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[Vaenier]

Christmas Ape wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

OR, I have a better idea, why can't I sell the 80,000 pounds of platinum I have just sitting around on my ship?

To whom? What's the price for a kilogram of platinum on Omega? On Ilium? On the Citadel? What are the import tarriffs? Are you licensed to trade there? Do you need to be? What makes you so sure the ship carries ~230 tons of cargo - it seems more reasonable to assume they're a smaller measure than pounds?

How do you carry all those resources on your ship? unless maybe those units are like cubic milimeters or something

Wow, now that would be a kick in the quads, to find out all those resources you mined add up to about the size of your head. all those clicks and you barely have a rock to show for it

[Christmas Ape]

Vaenier wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

OR, I have a better idea, why can't I sell the 80,000 pounds of platinum I have just sitting around on my ship?

To whom? What's the price for a kilogram of platinum on Omega? On Ilium? On the Citadel? What are the import tarriffs? Are you licensed to trade there? Do you need to be? What makes you so sure the ship carries ~230 tons of cargo - it seems more reasonable to assume they're a smaller measure than pounds?

How do you carry all those resources on your ship? unless maybe those units are like cubic milimeters or something

Wow, now that would be a kick in the quads, to find out all those resources you mined add up to about the size of your head. all those clicks and you barely have a rock to show for it

My assumption is grams.
My mind wanders when I'm scanning, because I do it completely by sound (and a little lit up) - I've even got a rationale for the fact you're collecting those four elements and no others that connects them to the fact they generate research.

I'm that nerd, yeah.

[CmdrFenix83]

onelifecrisis wrote...

Shepard is a common thief

"I'm an exceptional thief, Mrs. McClane..."

Modifié par CmdrFenix83, 31 mai 2010 - 07:59 .

[Lemonwizard]

Christmas Ape wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

OR, I have a better idea, why can't I sell the 80,000 pounds of platinum I have just sitting around on my ship?

To whom? What's the price for a kilogram of platinum on Omega? On Ilium? On the Citadel? What are the import tarriffs? Are you licensed to trade there? Do you need to be? What makes you so sure the ship carries ~230 tons of cargo - it seems more reasonable to assume they're a smaller measure than pounds?

If it's valuable (especially somethign as valuable as, say, element zero) and in large quantities, I highly doubt you'd be unable to find abybody in the whole Terminus systems unwilling to make such a trade under the table.

[EricHVela]

I think they should make it so that you just have to walk over chits, upgrade research, new weapons, mission items and medigel to pick them up... kinda like thermal clips.

Wait. Where have I seen that before?

[Christmas Ape]

Lemonwizard wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

OR, I have a better idea, why can't I sell the 80,000 pounds of platinum I have just sitting around on my ship?

To whom? What's the price for a kilogram of platinum on Omega? On Ilium? On the Citadel? What are the import tarriffs? Are you licensed to trade there? Do you need to be? What makes you so sure the ship carries ~230 tons of cargo - it seems more reasonable to assume they're a smaller measure than pounds?

If it's valuable (especially somethign as valuable as, say, element zero) and in large quantities, I highly doubt you'd be unable to find abybody in the whole Terminus systems unwilling to make such a trade under the table.

How quickly? For that matter, how? Do you have the time to go wandering the Terminus systems to try and
find a buyer? Are you just going to send a broad-spectrum extranet spam message, "WTS 50K eezo, shep@sr2.cer, srs offers only plz"? Can you trust anybody in the Terminus systems who will absolutely come trade several million credits for a large quantity of an incredibly rare substance to not land an entire mercenary battallion and just take your eezo, your credits, and your nice fancy ship?

Are you certain you won't need it at any other time? Suppose you need emergency drive repairs - you're gonna feel silly trying to collect dust-form eezo out of empty cargo bins with a playing card when you just offloaded metric buttloads of it. And, again - what's the market value? Are you getting cheated?

The short answer is obviously to why you can't is "because it's not a business sim", while there are longer story answers.

[Nightwriter]

*blinks innocently * In every game I've played you have been able to steal with absolutely no real world acknowledgement...

Are you telling me now the stealing is... real? People can see me when I do this?! No! I'm invisible! Nobody knows!

Besides, all the people I took money from were used car salesmen and loan sharks. And all the people I stole from on Horizon beat their children. And the people I stole from on Omega were vampires. Evil vampires.

[Vaenier]

Nightwriter wrote...

*blinks innocently * In every game I've played you have been able to steal with absolutely no real world acknowledgement...

Are you telling me now the stealing is... real? People can see me when I do this?! No! I'm invisible! Nobody knows!

Besides, all the people I took money from were used car salesmen and loan sharks. And all the people I stole from on Horizon beat their children. And the people I stole from on Omega were vampires. Evil vampires.

I only ever stole from dead people.
*shoots guy in head* oh look, another dead guy, lets take his stuff.

[Vaenier]

Christmas Ape wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

OR, I have a better idea, why can't I sell the 80,000 pounds of platinum I have just sitting around on my ship?

To whom? What's the price for a kilogram of platinum on Omega? On Ilium? On the Citadel? What are the import tarriffs? Are you licensed to trade there? Do you need to be? What makes you so sure the ship carries ~230 tons of cargo - it seems more reasonable to assume they're a smaller measure than pounds?

If it's valuable (especially somethign as valuable as, say, element zero) and in large quantities, I highly doubt you'd be unable to find abybody in the whole Terminus systems unwilling to make such a trade under the table.

How quickly? For that matter, how? Do you have the time to go wandering the Terminus systems to try and
find a buyer? Are you just going to send a broad-spectrum extranet spam message, "WTS 50K eezo, shep@sr2.cer, srs offers only plz"? Can you trust anybody in the Terminus systems who will absolutely come trade several million credits for a large quantity of an incredibly rare substance to not land an entire mercenary battallion and just take your eezo, your credits, and your nice fancy ship?

