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Some of you rabid fanyboys need to get off of your high horse and look at things a little more objectively around here.
this is pretty awesome! I think this still applies to fangirls too. especially the empty part?
Too much RPG/Not enough RPG!
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this is pretty awesome! I think this still applies to fangirls too. especially the empty part?
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 01:29
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Not much to say to this subject, because too much or less roleplaying in games is TOTALLY players personal taste. If someone likes general ways of roleplaying games, they usually want more roleplaying stuff. There is no correct answer to this.
If you compare ME1 and ME2, then ME1 had little more roleplaying related stuff. How ever, the difference isn't really big. Mostly because the main and most important part of both Mass Effect is the cinematic characters storytelling with dialogs and combat.
Base consept: A role-playing game (RPG) is a broad family of games in which players assume the roles of characters, or take control of one or more avatars, in a fictional setting. Role playing games are fundamentally different from most other types of games in that they stress social interaction and collaboration in storytelling.
If you compare ME1 and ME2, then ME1 had little more roleplaying related stuff. How ever, the difference isn't really big. Mostly because the main and most important part of both Mass Effect is the cinematic characters storytelling with dialogs and combat.
Base consept: A role-playing game (RPG) is a broad family of games in which players assume the roles of characters, or take control of one or more avatars, in a fictional setting. Role playing games are fundamentally different from most other types of games in that they stress social interaction and collaboration in storytelling.
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 03:18
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Hurray, I like how the RPG side is hypocritical to the extreme, Kalfear in particular has just been a troll for a good while now, claiming the game to be the devil and that everything it includes will release poisonous bile at your first touch. While I agree with some of your points, Kalfear, there is no need to act like an **** and claiming that everyone who has the balls to actually like the game is retarded and will never be part of the true RPG gaming master race.
The posters who talked about an unpleasable fanbase are right, to quote Yahtzee " Fans are clingy complaining dip****s that are never happy for any concession you make, the sooner you shut off their thrill tremulous voices the happier you'll be for it".
Bioware should just do what they want to instead of looking out for people who will cry and moan regardless of what has been said.
And yes I am aware that I'm a hypocrite as well, with both this post and laughing at the fanboy thing but still, just stop complaining shut up and if you don't like it then leave, any points that you could have made for honest criticism have been said here before and with less of an **** bias.
Rant Over.
PS: I reread some of the topics and I have to say one thing, you claim that the fans are morons and only 1 in 30 are capable of logical argument, where your's basically amounts to "It sucks because its not like the first one, if you think otherwise you are wrong and stupid", another blatant sign that you are ignoring what you are even typing out of bias and refusal to acknowledge at least some flaws on your argumentation.
The posters who talked about an unpleasable fanbase are right, to quote Yahtzee " Fans are clingy complaining dip****s that are never happy for any concession you make, the sooner you shut off their thrill tremulous voices the happier you'll be for it".
Bioware should just do what they want to instead of looking out for people who will cry and moan regardless of what has been said.
And yes I am aware that I'm a hypocrite as well, with both this post and laughing at the fanboy thing but still, just stop complaining shut up and if you don't like it then leave, any points that you could have made for honest criticism have been said here before and with less of an **** bias.
Rant Over.
PS: I reread some of the topics and I have to say one thing, you claim that the fans are morons and only 1 in 30 are capable of logical argument, where your's basically amounts to "It sucks because its not like the first one, if you think otherwise you are wrong and stupid", another blatant sign that you are ignoring what you are even typing out of bias and refusal to acknowledge at least some flaws on your argumentation.
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 05:58
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JohnnyDollar, thats hillarious and does fit many ME2 fanboys
As for the rest, oh look, they attack in group once again.
Now they going to claim cause 5 attacked 1 (notice how the 5 said nothing at all btw, I mean there literally nothing worth responding to being said, all nonsence and lies) they going to start with the nonsence that the 7 to 1 ratio that posted negative and left isnt really a majority because they left and didnt stay to argue with the kiddies here.
oh and Msf,kgfilcgrfclkchgkufhw (look I think im cool cause I can mash a keyboard for my name), anyone with any sence is LMFAO at you with me cause you said nothing. I brought up more points in this one thread then 10 of you have in 50 threads, its not my fault you dont comprehend the english language and whats being said!
