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[thatguy212]

I just can't make Udina the human councilor

[MarshalMeLee]

Marvin refers to a rather infamous scene in Quentin Tarantino's demented movie Pulp Fiction. I won't lie though, this movie has grown on me with time, rather than merely disgusting me in my younger years.

I'd post a YouTube link but some might not find it appropriate. You can find it if you want to, I'll leave it at that.

Oh on topic, I also can't make Udina the representative, it's always Anderson for me.

Modifié par MarshalMeLee, 01 juin 2010 - 07:51 .

[Massadonious1]

Rat out Mouse.



Pun intended.

[Daerog]

For some reason, I've yet to pull the renegade interrupt on the krogan to blow up the tank and burn him. I usually snap the mercenary's neck on Miranda's loyalty mission, but I'm a sucker for monologues.

Once that krogan went off on the destiny of his clan and the doom of all else, I couldn't press the interupt, such speeches are entertaining as hell to me. Not "oh that is interesting" kind of entertainment but "hahahaha, what an idiot, talk about inflated ego" kind of entertaining. So, I wait, have my laugh, and then fight. The mercenary was just threatening and didn't have a speech prepared.

This is just one example, there are others, most have been posted, I'm not going to bother repeating everything in a list format.

Modifié par DaerogTheDhampir, 01 juin 2010 - 07:53 .

[Ieldra]

I never play all Paragon or all Renegade - too ideological for me. So it's no big matter if I can't make one or the other decision. But they exist:



Some things I find it extremely hard to do:

(1) Destroy the Collector base. You just don't throw away knowledge that could give you an edge, no matter if you don't trust your ally. I did it once to see how it affects Miranda, but I always have to fight the temptation to replay it.

(2) Give the evidence at Tali's trial. No matter if it brings the truth to light, all that political bullsh*t isn't worth traumatizing Tali.

(3) Not use the Renegade interrupt to bring the tank down on the Eclipse at the start of Miranda's loyalty mission. That's the best Renegade interrupt scene in the whole game, the very definition of "badass". And you can use every advantage here, so it's tactically almost compelling.

(4) Not use the Renegade interrupt to shoot the fake "Fade"'s bodyguards. He orders them to shoot, how else would I react?

(5) Kill the batarians when saving Mordin's assistant. Renegade or not, we had a deal, and they hadn't done anything inexcusable yet.

[Nerevar-as]

ME1: only big Renegade choice I could make is capturing Balak over saving the hostages in BdtS. Can´t let Ash die either, don´t like her that much but her death wish to redeem her granpa and the story about her sisters... that family has already been through enough (I also usually hate the Redemption = Death thing, and don´t feel the Williams are the ones to be redeemed).



ME2: Not taking renegade interrupts when it´s obvious there´s going to be a fight anyway. If I´m going to kill somemone anyway take any advantage I can.

[Christmas Ape]

Ieldra2 wrote...
(5) Kill the batarians when saving Mordin's assistant. Renegade or not, we had a deal, and they hadn't done anything inexcusable yet.

They're batarians. Their culture is built on chattel slavery that actually manages to outstrip some of humanity's greatest offenses, and their reaction to finding a lone human is to get ready to torture and murder him.
They wouldn't have hesitated to shoot you if you weren't a heavily armed commando team that would cut them to ribbons.

Every dead batarian is three human lives saved.

What's that? I've never Paragon'd the sick batarian inside the plague zone? You don't say.

Modifié par Christmas Ape, 01 juin 2010 - 10:33 .

[CC-Tron]

nhsk wrote...

CC-Tron wrote...

nhsk wrote...

ME1 - Kill Shiala, there is just no reason to do so as she doesn't fight back - Killing her it just outright stupid and borderline criminal.
ME2 - Let the Eclipse merc go in Thane's recruitment mission - He just partipated in the gunning down unarmed civilians, no way he is going to get away.

ME1 - There was good reason to kill Shiala even if it was optional. Her crime was beyond borderline criminal. She's not being judged on whether she fights back or not. She aided Saren before she was indoctrinated by the Thorian. She explains her reasons but there is enough cause not to trust her. Shephard being a spectre can deal out death as punishment for aiding Saren in the downfall of all organic life. If Shephard is ruthless then there is no acceptable excuse and the punishment for such grand treason is death. She even willingly accepts her death sentence because she knows she deserves it.

