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[Crimmsonwind]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Edit: double post removed.

my bad bro.

just hate when people call me crazy when ever I believe in advanced technology even if it all seem sci fi (cars running on water/h2o, robots, a.i., etc).  *does his crazy man dance* 

Does Major Tom drives a Lincoln Spaceship called the Normandy SR?
B)Commander Shepard 

so what planet are the Asari from again?

Thessia.

[Crimmsonwind]

Tirigon wrote...

Your "facts" are no facts. What Nivenus writes is about lizards and I don´t care for them. Asari are not lizards.

The lizards are just an example of how parthenogenesis works. Just replace the word "lizard" with "asari" and there's your explanation. Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point?

[Tirigon]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

Your "facts" are no facts. What Nivenus writes is about lizards and I don´t care for them. Asari are not lizards.

The lizards are just an example of how parthenogenesis works. Just replace the word "lizard" with "asari" and there's your explanation. Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point?

Are lizards randomizing their genes by establishing a mental link to other species?

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Edit: double post removed.

my bad bro.

just hate when people call me crazy when ever I believe in advanced technology even if it all seem sci fi (cars running on water/h2o, robots, a.i., etc).  *does his crazy man dance* 

Does Major Tom drives a Lincoln Spaceship called the Normandy SR?
B)Commander Shepard 

so what planet are the Asari from again?

Thessia.

Can we visit it during the game?

[Crimmsonwind]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
so what planet are the Asari from again?

Thessia.

Can we visit it during the game?

Nope. Not yet, anyway.

Modifié par Crimmsonwind, 01 juin 2010 - 12:23 .

[Computer_God91]

 

Tirigon wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

Your "facts" are no facts. What Nivenus writes is about lizards and I don´t care for them. Asari are not lizards.

The lizards are just an example of how parthenogenesis works. Just replace the word "lizard" with "asari" and there's your explanation. Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point?

Are lizards randomizing their genes by establishing a mental link to other species?

No, of coarse not, nor did we ever say they did. Lizards are simply an example of parthenogenisis, which is the way Asari reproduce (in their case they use Melding to begin the process of parthenogeneisis). Which makes it possible to have an all female race regardless of mental melding or not.

Modifié par Computer_God91, 01 juin 2010 - 12:25 .

[Computer_God91]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Edit: double post removed.

my bad bro.

just hate when people call me crazy when ever I believe in advanced technology even if it all seem sci fi (cars running on water/h2o, robots, a.i., etc).  *does his crazy man dance* 

Does Major Tom drives a Lincoln Spaceship called the Normandy SR?
B)Commander Shepard 

so what planet are the Asari from again?

Thessia.

Can we visit it during the game?

Nope, maybe in ME3

[Crimmsonwind]

Tirigon wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

Your "facts" are no facts. What Nivenus writes is about lizards and I don´t care for them. Asari are not lizards.

The lizards are just an example of how parthenogenesis works. Just replace the word "lizard" with "asari" and there's your explanation. Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point?

Are lizards randomizing their genes by establishing a mental link to other species?

Not through a mental link, no. But the point is that yes, they do randomize their genes to create a unique offspring that isn't a clone, and they're all female. The mental link is an asari's way of obtaining the second half of the genes to be randomized. The physicality of it at that point is not necessary, but helps. That was the point of the lizard example. That it's possible, and that it exists in the world.

[Computer_God91]

So I'm thinking should I rename this thread to Asari Reproduction?

[Tirigon]

Computer_God91 wrote...


No, of coarse not, nor did we ever say they did. Lizards are simply an example of parthenogenisis, which is the way Asari reproduce (in their case they use Melding to begin the process of parthenogeneisis). Which makes it possible to have an all female race regardless of mental melding or not.

Ok, now I get your point.

Yes, I agree, by your definition you could count Asari as female.


However, I still think it´s a bit ridiculous to have females when there are no males. Why do Asari have to be female? Is being asari not enough?

[Crimmsonwind]

I'm thinking you should rename this "Horrendous circular argument despite scientific facts."

[Computer_God91]

Tirigon wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...


No, of coarse not, nor did we ever say they did. Lizards are simply an example of parthenogenisis, which is the way Asari reproduce (in their case they use Melding to begin the process of parthenogeneisis). Which makes it possible to have an all female race regardless of mental melding or not.

Ok, now I get your point.

Yes, I agree, by your definition you could count Asari as female.


However, I still think it´s a bit ridiculous to have females when there are no males. Why do Asari have to be female? Is being asari not enough?

Maybe, (I'm speculating at this point i have no idea if this is true) in nature females were alone and males came from females. Think about it females produce children how could males come to be? So in the Asari's case males never came to be. That makes some sense to me.

Modifié par Computer_God91, 01 juin 2010 - 12:39 .