This is my last post in this thread cause while I hoped my exchange with SSV would have brought out a different and smarter ME2 poster, it sadly hasnt, just the same people that attack anyone that prefers the first more and can verbalize why. None of them can hold a real conversation, they just attack attack attack like the little pests they are!
In real life, you just know everyone of them would be head faceing floor, eyes looking at shoes, going "yes sir" "how high sir" "anything else sir". Well that or "do you want coke with that meal deal?""
As for the rest, oh look, they attack in group once again.
Now they going to claim cause 5 attacked 1 (notice how the 5 said nothing at all btw, I mean there literally nothing worth responding to being said, all nonsence and lies) they going to start with the nonsence that the 7 to 1 ratio that posted negative and left isnt really a majority because they left and didnt stay to argue with the kiddies here.
oh and Msf,kgfilcgrfclkchgkufhw (look I think im cool cause I can mash a keyboard for my name), anyone with any sence is LMFAO at you with me cause you said nothing. I brought up more points in this one thread then 10 of you have in 50 threads, its not my fault you dont comprehend the english language and whats being said!
This is my last post in this thread cause while I hoped my exchange with SSV would have brought out a different and smarter ME2 poster, it sadly hasnt, just the same people that attack anyone that prefers the first more and can verbalize why. None of them can hold a real conversation, they just attack attack attack like the little pests they are!
In real life, you just know everyone of them would be head faceing floor, eyes looking at shoes, going "yes sir" "how high sir" "anything else sir". Well that or "do you want coke with that meal deal?""
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anyways... (looking at above post)
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Lumikki wrote...
Not much to say to this subject, because too much or less roleplaying in games is TOTALLY players personal taste. If someone likes general ways of roleplaying games, they usually want more roleplaying stuff. There is no correct answer to this.
If you compare ME1 and ME2, then ME1 had little more roleplaying related stuff. How ever, the difference isn't really big. Mostly because the main and most important part of both Mass Effect is the cinematic characters storytelling with dialogs and combat.
Base consept: A role-playing game (RPG) is a broad family of games in which players assume the roles of characters, or take control of one or more avatars, in a fictional setting. Role playing games are fundamentally different from most other types of games in that they stress social interaction and collaboration in storytelling.
I think you pretty hit it on the nose for me. It definitely comes down to personal taste.
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 06:14
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Don't mind Kalfear, I've learned to ignore him. He just can't admit most people prefer ME2 over ME1. He's one of those arrogant people that thinks his opinion is always the right one while stubbornly denying proof and calls everybody that disagrees with him a troll
So, I'd say JohnnyDollar's picture fits him perfectly
So, I'd say JohnnyDollar's picture fits him perfectly
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 06:46
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Like I said, a tool.
I note that he frequently makes mention to my post where I said, "And to the rest of you I say... (bunch of questions regarding traditional RPG mechanics)," asking where he posted complaining about those things.
Perhaps if he had half as much reading comprehension as he did an inventory of middle school insults (Walrusbutt?), he would realize that section of my post was directed to the general line of complainers and not at him at all.
Vocabulary is nice, but understanding its structure and meaning as a whole is even better!
When you see a kid in elementary school stomping off the playground, shouting, "DOODY HEAD!" while wiping his tears, you know he lost the argument.
I note that he frequently makes mention to my post where I said, "And to the rest of you I say... (bunch of questions regarding traditional RPG mechanics)," asking where he posted complaining about those things.
Perhaps if he had half as much reading comprehension as he did an inventory of middle school insults (Walrusbutt?), he would realize that section of my post was directed to the general line of complainers and not at him at all.
Vocabulary is nice, but understanding its structure and meaning as a whole is even better!When you see a kid in elementary school stomping off the playground, shouting, "DOODY HEAD!" while wiping his tears, you know he lost the argument.
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It applies too all fanboys and fangirls alike.EA_BiowareAccount wrote...
JohnnyDollar wrote...
Some of you rabid fanyboys need to get off of your high horse and look at things a little more objectively around here.
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this is pretty awesome! I think this still applies to fangirls too. especially the empty part?
I was looking at the word "fanboy" as generic when I posted. Sometimes it's more simple or convenient that way.
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Why can't this debate ever be discussed in a civilized manner? I would like to see ME1 or ME2 discussed for once without habitually comparing them to each other. They are very different games with different goals. And yes, both of them have pretty big flaws, but the remedy to ME2's flaws does not necessarily reside in ME1 and vice versa.
