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[nhsk]

It is getting out of hand.

Why is it people want to have romances with everything non human? Like Garrus say in his romance dialogue "You can hit something a little closer to home" or something along those lines?

Ok human - asari, fair enough - That is like human - elf to compare with fantasy settings, but have you ever seen a human - dwarf pairing? Physiology is just to obscure to see it happen, why would Garrus ever want to be with a human for instance? Is he that desperate being a not a very good turian?

Or the other way around, the whole excuse "I want someone I can trust" is just to cheap - Taking Garrus romance as an example.(only played 1 femshep, only did Garrus romance grudgingly to see the famed paragon interrupt in his romance)

In fantasy dwarves and humans (example) can be very good friends, but physically they are well, incompatible.

Elf - Halfling pairings is kinda rare too.

Fine, Garrus is a cool character I'll give him that but I would like a game for ME3 where romances is well, "less" - Not that I mind flavor but in ME2 I can barely talk to a female without hitting on her and if I turn her down she will never talk to me again. I mean "Wtf" - Can't we have some serious adult FRIENDSHIPS with dialogue, without the whole "lets have sex" thing in it?

In DA you can flirt with Oghren, but you can't go all the way - It's fine, it's humor, it's more adult.

And Tali romance, don't even get me started... I risk killing her?!? Even if I liked her character I wouldn't do that to her despite she perhaps wants it. But again, physiology difference is just to big.

I can like a member of the opposite sex without constantly thinking about how to get that person in bed.

I had way better arguments in my head as well, they're gone. Perhaps they come back later when I get flamed but seriously, can we have a more adult ME3 where it's possible to be friends with Miranda after saying I didn't mean it that way instead of just hearing "There's a lot to do commander, another time" constantly after that?

Guess it's to much to ask

[EricHVela]

I want to be able to orchestrate a romance between a Krogan and an Asari.

Oh wait.

Did that already.

[JRCHOharry]

justinnstuff wrote...

Captain Kurk Syndrome.

I hear thats treatable...





... WITH SEX!

[STG]

Thats ME2 for you.



We get so much stuff thrown at us that none actually gets developed.

[nhsk]

Oh and for the love of all that is holy, keep "bromances" far far away - Not I have anything against gays, but if it turns out in ME3 I can't even be friends with same sex members of team without thinking of getting in their pants... Jesus christ

[Panda Warlock]

Just face it. Sheparsd is a crazed sexual deviant. After all this killing and running he is so pumped up, not even black holes and plot holes are safe.

[Rzepik2]

There is only one problem with your argumentation...
Jacob.

Modifié par Rzepik2, 01 juin 2010 - 07:20 .

[nhsk]

Rzepik2 wrote...

There is only one problem with your argumentation...
Jacob.

I fail to see how "Jacob" is a problem with my argumentation?

[Rzepik2]

nhsk wrote...

Rzepik2 wrote...

There is only one problem with your argumentation...
Jacob.

I fail to see how "Jacob" is a problem with my argumentation?

Well... in ME2 he is the only human option for femSheps. I 'm pretty damn sure that 99% femsheps prefer any kind of space lizard over him.
Srsly now. Yeah, it seems that romances are a bit 'forced', it all smells like a big fanservice. And yes, I would like to be just a buddy for Jack. But this whole 'sex or nothing syndrome' is - I guess - caused by... ah yes... "streamlining".
Anatomic differences? Well... Shepard is a hero, so he gets ANY girl. Or a guy. Or a not-really-a-woman blue space dryad.

Modifié par Rzepik2, 01 juin 2010 - 07:57 .

[Rzepik2]

double post

Modifié par Rzepik2, 01 juin 2010 - 07:56 .

[EricHVela]

needz harbinger luv-intrest moar

[nhsk]

Rzepik2 wrote...

nhsk wrote...

Rzepik2 wrote...

There is only one problem with your argumentation...
Jacob.

I fail to see how "Jacob" is a problem with my argumentation?

Well... in ME2 he is the only human option for femSheps. I 'm pretty damn sure that 99% femsheps prefer any kind of space lizard over him.
Srsly now. Yeah, it seems that romances are a bit 'forced', it all smells like a big fanservice. And yes, I would like to be just a buddy for Jack. But this whole 'sex or nothing syndrome' is - I guess - caused by... ah yes... "streamlining".
Anatomic differences? Well... Shepard is a hero, so he gets ANY girl. Or a guy. Or a not-really-a-woman blue space dryad.

Too bad, seriously. Canon shep is male, anyone who goes beyond that bound might get a little less or other options when dealing with the NPC's (like playing on sexuality when dealing with them, Donovan Hock comes to mind)

If canon shep was female it would be another matter and seem weird that there were more romance options for a male non canon shep yes.

[KalosCast]

It's been pointed out time and time again that ME2 is pretty much dripping in sex, especially if you're male Shep.

[Ieldra]

nhsk wrote...
Why is it people want to have romances with everything non human? Like Garrus say in his romance dialogue "You can hit something a little closer to home" or something along those lines?

You echo my feelings.

A few months ago, I wrote this on the old forums (obviously, not intended to be seen as part of the ME universe):

Excerpt from a meeting at the galactic conference for ethnography and cultural studies. Names have been replaced by tags according to anonymization protocol #101. Database available on request.

