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[Dethateer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't US governmental agencies been breached multiple times just so that the hackers could prove they can?

[pc_wizard]

@invert180: I agree, DRM money is better spent on services that not only increase the value of the game instead of hurting legitimate buyers, but also represent an incentive for those who would pirate the game anyway. I always feel I made a better investment if I buy a game that also has a solid multiplayer experience, a community framework, achievements, that has new content delivered etc.

[Fexelea]

Indeed, and incidents like these make news because of their rarity. Games drm getting hacked is what an individual targetting a governmental agency would think childs play. Unless you think skidrow hackers are the same as those targetting US agencies? (which are not uniform nor have all been breached)

[Dethateer]

I didn't say they have all been breached, only that some have, just for the lulz. Getting your encryption cracked by some college student who isn't even doing it for profit isn't exactly a shining example of "companies being smarter than hackers".

[Costin_Razvan]

Games drm getting hacked is what an individual targetting a governmental agency would think childs play

Quite so....but bypassing the firewalls themselves isn't that hard, as a friend of mine said: "Given enough time, any system can be broken." and we are talking here of systems worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, millions maybe.

What makes hacking a governmental agency so hard, is that there is always a team of IT experts on the other side, monitoring the firewalls.

So, yeah. DRM is a waste of money for companies...unless they want to pour a truckload of it.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 31 mai 2010 - 09:43 .

[Fexelea]

I see, lulz it is then.

Modifié par Fexelea, 31 mai 2010 - 09:53 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Edited: Lulz indeed.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 31 mai 2010 - 09:54 .

[Fexelea]

Go get yours and join our glorious ranks.

[Dethateer]

Fexelea wrote...

I see, lulz it is then.

The hacking was for the lulz.
/lulzkiller mode

[Fexelea]

No, you did it for the lulz.

/lulzenabling mode

[Dethateer]

No, no, no, this can't be! How did you figure me out?

[Fexelea]

It's the power of LULZ! *add old song you know and won't admit to liking music*

[Dethateer]

"She"?

There are no women on the internet, only Partyvan agents!

[Fexelea]

Yes, I'm not a woman, we don't exist.

Come share lulz stories in new thread!

[DragonRageGT]

Modifié par RageGT, 31 mai 2010 - 01:10 .

[hangmans tree]

I have to say them kompenizes should stop being stubborn and admit they 're in the corner, a dead end...step back and follow a better path.
I support companies like CDProjekt (GOG.com, The Witcher). They build their fanbase by quality and great support. They have this peculiar NO DRM policy that should be a model for others.

BTW if the DRM was "uncrackable" companies could juggle freely with the prices as see fit. And consumer would have to suck it up (buy it or weep...). There are always 2 sides of the coin.
Quality sells. So make quality product at a decent price, then most of the piracy problem will be dealt with. I hope

Modifié par hangmans tree, 31 mai 2010 - 01:47 .

[Tirigon]

Symbol117 wrote...

I found this by accident just recently.  According to some articles that have popped up in the the last few days, like this one, Blizzard is saying that trying to battle piracy is largely a waste of time that could be spent on developing a better customer base, content, and features.

I think this is a interesting development.  Not entirely should where this is leading but I think there might be a light at the end of the tunnel.

They are apparently smarter than you would think.

[Tirigon]

invert180 wrote...

The majority of companies already outsource DRM.  That's what names like SecuRom, TAGES, StarForce, and SafeDisc are... copy protection that is designed by other folks, not the game developers themselves.  There are already entire companies are devoted to developing DRM.  But they all get cracked really, really fast.  Guaranteed.

Often (in case of Mass Effect 2, for example) before the game is officially released. I can´t help but being amused by that fact.

[Tirigon]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

This thread is a great thread.

But
what of those people who purchase a game legitimately and download a
cracked version to bypass inconvenient DRM?

Dethateer wrote...

That's still illegal. Just like an amazing number of things nearly everyone does with their games (eg, modding, in most cases).

I do not think so. Afaik cracking is not illegal as long as you don´t share the crack.

[Eurypterid]

Tirigon wrote...


I do not think so. Afaik cracking is not illegal as long as you don´t share the crack.

Depends on the country. In the US, due to the DMCA , it's illegal to bypass the copy protection/DRM. So cracking your game, even if you don't share it, is illegal.