. The hero has an event that forces him out of his comfort zone at home and into the world at large. Older mentor sacrifices himself. Hero finds the courage to carry on eventually mastering his fate. Yeah, no similarities between Star Wars and LoTR.

Sigh, just read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth

[JKoopman]

Zero9999 wrote...

Lord Exar wrote...

Zero9999 wrote...

And for the people who complain Avatar is just Ferngully, Pocahantas, The Last Samurai or Dances with Wolves all over again should really take a look at Lord of The Rings and Star Wars.

What are you talking about?  Star Wars and Lord of the Rings, aside from being a trilogy, have next to nothing in common.  Now that I think of it, people should really scrutinize Back to the Future and Star Wars...they're both futuristic and they're both trilogies!  
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Simple hero with no knolwedge of the greater world receives an artifact of power from an older mentor figure who while thought to be crazy by the world at large is far more than he appears to be. The hero has an event that forces him out of his comfort zone at home and into the world at large. Older mentor sacrifices himself. Hero finds the courage to carry on eventually mastering his fate. Yeah, no similarities between Star Wars and LoTR.

Sigh, just read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth

The difference being that you can't take the script, simply change the character names around and have it be the exact same movie like you can with Pocahontas and Avatar.

[Lord Exar]

Zero9999 wrote...

Lord Exar wrote...

Zero9999 wrote...

And for the people who complain Avatar is just Ferngully, Pocahantas, The Last Samurai or Dances with Wolves all over again should really take a look at Lord of The Rings and Star Wars.

What are you talking about?  Star Wars and Lord of the Rings, aside from being a trilogy, have next to nothing in common.  Now that I think of it, people should really scrutinize Back to the Future and Star Wars...they're both futuristic and they're both trilogies!  
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Simple hero with no knolwedge of the greater world receives an artifact of power from an older mentor figure who while thought to be crazy by the world at large is far more than he appears to be. The hero has an event that forces him out of his comfort zone at home and into the world at large. Older mentor sacrifices himself. Hero finds the courage to carry on eventually mastering his fate. Yeah, no similarities between Star Wars and LoTR.

Sigh, just read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth

I'm well aware of the "Hero's Journey".  That's the point, you're talking about general themes that are prevalent throughout fiction and is not exclusive to either Star Wars or Lord of the Rings.  It belongs to Perseus, King Arthur, and Sigurd just as much as to Luke and Frodo.  Would you, with a clear conscience, say the story of Perseus and Sigurd are the same?

What I'm saying is that both the Lord of the Rings and Star Wars draw from mythology and, sure, that's what makes both stories great, but to compare their similarities and the similarities of Avatar and Pocahontas is not the same.  I'm not bashing Avatar, but I think it's story was far less inspired then either Star Wars or Lord of the Rings.