Are you certain you won't need it at any other time? Suppose you need emergency drive repairs - you're gonna feel silly trying to collect dust-form eezo out of empty cargo bins with a playing card when you just offloaded metric buttloads of it. And, again - what's the market value? Are you getting cheated?

The short answer is obviously to why you can't is "because it's not a business sim", while there are longer story answers.

That is just stupid. Your argument is it is smarter to just keep a stupidly large amount of resources your ship probably cant even hold instead of selling them off for any amount of money when you actualy need money and there is no more to loot in the galaxy....

Faith in humanity minus 9 points.

[CalJones]

Sometimes I poke through crates, y'know, for extra credits.

[kraidy1117]

Nightwriter wrote...

*blinks innocently * In every game I've played you have been able to steal with absolutely no real world acknowledgement...

Are you telling me now the stealing is... real? People can see me when I do this?! No! I'm invisible! Nobody knows!

Besides, all the people I took money from were used car salesmen and loan sharks. And all the people I stole from on Horizon beat their children. And the people I stole from on Omega were vampires. Evil vampires.

[SuperMedbh]

You can get in trouble in DA:O if you steal unsuccessfully, or loot in the wrong places. So, it's not an idea foreign to Bioware.



I'm with the OP on this one-- I like the way Cereberus funds you at the end of a mission. Fits in more with the storyline. So does "scanning" weaponry and technology for use by Mordin and EDI later on. Just because every RPG out there has looting doesn't mean that there can't be better, more storyline specific ways to handle character finances/rewards.

[EricHVela]

Nightwriter wrote...

*blinks innocently * In every game I've played you have been able to steal with absolutely no real world acknowledgement...

Are you telling me now the stealing is... real? People can see me when I do this?! No! I'm invisible! Nobody knows!

Besides, all the people I took money from were used car salesmen and loan sharks. And all the people I stole from on Horizon beat their children. And the people I stole from on Omega were vampires. Evil vampires.

IIRC, Ultima 4/5 would get you in trouble if you stole while someone was watching. (There are some more games that won't let you kill an innocent person in sight of some other innocent person or police-type person.)

At the very least, it would have been nice so that Shep would get in trouble or have a fight on his hands if he stole or poked his nose into notes/records where it didn't belong if certain people were watching.

Walking up and taking whatever was in the wall-safe in those people's apartment didn't make a lot of sense. It was like they were completely obvlivious to it.

[Nightwriter]

I remember in KOTOR you could just go plowing through apartments, stealing.

Then in KOTOR2 I go to take credits from an empty apartment, and some guy runs in, angry.

"Hey! Wtf do you think you're doing?! Are you stealing from me?! Get out!"

I was totally surprised. I just stood there like, "Uhhhh..."

"What are you doing in my aparment?!"

"Strange... normally no one can see me when I take things... not even my dark side meter..."

"OUT!"

[onelifecrisis]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Shepard is a common thief

"I'm an exceptional thief, Mrs. McClane..."

You get bonus points.

[Christmas Ape]

Vaenier wrote...
That is just stupid. Your argument is it is smarter to just keep a stupidly large amount of resources your ship probably cant even hold instead of selling them off for any amount of money when you actualy need money and there is no more to loot in the galaxy....

Faith in humanity minus 9 points.

No, it's that Shepard has sh!t to do that isn't fly around the Terminus Systems trying to offload a cargo hold full of rare minerals while the Collectors gear up to stick it in all the way up to the elbow and break it off so you walk funny forever. Bulk sales of raw commodities aren't as easy as MMOs lead you to believe.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Vaenier wrote...

Bring a man back from the dead: several billion credits
Outfit that soldiers with the best armor and weapons, equaling a few hundred thousand credits? Nope...
Build the most advanced ship in the galaxy: several hundred billion credits
Outfit that ship with good weapons and armor? Nope...

Epic fail much?

and then you have to steal your ammo... and have to upgrade certain stuff on your own... 
and then further upgrade a ship.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

"oh hey... I'm saving your ass. Do you mind if I just immediately use this? i'm just borrowing this without asking. thanks a bunch! did I mention I'm saving your ****ing ass by the way? in a way you're kind of saving your own ass too. ^_^", commander shepard

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 31 mai 2010 - 09:39 .

[STG]

Shepard's calling card?



"I'm Commander Shepard, and this was my favorite theft on the Citadel."

[Andrew_Waltfeld]

Sajuro wrote...

When you go to the citadel for the first time in ME3 C-sec arrests you for all those thefts.

I will laugh if that's one of the miscellanous charges in ME3.

[FuturePasTimeCE]

STG wrote...

Shepard's calling card?

"I'm Commander Shepard, and this was my favorite theft on the Citadel."

 free frequent flyer miles.

[Christianson]

Its just a game.And yes it is the Christian with a 173 IQ. I dont know why you find that hard to belief. Maybe your just not familiar with people of such an IQ:)

[DPSSOC]

Shepard's a common thief? How many thieves do you know walk around wearing, for all intents and purposes, a tank.



Shepard simply subscribes to the true heroes moral code: "I can, I want to, I will."



Alternatively subscribing to the omnipotent jacka** moral code: "Who's gonna stop me?"

[scorptatious]

By your logic, all the times you got items from treasure chests would be considered stealing.



Honestly, I just try not to think about it and just play the game.

[Jackal904]

Good point OP, I never actually thought about it. I guess BioWare had to implement some kind of looting so that all the rpg fanatics don't drown themselves in tears.