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[Thatguy38]

[quote]ChanceRandom wrote...

[quote]nhsk wrote...

. And Garrus, well, Im a bit lost on him so someone else will have to fill out his cliche, but its there, Im sure.

And before the flames comes, these are just observations Ive noticed of the human condition. Generalizations not hard lined facts in every person, made obvious by the opinion of the OP, and others that feel like him.[/quote]

Garrus is the one person on the ship that is most like Shepard in the way he thinks. I am like you, I don't know what the romantic spin would be, I won't play a female shepard (and no I'm not against it, all my Jedis in Kotor were female), but I just don't feel it fits this particular story line. As far as just normal friendships go, I think Garrus will be the one person that is going to stick it out with you the entire way.

As for the romance angle, I think it's to lend a touch more realism. People often will have sexual relations with people they usually wouldn't in a situation of stress or hopelessness, because of the intense physical and often emotional experience involved, it's a way of taking your mind off your troubles when all else seems lost. I think people are reading WAY too much into this. I may die, there are several attractive members of the ship who work closely with me, and may have feelings for me, yeah, I'm gonna hit that. As for Tali, well, to put it bluntly, she's an easy lay, because she already idolizes Shepard. And lets be honest, with all them women walking around on the ship, I don't care how disciplined I am, I am going to be spending a lot of time in my quarters with some Jergens and my copy of Fornax.

Okay, a bit crude, but I am just in that kind of mood.

[brotag]

The only people that find the alien romance disgusting etc.. are the ones that roleplay as Shepard. I mean if they're in Shepard's situation, they sure as hell wouldn't be attracted to a quarian/turian/drell.



Yes, femshep had the worse romance option to choose. But for me, Garrus is perfect for her because he's the only male that had a history with her and followed Shepard throughout both games. I just like to see both of their relationships develop, doesn't mean I'm actually attracted to Garrus. It feels like watching every movie with romance subplot anyway.

[Weiser_Cain]

brotag wrote...

The only people that find the alien romance disgusting etc.. are the ones that roleplay as Shepard. I mean if they're in Shepard's situation, they sure as hell wouldn't be attracted to a quarian/turian/drell.

Yes, femshep had the worse romance option to choose. But for me, Garrus is perfect for her because he's the only male that had a history with her and followed Shepard throughout both games. I just like to see both of their relationships develop, doesn't mean I'm actually attracted to Garrus. It feels like watching every movie with romance subplot anyway.

A Quarian? Sure. A Turian? No way. A Drell? Not sober. But maybe I just didn't like Thane.

[Jestina]

The whole being attracted to a walking bio suit thing is just weird but I guess you could have worse fetish's.

[Weiser_Cain]

Jestina wrote...

The whole being attracted to a walking bio suit thing is just weird but I guess you could have worse fetish's.

They aren't walking biosuits anymore than humans are walking double stitched khakis.

Modifié par Weiser_Cain, 02 juin 2010 - 06:19 .

[Raphael diSanto]

In DA you can flirt with Oghren, but you can't go all the way - It's fine, it's humor, it's more adult.

That's not a racial incompatibility thing, that's a character thing. Oghren isn't actually interested.

Racially, a Female Dwarf Warden can sleep with a human male (Alistair).

There'd be no reason why a female human warden couldn't sleep with a dwarf male.

[vvDRUCILLAvv]

Astranagant wrote...

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

Shavon wrote...

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Truth.

I wish people would stop complaining about other forumites' desire for certain romances, though.  Just because this guy decides to open another thread to whine about them, doesn't mean people will stop sharing their desires . . . 

In that case, Krogan and Hanar romances for ME3!

Grunt romance for me 

Grunt is a buttface, Wrex is a far superior specimen.

Nightwriter wrote...

You run around killing prostitutes in GTA? How... interesting.

What's it like, living under a rock?

Wrex a far superior specimen? What are you smoking? Grunt is PURE Krogan you should be in awe!

[TomY90]

Too be honest it's more like Austin Powers syndrome in which he/she will pretty much do it with anyone to be honest I wouldn't put past shepherd to fall for Wrex or Grunt wouldn't suprise me. Too be honest I do agree with you I do like choice but the level of choice is too much I am fine about the choosing between characters like Ashley and Liara in ME1 it's simple and hard to split them. However ME2 Miranda, Jack, Tali and they are complete opposites to eachother and no offence I do not wish to do it with someone who is a mix of a duck and a bucket. To be honest tattoos and a bald head with more mental issues than are in a mental hospital ain't wat I call someone I like. Hope ME3 will have not go too far with doing every race.

[Bookman230]

Raphael diSanto wrote...

In DA you can flirt with Oghren, but you can't go all the way - It's fine, it's humor, it's more adult.

That's not a racial incompatibility thing, that's a character thing. Oghren isn't actually interested.

Racially, a Female Dwarf Warden can sleep with a human male (Alistair).

There'd be no reason why a female human warden couldn't sleep with a dwarf male.

Plus, a female dwarf can do it with Alistair and Zevran and a male can do it with Morrigan and Leliana. So, that point is kinda moot.

[janeym27]

TomY90 wrote...