[Crimmsonwind]

Also, everyone is born in the womb as female, it's not until a while into the pregnancy that a baby starts to become male. Now obviously this is just for humans, but it could be that the asari never had that male change. They're the closest in appearance to humans.

[Arttis]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Also, everyone is born in the womb as female, it's not until a while into the pregnancy that a baby starts to become male. Now obviously this is just for humans, but it could be that the asari never had that male change. They're the closest in appearance to humans.

id say asaris are a mix of salarians humans turians in physical traits
its just the game devs used a human skele for them.save space or save time instead of creating a new skele.....i could be wrong

[Crimmsonwind]

Arttis wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Also, everyone is born in the womb as female, it's not until a while into the pregnancy that a baby starts to become male. Now obviously this is just for humans, but it could be that the asari never had that male change. They're the closest in appearance to humans.

id say asaris are a mix of salarians humans turians in physical traits
its just the game devs used a human skele for them.save space or save time instead of creating a new skele.....i could be wrong

I don't see the salarian at all. The turians I can see because of the head fringes. But they're virtually human except for the skin color and head fringes, and lack of hair. But we're talking about reproduction wise. You missed a huge conversation.

I don't think they're supposed to actually be a mix of anything, honestly. Each race is different an dunique, they're not designed to be mixes of each other.

[Computer_God91]

Arttis wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Also, everyone is born in the womb as female, it's not until a while into the pregnancy that a baby starts to become male. Now obviously this is just for humans, but it could be that the asari never had that male change. They're the closest in appearance to humans.

id say asaris are a mix of salarians humans turians in physical traits
its just the game devs used a human skele for them.save space or save time instead of creating a new skele.....i could be wrong

I could see why the may have a slight resemblance to turians with the head stuff but how do the look like salarians?

[Crimmsonwind]

yorkj86 wrote...

I would highly advise against trying to make sense of a system of reproduction that only works because of technobabble.  Just saying.

Parthenogenesis is a real form of reproduction, not technobabble. We know exactly how asari reproduce, it was just a matter of proving it.

The only real question is where the baby comes out, but I don't really want to think about that.

[Computer_God91]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

Also, everyone is born in the womb as female, it's not until a while into the pregnancy that a baby starts to become male. Now obviously this is just for humans, but it could be that the asari never had that male change. They're the closest in appearance to humans.

id say asaris are a mix of salarians humans turians in physical traits
its just the game devs used a human skele for them.save space or save time instead of creating a new skele.....i could be wrong

I don't see the salarian at all. The turians I can see because of the head fringes. But they're virtually human except for the skin color and head fringes, and lack of hair. But we're talking about reproduction wise. You missed a huge conversation.

I don't think they're supposed to actually be a mix of anything, honestly. Each race is different an dunique, they're not designed to be mixes of each other.

We must be writing our post at the same time because we have been typing similar responces although your more elaborate then I.

[Computer_God91]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

I would highly advise against trying to make sense of a system of reproduction that only works because of technobabble.  Just saying.

Parthenogenesis is a real form of reproduction, not technobabble. We know exactly how asari reproduce, it was just a matter of proving it.

The only real question is where the baby comes out, but I don't really want to think about that.

My original post proves were the babies exit.

@ yorkj98: did you even read anything before posting, me and Crimmsonwind understand it.

[Computer_God91]

yorkj86 wrote...

It's hard to play a sport when the rules change every game, as is the case with ME1 and ME2.

What's that supposed to mean?

[Crimmsonwind]

yorkj86 wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

I would highly advise against trying to make sense of a system of reproduction that only works because of technobabble.  Just saying.

Parthenogenesis is a real form of reproduction, not technobabble. We know exactly how asari reproduce, it was just a matter of proving it.

The only real question is where the baby comes out, but I don't really want to think about that.

It is technobabble.  You might like to review the past 10 pages or so of the Samara thread.  It's hard to play a sport when the rules change every game, as is the case with ME1 and ME2.

Don't take this the wrong way but, I don't read the Samara thread, so I have no desire to go read through 10 pages of it.

The last two pages in here had pretty compelling evidence that asari parthenogenesis is pretty valid, and possible. Lizards do it, like Nivenus mentioned. I think I'll stick to that line of thought, it makes the most sense to me.

We obviously can't say what is and isn't canon until BioWare sorts out the Mass Effect codex. When ME3 roles around, that's the codex I will stick to. But yeah, this whole theory makes the most sense to me.

[Crimmsonwind]

Computer_God91 wrote...
We must be writing our post at the same time because we have been typing similar responces although your more elaborate then I.

Great minds think alike.

I like to see myself sound smart, that's the only reason I elaborate. Plus I think this all actually makes sense, and I've spent way too much time thinking about this. @_@

Computer_God91 wrote...
My original post proves were the
babies exit.

Haha, true. Mystery solved.

Modifié par Crimmsonwind, 01 juin 2010 - 01:15 .