- Rana Thanoptis derserved death also for the same reason.

ME2 - The Eclipse merc commited a lesser crime than Shiala IMO but he too was deserving of death even if it was optional. The only unarmed civilians I saw gunned down were by mechs on the order of Nasana. He was killed because he may have been a threat to Shephard later (and for not cooperating).

Oh and before that she was indoctrinated by Sovereign?

She was indoctrinated by Sovereign AFTER boarding that ship of her own free will and for no good intention. Just like Saren and Benezia.

[snfonseka]

None for me....

[Ieldra]

Christmas Ape wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
(5) Kill the batarians when saving Mordin's assistant. Renegade or not, we had a deal, and they hadn't done anything inexcusable yet.

They're batarians. Their culture is built on chattel slavery that actually manages to outstrip some of humanity's greatest offenses, and their reaction to finding a lone human is to get ready to torture and murder him.
They wouldn't have hesitated to shoot you if you weren't a heavily armed commando team that would cut them to ribbons.
Every dead batarian is three human lives saved.

If you judge others not on an individual basis, but but by their species, or by their species' prevalent culture without knowing if they subscribe to it, then you're a racist.

I want to play a badass hero occasionally. But I don't want to play a racist.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 01 juin 2010 - 01:27 .

[Thompson family]

Even as an insufferable paragon saint, I can't find a good reason not to shove that electrical tool into the back of Sgt. Cathka as he's fixing the gunship in Garrus' loyalty mission. If I'd been given the option of a nice, clean headshot that would kill him without imposing suffering, I'd have preferred that.

Interrupting the long boring rant by the Werlock Guld fanatic ("You talk too much.") Is rather hard to resist too.

Modifié par Thompson family, 01 juin 2010 - 03:46 .

[nhsk]

CC-Tron wrote...

nhsk wrote...

CC-Tron wrote...

nhsk wrote...

ME1 - Kill Shiala, there is just no reason to do so as she doesn't fight back - Killing her it just outright stupid and borderline criminal.
ME2 - Let the Eclipse merc go in Thane's recruitment mission - He just partipated in the gunning down unarmed civilians, no way he is going to get away.

ME1 - There was good reason to kill Shiala even if it was optional. Her crime was beyond borderline criminal. She's not being judged on whether she fights back or not. She aided Saren before she was indoctrinated by the Thorian. She explains her reasons but there is enough cause not to trust her. Shephard being a spectre can deal out death as punishment for aiding Saren in the downfall of all organic life. If Shephard is ruthless then there is no acceptable excuse and the punishment for such grand treason is death. She even willingly accepts her death sentence because she knows she deserves it.

- Rana Thanoptis derserved death also for the same reason.

ME2 - The Eclipse merc commited a lesser crime than Shiala IMO but he too was deserving of death even if it was optional. The only unarmed civilians I saw gunned down were by mechs on the order of Nasana. He was killed because he may have been a threat to Shephard later (and for not cooperating).

Oh and before that she was indoctrinated by Sovereign?

She was indoctrinated by Sovereign AFTER boarding that ship of her own free will and for no good intention. Just like Saren and Benezia.

She followed Benezia aboard Sovereign, neither knowing of the indoctrination, to lead Saren to a rightful path.

I fail to see the evil intentions here.

[Newnation]

I can never not beat the crap out of the guy that hires Thane's son to kill the Turian politician, even when I'm supposed to be the good cop.

[inversevideo]

There are a few, but my top three...

1) I can't romance Jack.
Even as a renegon, I just can't do it.
jack has had such a hard life, she seems to need something other than that from Shepard. A friend, a human she can trust not to do her wrong. An authority figure who will not cross certain lines, thereby reinforcing her already dim view of her fellow humans.

2) Have not been able to give the Collector base to the I:llusive Man.
As Shep says, TIM is totally ruthless and would probably want to grow his own reaper.
Not to mention, Sovereign said that the Reapers guide the shape of our society through our use of their technology. If any technology is suspect, or possibly poisoned, it is the tech on that base.
Nothing good can come of using it. Like giving firearms to cavemen, or offshore drilling rights to BP.

