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Sarah1281

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thegreateski wrote...

You should stick with one side when doing the Orzammar part of the game. There is a potentially game breaking bug if you play both sides.

Isn't that only if you offer to betray both Bhelen and Harrowmont to Dulin and Vartag? 

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Are you looking for the worst outcomes possible in the game? Some choices, like helping Burkel establish the Chantry at Orzammar and making Harrowmont King of Orzammar can lead to horrible outcomes in the epilogue, will not feel like the "evil" choices while playing the game, especially if you are RPing. As a ruthless character, siding with Bhelen in Paragon of Her Kind and preserving the Anvil would be a sensible choice since he uses brute force to get the job done and shows no mercy to his enemies. With Burkel, if your character is the scheming type that wants Burkel to die, then helping him in his quest will make sense. If your character is more hostile/opens his/her mouth without thinking, then telling Burkel to shove his Chantry beliefs up his dwarven *@! will fit nicely.

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Cant play evil I just curl up and feel so sad. THat is why I am a Warrior of Justice, besides villany makes sad pandas


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I did a play through, not really evil, but a female city elf who HATED humans, especially human males. I made decisions that hurt them most. But in it all, somehow she and Leliana fell in love. Wynne also liked and respected my warden for some reason. Alistair hated her, though. When we got to the urn of sacred ashes, she defiled it, and Leliana at 100 love and Wynne at 100 friendly of course attacked, and I'm sure Alistair who was at 100 hostile wished he could throw in with them!

It was a very sad play through. She was such a broken character.

Modifié par ejoslin, 30 mai 2010 - 01:51 .


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Sarah1281 wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

You should stick with one side when doing the Orzammar part of the game. There is a potentially game breaking bug if you play both sides.

Isn't that only if you offer to betray both Bhelen and Harrowmont to Dulin and Vartag? 

Nah. If you get both of the starter quests and do them both then the glitch can occur.

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Can anyone confirm if you can permanetly kill Sten in haven personaly when he challenges you?

Modifié par Last Darkness, 30 mai 2010 - 09:00 .


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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Cant play evil I just curl up and feel so sad. THat is why I am a Warrior of Justice, besides villany makes sad pandas


Haha THIS ^

You might be kidding, but I surprisingly am not! Even when playing my reaver, who was evil, I could not stomach the thought of killing Connor instead of using the blood ritual to save him. The truly evil thing to do would be to let the whole village die, but I didn't know at the time. 

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I thought it would be more evil to just let sten rot in the cage when lothering gets consumed by darkspawn. Proud warrior without his sword or even armor stuck in a foreign land caged like an animal... etc.

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Rhys Cordelle

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I don't think "evil" decisions should be made based on the epilogues. For example, I don't see an evil character siding with Harrowmont or helping the dwarven Brother of the Chantry.

Regarding the dragon cult, yes, you can side with them, defile the ashes, drink some dragon blood to learn the reaper spec, and then talk to their leader and tell them they're too dangerous to be left alive and fight them all. They'll be in two groups, the leader and two guards are close to the entrance of the Gauntlet, and there's a Drake and mages in the area where you can fight the High Dragon.

Since there's a drake there, it's kind of important to do this so that you can get Wades armors.

Modifié par Rhys Cordelle, 31 mai 2010 - 01:27 .


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You could side with Harrowmont if you initially side with Bhelen and honestly believe his insistence that Harrowmont would be a disaster as he's too weak to get anything done. That's evil.

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Since there's a drake there, it's kind of important to do this so that you can get Wades armors.


Not so. The Drake scale from that one is useless, if you have collected all the others in the dungeon.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 31 mai 2010 - 01:39 .


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Rhys Cordelle

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o.O I know there's three Drakes in that room with the eggs, and two ambush you in the large room nearby....where was the sixth?

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Sarah1281

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Isn't there one in the Circle Tower? Or do you not get a scale fromthat one?

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Ooh, I love doing the evil playthroughs! Though it almost broke me to do it for Dragon Age because you're just so darn mean!



In Lothering, be sure to run off the Chantry priestesses harassing the merchant, then kill the guy anyway! Best line in the game: "I hear you're making a killing. Me too!"



In the Nature of the Beast, you can break the curse and then kill the former werewolves anyway! Just ask for a reward from Swiftrunner and then reject his ****ty shield!



