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[Sigma Tauri]

Wiggs Magee wrote...
That its plot was exactly the same as Pocahontus in the future. And did he do that intentionally?

Ughhh, yeah? The movie had a message.

[Mr. California]

Yup and that message is Jake Sully is a trader ,screw the corprate D bag that ran **** in Avitar lets take the military back and make Jake pay for his crime aginst humanity

Modifié par Mr. California, 29 mai 2010 - 11:26 .

[MrNose]

Ridley Scott & John Woo co-directing.

Mr. California wrote...

Yup and that message is Jake Sully is a trader ,screw the corprate D bag that ran **** in Avitar lets take the military back and make Jake pay for his crime aginst humanity

I didn't realize that Sully was a trader, I thought he was marine.  Huh........................ 

[Onyx Jaguar]

Even though James Cameron has directed some of the finest Science Fiction movies ever made, they could do more if they did not have a leftist message in them (see Abyss, see Avatar) as he is not good at doing that (A Scanner Darkly for instance was much better at this). So I would not want to see Mass Effect being used as a political platform, Mass Effect needs to pull away from Star Trek anyway.

[Series5Ranger]

Slidell505 wrote...

Because the only reason Avatar was a success was because of the 3-D gimmick. In reality it was Pocahontas in space.

Actually it was Dances with Wolves in Space

[Alexandus]

James Cameron's Mass Effect would be a disaster. I can see it now...



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<Movie Starts>



Batarian: Humans are all bad!

Asari: Yes! Lets kill them while the audience cheers the slaughter of their own kind!

Turian: Humans are all racist! ATTACK!



<Image of James Cameron flicks onto the screen> "Vote Communism" <Subliminal Message Ends>



<Aliens attack the Human Alliance while the audience claps>

Progressive member of the audience: "Yes Asari! Kill those humans good! Uh-huh that's what I'm talking about"

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[Mr. California]

Iwould think James camron is more socialist then comunist in fact dose anybody these days suport comunism better yet dose any body still practice it?

[Onyx Jaguar]

Nobody practiced Communism, only Socialist Dictatorships. Communism is near impossible to implement as it is too idealistic and lame.

[Alexandus]

Mr. California wrote...

Iwould think James camron is more socialist then comunist in fact dose anybody these days suport comunism better yet dose any body still practice it?

*shrugs* Communism is an extreme degree of Socialism. James Cameron is rather extreme thus I think the latter term is best described by the Former term.

Question you asked: "in fact dose anybody these days suport comunism better yet dose any body still practice it?"
Answer: America has a minor political party called the Communist Party. Countries afflicted by communism to this day: Cuba, China, North Korea, and other minor countries.

Anyway, enough about politics, we're talking about James Cameron and his obsession with blue people killing us.

[Mr. California]

Ah yea i forgot about korea. But yea back to James Cameron

[cruc1al]

Throw_this_away wrote...

Eddo36 wrote...

George Lucas?

god please please no. 

It would ensure a huge budget... and a terrible movie. 

It would ensure the movie has no protagonist. Like star wars ep. 1 and 2.

[Darth Drago]

So much anti James Cameron here… lol.

Like I mentioned a few pages back its so very unlikely he would do the Mass Effect movie since he’s already working on Battle Angel and going to be working on Avatar 2 likely after that.


Go down the list to his Director list. Who knows what involvement he will have in those listed under "In Development" at the top of the list as well.   
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000116/

Modifié par Darth Drago, 30 mai 2010 - 01:55 .

[Gundar3]

Series5Ranger wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Because the only reason Avatar was a success was because of the 3-D gimmick. In reality it was Pocahontas in space.

Actually it was Dances with Wolves in Space

This, the story was nothing special and th overall plotline wev seen several times before.  Avatar had nice graphics and good voice acting... That was about it.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Christopher Nolan should direct Mass Effect, or **** it, JJ Abrams

[Mr. California]

Yea i said JJ Abrums from the begining.

[TheSeventhJedi]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Christopher Nolan should direct Mass Effect, or **** it, JJ Abrams

Ooooh, forgot about Nolan.  That would be nice.