3) Can't side with Morinth.
It just cannot be good, to expose your crew, unknowingly, to a serial rapist and murderer, who has to ply her bloody trade, in order to survive. 

Modifié par inversevideo, 01 juin 2010 - 04:09 .

[Christmas Ape]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
(5) Kill the batarians when saving Mordin's assistant. Renegade or not, we had a deal, and they hadn't done anything inexcusable yet.

They're batarians. Their culture is built on chattel slavery that actually manages to outstrip some of humanity's greatest offenses, and their reaction to finding a lone human is to get ready to torture and murder him.
They wouldn't have hesitated to shoot you if you weren't a heavily armed commando team that would cut them to ribbons.
Every dead batarian is three human lives saved.

If you judge others not on an individual basis, but but by their species, or by their species' prevalent culture without knowing if they subscribe to it, then you're a racist.

I want to play a badass hero occasionally. But I don't want to play a racist.

Your Imaginary Tolerance prize will be arriving in the mail shortly. We're all so proud.
Though I doubt you stopped to ask the Armstrong Nebula geth if they were gearing up for an invasion on behalf of Sovereign or just trying to establish some outposts and, rather logically, opened fire when Alliance soldiers came roaring down on them in a f^cking tank. You're a synthophobe!

My very first playthrough ever was as a Colonist. 'I Remember Me' took me twenty minutes to finish. I put the controller down four times and went outside to breathe twice. Batarians will never get an even break from me.

[nhsk]

Christmas Ape wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
(5) Kill the batarians when saving Mordin's assistant. Renegade or not, we had a deal, and they hadn't done anything inexcusable yet.

They're batarians. Their culture is built on chattel slavery that actually manages to outstrip some of humanity's greatest offenses, and their reaction to finding a lone human is to get ready to torture and murder him.
They wouldn't have hesitated to shoot you if you weren't a heavily armed commando team that would cut them to ribbons.
Every dead batarian is three human lives saved.

If you judge others not on an individual basis, but but by their species, or by their species' prevalent culture without knowing if they subscribe to it, then you're a racist.

I want to play a badass hero occasionally. But I don't want to play a racist.

Your Imaginary Tolerance prize will be arriving in the mail shortly. We're all so proud.
Though I doubt you stopped to ask the Armstrong Nebula geth if they were gearing up for an invasion on behalf of Sovereign or just trying to establish some outposts and, rather logically, opened fire when Alliance soldiers came roaring down on them in a f^cking tank. You're a synthophobe!

My very first playthrough ever was as a Colonist. 'I Remember Me' took me twenty minutes to finish. I put the controller down four times and went outside to breathe twice. Batarians will never get an even break from me.

Batararians deserve to die, all of them, period.

[Pacifien]

There are a couple decisions I've made consistently not because I felt like I couldn't make the alternate choice, but it simply never occurs to me to make the alternate choice. Such as keeping Shiala alive - it took discussion of her death here on the forums before I realized I could have made that decision as well.

But then there are decisions where I know there's two ways to go about it, but I find myself only going one way no matter what kind of Shepard I'm playing. However, I have inevitably made the alternate choice in the name of science, but usually go back to a save point and go with my usual choice as I continue on with the game. One of these choices is the Rachni Queen. Another was saving Morinth. Telling Elias Kelham about Mouse. Giving Veetor to Cerberus. Giving Legion to Cerberus. Letting Grunt out of his tank.

Oh, and I once tried to not kill the Thresher Maw during Grunt's loyalty mission, but after a couple minutes of running around, I decided to hell with outlasting the thing and killed it again.

[Daewan]

I've never been able to kill Rana Thanoptis, both because it's so pointless and because sparing her is so damn funny.

I've never been able to talk myself into saving the collector base. That just seems so dumb.... I haven't been able to do it and keep the save.

For the same reason, I also save the Rachi Queen and Legion every time.

And because I'm apparently a weak fluffy wuss, I let Ashley redeem her family name every time.

[inversevideo]

Christmas Ape wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
(5) Kill the batarians when saving Mordin's assistant. Renegade or not, we had a deal, and they hadn't done anything inexcusable yet.