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Alas my fellow old school gamer, this forum is not old school though.slimgrin wrote...
Why can't this debate ever be discussed in a civilized manner? I would like to see ME1 or ME2 discussed for once without habitually comparing them to each other. They are very different games with different goals. And yes, both of them have pretty big flaws, but the remedy to ME2's flaws does not necessarily reside in ME1, and vice versa.
As Confucius once said:
"Man go to sleep with itchy butt, wakes up with stinky fingers"
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 08:13
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I agree. Mass Effect 3 is tons better than Mass Effect 1 and 2. Neither was anywhere near as good as Mass Effect 0, even though that game sucked.Shotokanguy wrote...
Because I happen to only like one of the three games (and not two of them or all three), that makes me immune from being called a fangirl or fanboy, so my opinion matters more than everyone else. I dare anyone right now to point out any flaws in Mass Effect 3.
...Anyone? Hah!
I shall proceed to post on a BioWare fan forum with my BioWare avatar and BioWare signature (which sometimes references a BioWare character) and call everyone else either BioWare-2007 fanboys/fangirls or BioWare 2010 fanboys/fangirls.
You're not a true fan of BioWare if you don't like Mass Effect 3 as much as I do.
That's because no one is really comparing them to any other RPG, including the best selling RPG of all time:slimgrin wrote...
Why can't this debate ever be discussed in a civilized manner? I would like to see ME1 or ME2 discussed for once without habitually comparing them to each other. They are very different games with different goals. And yes, both of them have pretty big flaws, but the remedy to ME2's flaws does not necessarily reside in ME1 and vice versa.
http://social.biowar.../index/2791290/
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Pokemon is the best RPG. But I like to thank ultima for starting it all for video games though.
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Mass Effect 3 was a complete betrayal of everything Bioware stood for. Just for starters, Urz in ME2 was a rugged but tormented individualist who nonetheless slobbered all over Shepard. But the slobber didn't happen until AFTER the complexity of Ratch's Quest. In ME3, Urz is immediately buddy buddy with Shepard regardless of whether or not Shepard befriended him in ME2. Hello? Continuity? What the problem Bioware? Too lazy to figure out the consequences of a mere 107 plot permutations in ME2?
Then ME3 forces that stupid plotline in which you visit the Varren homeworld and entered Urz in agility trials. Sure, it appealed to those console kiddies who get excited over state of the art physics engines for the jumps and customizable Varren snacks. Don't even get me started on the "teeter totter angst" B.S. Urz is a VARREN, FFS. He'd just eat the teeter totter, not waste time worrying about whether he hit the contact point or not. Where is the indepth combat system that ME2 had in the pit fights?
Oh, and planet scanning. I LOVED planet scanning, almost as much as I loved getting stuck on mountains in the Mako. First, Bioware removed the Mako in ME2, simply because everyone complained about it. THEN they get rid of planet scanning??
Finally, I bought ALL of the Mass Effect series, sometimes even at full price. Heck, I even got the Equalizer Pack! And still Seth Green hasn't called me. What's up with that?
Then ME3 forces that stupid plotline in which you visit the Varren homeworld and entered Urz in agility trials. Sure, it appealed to those console kiddies who get excited over state of the art physics engines for the jumps and customizable Varren snacks. Don't even get me started on the "teeter totter angst" B.S. Urz is a VARREN, FFS. He'd just eat the teeter totter, not waste time worrying about whether he hit the contact point or not. Where is the indepth combat system that ME2 had in the pit fights?
Oh, and planet scanning. I LOVED planet scanning, almost as much as I loved getting stuck on mountains in the Mako. First, Bioware removed the Mako in ME2, simply because everyone complained about it. THEN they get rid of planet scanning??
Finally, I bought ALL of the Mass Effect series, sometimes even at full price. Heck, I even got the Equalizer Pack! And still Seth Green hasn't called me. What's up with that?
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It appears I'm taking this topic a bit too seriously.
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Sometimes you just have to "bow to the absurd" slimgrin.slimgrin wrote...
It appears I'm taking this topic a bit too seriously.
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 09:22
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What, are you kidding me? Urz was the best developed character in ME2 and ME3! Just look at the dialogue!SuperMedbh wrote...