@@5: (presents a report about Human reproductive behavior and its influence on the portrayal of extraterrestrial species in Human culture)
@@17 (shocked): "Can this be true? They are...er...always in season?"
@@5 (smugly): "Yes. The data are unmistakable. I think we can now say that
the theories recently put forward by our esteemed colleague @@284, saying that we would never see this kind of reproductive setup in a species intelligent enough to build an advanced civilization, have to be...ahem...thoroughly revised."
@@17: "But how do they get anything done? Anything…er…else, I mean."
@@5: "I was coming to that. But first, let me put a somewhat unusual question to you: How many of you look forward to your next reproduction period?"
@@54: "Pfft. How could you look forward to *that*? We’ll be completely out of control!"
@@371 (from the back bench): "Yes. It’s rather liberating, don’t you think?"
(shocked silence. Heads and eyestalks turn in the direction of @@371)
@@371: "Oh…have I said anything?"
@@54 (turning back to face @@5): "Are you saying that these Humans are like that *all the time*?"
@@5: "Yes and no. You see, the drive exists all the time, but opportunities for sex are comparably rare…"
@@77: "Heh…everything’s rare compared to all the time."
(some time later)
@@5: "I think we are agreed. Our report to the galactic council will recommend that the Human species will not be approached, at this time, to become part of the galactic community, because their obsessive focus on sex clouds their reason even in unrelated topics. Since that focus never ceases, they cannot be relied upon to act sensibly in any endeavour whatsoever."

Modifié par Ieldra2, 01 juin 2010 - 08:06 .

[mosor]

I run my ship military. No fraternization. On a serious note, I think the role romance thing is overdone and totally unnecessary .

[Inverness Moon]

Why wouldn't you want something new and interesting?



I'd romance Legion (non-physically of course) just to see how that would work out, if it even could. Curiosity.

[KalosCast]

mosor wrote...

I run my ship military. No fraternization. On a serious note, I think the role romance thing is overdone and totally unnecessary .

It definitely worked a lot better in the first game, where the game actively questioned your motives if you saved your LI on Virmire (and let's be honest, if you weren't romancing the Asari, you saved your LI on Virmire). As well as both of your characters repeatedly acknowledging that what they were doing would be rather frowned upon by the Alliance brass when they found out about it.

THen in ME2, Shep gets a full pass to **** everything in the galaxy and immediately takes advantage of it. I guess military life in the future is pretty repressive.

[nhsk]

Inverness Moon wrote...

Why wouldn't you want something new and interesting?

I'd romance Legion (non-physically of course) just to see how that would work out, if it even could. Curiosity.

Try to read what I said? That's why, if you can't pick a better argument than this don't bother.

[mosor]

Inverness Moon wrote...

Why wouldn't you want something new and interesting?

I'd romance Legion (non-physically of course) just to see how that would work out, if it even could. Curiosity.

Probably because most of those romances would be too risky. Besides, they do a poor job explaining inter-species relationships and how they work. At least in ME1, they explained the asari in depth, so it becomes a viable option.

[AntiChri5]

The vast majority of your complaints are simply "eeeeew do not want, not my thing"



However i wholeheartedly agree with you on the "romamce or nothing" complaint. Why the hell cant we be friends?

[nhsk]

AntiChri5 wrote...

The vast majority of your complaints are simply "eeeeew do not want, not my thing"

However i wholeheartedly agree with you on the "romamce or nothing" complaint. Why the hell cant we be friends?

Perhaps

If I wanted I wouldn't complain, would I?

Edit: To add a point, I find it unbelievable.

Modifié par nhsk, 01 juin 2010 - 08:15 .

[Jestina]

Female Shepards have poor choices for romance. I prefer none usually or Liara since she at least looks somewhat human. Kaiden was just too blah so I skipped on him and in ME2 you've got...even worse choices so I skip again or just stick with Liara. If Jack were a choice, I might try that because she is an interesting character.



And the Tali love fest thing will baffle me too. You don't even know what a Quarian looks like and they have that problem with being susceptible to infections(makes me wonder if they are missing an epidermal layer).





A lot of the time I go with the...I run this ship military approach. That means no fraternization allowed.

[Ieldra]

nhsk wrote...
Edit: To add a point, I find it unbelievable.

QFTx10000.

And here the short version of why. (the following rule does have exceptions, but they're exactly that: exceptions: odd minority preferences and the rare symbiotic co-evolution):

Inter-species romance is implausible because between any two individuals of any species, no mutual sexual attraction will exist unless, both being healthy and under the most supportive circumstances of their environment and life cycles, they could engage in sexual reproduction with each other.

As for the asari: how do they manage to be attractive to several species at the same time? If they really look like humans, why are krogan attracted?

Modifié par Ieldra2, 01 juin 2010 - 08:29 .

[Rzepik2]

nhsk wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

The vast majority of your complaints are simply "eeeeew do not want, not my thing"

However i wholeheartedly agree with you on the "romamce or nothing" complaint. Why the hell cant we be friends?

Perhaps

If I wanted I wouldn't complain, would I?

Edit: To add a point, I find it unbelievable.

You paid for the game so you have right to complain about quality stuff. But tastes... you know, it seems that majority wants some sweet alien looove. There's nothing wrong about that. I mean, at rational level. I was screaming when I saw Wrex/SHEpard fanart.
And alien love is 100% believable. Please. Human curiosity is a pooooooowerful force...

Modifié par Rzepik2, 01 juin 2010 - 08:57 .