They're batarians. Their culture is built on chattel slavery that actually manages to outstrip some of humanity's greatest offenses, and their reaction to finding a lone human is to get ready to torture and murder him.
They wouldn't have hesitated to shoot you if you weren't a heavily armed commando team that would cut them to ribbons.
Every dead batarian is three human lives saved.

If you judge others not on an individual basis, but but by their species, or by their species' prevalent culture without knowing if they subscribe to it, then you're a racist.

I want to play a badass hero occasionally. But I don't want to play a racist.

Your Imaginary Tolerance prize will be arriving in the mail shortly. We're all so proud.
Though I doubt you stopped to ask the Armstrong Nebula geth if they were gearing up for an invasion on behalf of Sovereign or just trying to establish some outposts and, rather logically, opened fire when Alliance soldiers came roaring down on them in a f^cking tank. You're a synthophobe!

My very first playthrough ever was as a Colonist. 'I Remember Me' took me twenty minutes to finish. I put the controller down four times and went outside to breathe twice. Batarians will never get an even break from me.

Dude Tone!

I don't think you are attacking leldr2, rather having some fun? But your response could be mis-read,  as a personal attack, just saying!

leldr2's point of view is valid leldr2, and yours is valid for you.

I kill them, because, if I let them go, they WILL go torture someone else.
Afterall, these are the same three morons I met when first arriving at 'Afterlife', and if they are willing to threaten three heavilly armed people, one of which has a grenade launcher, they will do so to any human.

But we all have our reasons for doing or not doing something.

And the question, posed by the OP, is a good one.
Always curious to see what folks will do or not do, and why.

Modifié par inversevideo, 01 juin 2010 - 04:24 .

[MrNose]

Appointing Udina.

Killing the Batarians on Mordin's recruitment.

So far: Not encouraging Miranda to see her sister.

And weirdly: I have never been able to resist kicking that Eclipse merc out the window. Seriously, who does he think he is?

[Christmas Ape]

inversevideo wrote...
Dude Tone!

I don't think you are attacking leldr2, rather having some fun? But your response could be mis-read,  as a personal attack, just saying!

Those people would be idiots. The presence of the tongue-sticking-out, 'poking fun' smiley should be obvious.
To say nothing of the fact that if one feels personally attacked by the accusation they're biased against synthetic life - which I remind you doesn't exist yet in any meaningful way - they need to get the hell off the internet because that cellophane-thick skin isn't going to do them any favors.

[LyudmilaKatzen]

ME1:

I can't kill Shiala, she seems to have good intentions at heart and two years later she is still trying to help the colonists in ME2. I also can't kill Rana, she's an idiot to have worked for Saren but somehow I'm compelled to let her go. Watching her run screaming to get away before I blow the place up is also too much fun to miss. I can't kill Wrex, even on the playthrough I swore I was going to kill him on, I just could not do it. He was my buddy and respected me, and his respect was worth something, being hard-earned. So I always have to persuade him.



ME2:

Saving Morinth. I promised to help Samara, Samara is a known quantity whereas Morinth seems like the sort who could turn on you. Her main argument for living is that she is powerful and can help you, she has no remorse for all the people she killed. Not letting Tali take Veetor, the poor guy. All we need is his data, no reason to endanger his life. And it's not like we can't find him later if we needed to. Same with Legion, he helped me, he could have killed me if he wanted to on the derelict reaper. I can't hand him over to Cerberus once he agrees to work with me. I also can't turn the evidence about Tali's father over at her trial. I actually wish there was a way to let the truth come out but still have her loyalty, but given the options I choose to go along with her wishes and point out how her trial is a sham to get her exonerated.

[SkullandBonesmember]

Lumikki wrote...

It's a question between someone attacking you and you doing cruel thing and execute someone.
Also it's the different between what is necassarity for you mission and what's not.

Exactly.

[Siansonea]

I've done everything at least once, even kill Samara(!). I have a purely evil/stupid Shepard that I use just for those situations. Ashley Shepard is a moron and a psycopath, so she made Udina Councilor, killed Shiala, Gianna Parasini/Anoleis and Rana Thanoptis. She killed anyone and anything that could be killed in ME1, and tried to kill as many of her squad as possible in ME2, but unfortunately Garrus, Miranda, and a couple of others survived. :/

Modifié par Siansonea II, 01 juin 2010 - 04:59 .