Mass Effect 3 was a complete betrayal of everything Bioware stood for. Just for starters, Urz in ME2 was a rugged but tormented individualist who nonetheless slobbered all over Shepard. But the slobber didn't happen until AFTER the complexity of Ratch's Quest. In ME3, Urz is immediately buddy buddy with Shepard regardless of whether or not Shepard befriended him in ME2. Hello? Continuity? What the problem Bioware? Too lazy to figure out the consequences of a mere 107 plot permutations in ME2?
Shepard: Stay.
Urz: *sits*
Mass Effect 3 has less shooting than Mass Effect 1 and 2, and you're complaining? Just because Urz is like a dog doesn't mean they're dumbing down the game for the pet loving shooter crowd.Then ME3 forces that stupid plotline in which you visit the Varren homeworld and entered Urz in agility trials. Sure, it appealed to those console kiddies who get excited over state of the art physics engines for the jumps and customizable Varren snacks. Don't even get me started on the "teeter totter angst" B.S. Urz is a VARREN, FFS. He'd just eat the teeter totter, not waste time worrying about whether he hit the contact point or not. Where is the indepth combat system that ME2 had in the pit fights?
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I agree, planet-scanning was the best thing that ever happened to BioWare! I loved exploring the flat, empty planets with my scanning reticule!Oh, and planet scanning. I LOVED planet scanning, almost as much as I loved getting stuck on mountains in the Mako. First, Bioware removed the Mako in ME2, simply because everyone complained about it. THEN they get rid of planet scanning??
Finally, I bought ALL of the Mass Effect series, sometimes even at full price. Heck, I even got the Equalizer Pack! And still Seth Green hasn't called me. What's up with that?
EXPLORATION!
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 09:25
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What a fitting thing to say coming from a BioWare FANGIRL that she loves planet scanning.Ecael wrote...
I agree, planet-scanning was the best thing that ever happened to BioWare! I loved exploring the flat, empty planets with my scanning reticule!
EXPLORATION!
The Mako was tons better because the planets had MOUNTAINS! And when you hopped over and explored that mountain, you found out that right behind it was another MOUNTAIN!
You suck.
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 09:27
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Why must you people insult me like that? I'm just expressing my OPINION, gosh...ShepardWrex wrote...
What a fitting thing to say coming from a BioWare FANGIRL that she loves planet scanning.Ecael wrote...
I agree, planet-scanning was the best thing that ever happened to BioWare! I loved exploring the flat, empty planets with my scanning reticule!
EXPLORATION!
The Mako was tons better because the planets had MOUNTAINS! And when you hopped over and explored that mountain, you found out that right behind it was another MOUNTAIN!
You suck.
Planet-scanning is teh awesome. It tastes just like triple chocolate cheesecake. At least, that's my view of it.
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 09:31
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Then we can at least come to a compromise and agree that planet-scanning and the Mako sucks.Ecael wrote...
Why must you people insult me like that? I'm just expressing my OPINION, gosh...ShepardWrex wrote...
What a fitting thing to say coming from a BioWare FANGIRL that she loves planet scanning.Ecael wrote...
I agree, planet-scanning was the best thing that ever happened to BioWare! I loved exploring the flat, empty planets with my scanning reticule!
EXPLORATION!
The Mako was tons better because the planets had MOUNTAINS! And when you hopped over and explored that mountain, you found out that right behind it was another MOUNTAIN!
You suck.
Planet-scanning is teh awesome. It tastes just like triple chocolate cheesecake. At least, that's my view of it.
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 09:34
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ShepardWrex, do youy know what witty means? Because thats what Ecael is doing.
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 09:35
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Never! Then I would be indirectly saying that chocolate cheesecake is made of fail!ShepardWrex wrote...
Then we can at least come to a compromise and agree that planet-scanning and the Mako sucks.Ecael wrote...
Why must you people insult me like that? I'm just expressing my OPINION, gosh...ShepardWrex wrote...
What a fitting thing to say coming from a BioWare FANGIRL that she loves planet scanning.Ecael wrote...
I agree, planet-scanning was the best thing that ever happened to BioWare! I loved exploring the flat, empty planets with my scanning reticule!
EXPLORATION!
The Mako was tons better because the planets had MOUNTAINS! And when you hopped over and explored that mountain, you found out that right behind it was another MOUNTAIN!
You suck.
Planet-scanning is teh awesome. It tastes just like triple chocolate cheesecake. At least, that's my view of it.
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Posté 04 juin 2010 - 09:37
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kraidy1117 wrote...
Ecael always makes me smile.