[InvaderErl]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Even though James Cameron has directed some of the finest Science Fiction movies ever made, they could do more if they did not have a leftist message in them (see Abyss, see Avatar) as he is not good at doing that (A Scanner Darkly for instance was much better at this). So I would not want to see Mass Effect being used as a political platform, Mass Effect needs to pull away from Star Trek anyway.

A fellow A Scanner Darkly fan!?!

Mr. California wrote...

Yea district 9 wasnt the greatist
movie i think the main charecter killed the move ,dude was a
twack.

See, that's what we call a three-dimensional character with depth. Wikus is a flawed but believable character.

Jake and Avatar by extension was a movie about playing into and ultimately assauging white guilt.

See, its okay. There are bad white people but here's a good noble white person teaching the ignorant but comically harmonious savages to FIGHT.

Please.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 30 mai 2010 - 02:53 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

Yes that was its problem. Films often contain messages but if its overt it seems kind of silly. A Scanner Darkly on the other hand, while it did have a bit of a societal message in regards to drugs and the war on drugs, did not do so at its detriment.



I liked Avatar, but the whole

See, its okay. There are bad white people but here's a good noble white person teaching the ignorant but comically harmonious savages to FIGHT.

Seemed silly.



Also for being that guys first film role (District 9) proved that he had waaaaaaaaaay more acting talent than they guy who played Jake Sully, and I thought that character is what made the film, while Avatar, as mentioned previously that main character kind of like was ehhhhhhhhhhhh



Also to clarify the Abyss reference, it isn't necessarily noticable but if you ever watch the extended version of it, for the most part that film is better until the ending which was pretty much the same "Humans destroy Earth, Humans Evil!" message that Avatar was. Unfortunately Avatar seemed built around this premise so unlike The Abyss it wasn't something you could just edit out.

[Drakron]

Of course movies have messages or they dont work, any story must have some message or it does not work and its just WORDS and LOOK AT THE PRETTY LIGHTS.

[InvaderErl]

Plan 9 from Outer Space had a message too, that doesn't give the movie the right to be lazy.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 30 mai 2010 - 02:41 .

[desonnac00]

The guy who directed District 9 might be a very good choice, he's already proven he knows how to mix action and drama without overdoing it. That's exactly what ME needs... him or M. Night Shayamalang

[2pac Shakur]

InvaderErl wrote...

Plan 9 from Outer Space had a message too, that doesn't give the movie the right to be lazy.

that was a B movie, that didnt count

[jonnyblueballs]

I don't want a movie, it'd be redundant.

[PwnDaddy123]

Three simple words. Uwe ****ing Boll.



Now, before any of you rage at me just for the sake of raging and having no opinion at all, let me explain why Uwe Boll would be the perfect director for the ME movie. First of all, he's the Stanley Kubrick of video game movies. Disagree with me? Sit down and watch Postal. This man has played his video games and he delivers. Trust me.



Still unimpressed? Alone in the Dark. He captures the atmosphere of the game in this one and all I was missing when watching that movie was the game controller, because I felt like I was playing the game. Still unimpressed? Well search up this man's filmotography, he makes video game movies from Bloodrayne to Farcry. Speak to me a in a few decades, his movies are going to be long talked about, this man knows what he's doing.



Now, if we can get him to work on Mass Effect, we can get a very solid film that the fans deserve. And that's what we want right? A good movie. Uwe Boll can take care of that, he's got the video game movie experience no director out there has. Disagree with me? Prove it. I'd like you to show me a director that has half the experience Uwe Boll has. That's what I thought.

[Alexandus]

Drakron wrote...

Of course movies have messages or they dont work, any story must have some message or it does not work and its just WORDS and LOOK AT THE PRETTY LIGHTS.

True, but a less-than-extreme message is useful to avoid shutting out some potential viewers who detest such a view.

For example, James Cameron ties anti-environmentalism to fair skin and capitalism in Avatar. Maybe not blatantly, but implicitly. I know a great many people who refused to see the movie (despite the oooo eye candy special effects) because of the ignorant message it portrayed.

As an eco-capitalist, it annoys me to no end seeing socialist messages piggybacking onto environmentalism. Environmentalism is cost-efficient and logical, it's not limited to one side of the political spectrum.


Star Wars for example has a much broader and more subtle message. James Cameron should take lessons from SW's Episode 4-6. But not 1-3. God forbid. Avatar's bad enough without Jar-Jar showing up to help the blue people.