My m!Cousland was evil in the romance department in that he three-timed Morrigan, Zevran, and Leliana and ended up marrying Anora while keeping the latter two on as consorts! And this without any mods too (just don't talk to any of them past a certain point!) Lying to Leliana about destroying the Ashes was so loltastic.


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Sarah1281

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Wow, that does sound extremely evil. I don't think I've ever seen several of those options...

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Last Darkness wrote...

Ok so for my next Origens game I want to be the evilest ruthless monster I can possibly be. [...]
Kill Dog, [...]
Landsmeet, as a human noble make yourself king. [...]

You cant kill dog if you're human noble.

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Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

I don't get how anyone evil would want to kill Dog. Here's a creature who lives only to serve his master; you can be as cruel and snippy as you want with him, he'll still love and worship you, and be loyal to you no matter what you do. He is only ever useful and never demands anything in return, ever. He is the best servant anyone could hope to have, especially an evil, self-centered bastard. You can even squeeze money out of the kennel master for saving him.

Err so what ? Evil bastards dont necessarily have the skill to detect willing minions.

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Last Darkness wrote...
[...].  Loghaine though I actualy like him and love his voice actor I think forcing him to be what he hates and condeming him to death as a warden is priceless (All Wardens die either in battle or by their 30th year they become darkspawn) [...]

They never become darkspawn. They *die*. Very painfully. Thats why they instead go slaughtering darkspawn en masse until they die in battle.

I have to say though in not going pure chaotic evil, more Ruthless neutral evil in my game.

I dont get all this discussion of what option is more evil anyway.

Modifié par Gecon, 31 mai 2010 - 11:40 .


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I die a little while playing evil, although I wish there was a line where you could scream:

Here hold my sword for me!

(STAB)

In your GUT!



Rvb wins

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Gecon wrote...

Last Darkness wrote...
[...].  Loghaine though I actualy like him and love his voice actor I think forcing him to be what he hates and condeming him to death as a warden is priceless (All Wardens die either in battle or by their 30th year they become darkspawn) [...]

They never become darkspawn. They *die*. Very painfully. Thats why they instead go slaughtering darkspawn en masse until they die in battle.


Its heavily implied female grey wardens after 30 years start to become Broodmothers and male grey wardens go insane and turn into darkspawn. Read the Wiki
The taint becomes to great to resist at that point and so if they live that long they head to the deep roads to fight until they die aginst the darkspawn. The other option is basicaly to become a Disciple like Utha and a few others did.

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I've discovered that it is much easier doing "evil" choices when doing a solo run. The fear for approval drops from my companions have made it impossible for me earlier. Now I've killed Wynne in the Tower. And it didn't feel bad at all! lol. I will side with the templars and eradicate the mages. I also plan on killing Jowan, so that there simply is no other choice than killing Connor. The only thing that stops me from killing the elves is that my character is a Dalish, so it wouldn't make much sense RP-wise.

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My Dad is playing an evil, arogant little snob of a dwarf and it is so funny. Makes me cry though to be mean, good job Bioware.

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For a really evil character I picked city elf since they seem to have been treated the worst. I wouldn't kill Dog because no matter what you do, say, or act he doesn't care he will always love you besides he loves to lick the blood off of you.



"Things im unsure on....can you sleep with Morrigan at the end to make a baby AND have Loghaine sacrifice himself?"



Yes you can but for Loghain to sacrifice himself Morrigan can't be at the final battle and if you don't choose to take her she will leave but the deed has been done and she should be with child.



The way I have done it is to RP as someone who is totally greedy and selfish. Every thing you do just think of yourself first and never care what happens to anyone else. Don't know if that would be considered the most evil playthrough but it did leave me wanting to take many showers as I felt really dirty.

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Killing your dog doesn't make you evil. It makes you stupid. <_<

Not so many options in this game are evil... I mean you end up being a hero no matter how big of an ass you are. You can be very selfish though and that's what counts.

I would suggest a blood mage since you can do some evil acts while being selfish at the same time. Sacrifice Isolde to enter the fade and then agree to let the demon possess Connor. Not to mention you can wipe out the tower along with the templars. :devil: I think you need a mod for that though..

For other origins Human Nobles can sacrifice Alistair and marry the queen That's pretty selfish. If you're not a HN then make Alistair king without hardening him and ask to be the chancellor.

Modifié par blademaster7, 02 juin 2010 - 08:51 .


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Still need confirmation if you can kill Sten when he challenges you for leadership in haven.