Too be honest it's more like Austin Powers syndrome in which he/she will pretty much do it with anyone to be honest I wouldn't put past shepherd to fall for Wrex or Grunt wouldn't suprise me. Too be honest I do agree with you I do like choice but the level of choice is too much I am fine about the choosing between characters like Ashley and Liara in ME1 it's simple and hard to split them. However ME2 Miranda, Jack, Tali and they are complete opposites to eachother and no offence I do not wish to do it with someone who is a mix of a duck and a bucket. To be honest tattoos and a bald head with more mental issues than are in a mental hospital ain't wat I call someone I like. Hope ME3 will have not go too far with doing every race.

But the characters are different because, while there is a 'base' to Shepard, players can play him/her in very different ways. For example, you can play Shepard as anti-alien, only begrudgingly accepting their help when forced to, or you can play Shepard as someone who wants all the races to get along better, and humanity to prove it's worthy of a place. You don't like one character, so you romance another (or romance none, if you fancy it). Just because an option is there doesn't mean you are being forced to take it. So I don't quite understand why having 'total opposites' available as options is an issue. If they were all too similar you maight be stuck with noone you like.

As to the whole 'alien sex is wrong and weird and not for me' vibe in this thread: some players like certain characters, some don't. No one forces anyone to play a romance they do not want to. And Shepard isn't wandering up to random aliens and demanding sex: s/he is talking to people, building relationships with them. You get attracted to the person, not the body. That's how it is in real life with human/human romantic interaction, and so that's how the Mass Effect universe functions, the aliens being the sapient beings they are. And again: if any of the relationships don't play to your tastes, you don't have to play them. (Having said that, if you wanna RP a Shepard who would jump every Hanaar they meet, be my guest. I know onw of my Sheps keeps a copy of Fronax close in her quarters. ) I actually felt that the two main human romance relationships (Jacob and Miranda) were the weakest and least enjoyable to play in ME2. Jack I liked, but she was third to Garrus and Thane.

Hopefully, ME3 will allow us to concentrate on developing the relationships that already exist, rather than complicating things with lots of new ones and thereby diluting the experience. I do want there to be bromance options for all the characters who we aren't romancing, though (different dialogue depending on the relationship: not LESS of it.)

But hey, the most important thing to remember here has already been said by many: It's a game. A game that provides many options - not necessities - so, y'know, chillax.

Subjectivity. It is win.

[DOYOURLABS]

First off, I agree about the sex or nothing point and I wished we could have just friendships. But you were comparing science fiction to fantasy. Both are fiction and can be written any way the author desires. There isn't many logical points to be taken from that. In regards to not being attracted to aliens, that is more of your opinion. I happen to find the characters' stories and personalities interesting.

[kglaser]

DOYOURLABS wrote...

First off, I agree about the sex or nothing point and I wished we could have just friendships. But you were comparing science fiction to fantasy. Both are fiction and can be written any way the author desires. There isn't many logical points to be taken from that. In regards to not being attracted to aliens, that is more of your opinion. I happen to find the characters' stories and personalities interesting.

As do I.  Which is why I wish we could have had more dialogue, romance the person or not.
I was not sure why BW would give us these intriguing characters/backstories such that we naturally crave to know more about them, and then cut us off from conversations after the first two or so.

[vvDRUCILLAvv]

TomY90 wrote...

Too be honest it's more like Austin Powers syndrome in which he/she will pretty much do it with anyone to be honest I wouldn't put past shepherd to fall for Wrex or Grunt wouldn't suprise me. Too be honest I do agree with you I do like choice but the level of choice is too much I am fine about the choosing between characters like Ashley and Liara in ME1 it's simple and hard to split them. However ME2 Miranda, Jack, Tali and they are complete opposites to eachother and no offence I do not wish to do it with someone who is a mix of a duck and a bucket. To be honest tattoos and a bald head with more mental issues than are in a mental hospital ain't wat I call someone I like. Hope ME3 will have not go too far with doing every race.

Austin Powers syndrome? I certainly hope you are not implying that we are all just looking for a one night stand with whoever. I would also like to know just what is so wrong with being attracted to say Grunt or any other alien? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder don't you know.

[kglaser]

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

TomY90 wrote...

Too be honest it's more like Austin Powers syndrome in which he/she will pretty much do it with anyone to be honest I wouldn't put past shepherd to fall for Wrex or Grunt wouldn't suprise me. Too be honest I do agree with you I do like choice but the level of choice is too much I am fine about the choosing between characters like Ashley and Liara in ME1 it's simple and hard to split them. However ME2 Miranda, Jack, Tali and they are complete opposites to eachother and no offence I do not wish to do it with someone who is a mix of a duck and a bucket. To be honest tattoos and a bald head with more mental issues than are in a mental hospital ain't wat I call someone I like. Hope ME3 will have not go too far with doing every race.

Austin Powers syndrome? I certainly hope you are not implying that we are all just looking for a one night stand with whoever. I would also like to know just what is so wrong with being attracted to say Grunt or any other alien? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder don't you know.

Yeah TomY, I find that view a bit narrow-minded, as well.
Of course, that is *my* opinion.

[SkullandBonesmember]

Yeah. Take away/limit romance OPTIONS. BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM FREAKING 'SPLOSHUNS. Can't have enough.

[Onyx Jaguar]

SkullandBonesmember wrote...

Yeah. Take away/limit romance OPTIONS. BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM FREAKING 'SPLOSHUNS. Can't have enough.

Why must you deny the blood?

[Ecael]

SkullandBonesmember wrote...

Yeah. Take away/limit romance OPTIONS. BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM FREAKING 'SPLOSHUNS. Can't have enough.

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[Cheese Elemental]

You know why I go for the alien romance options?



Because the human ones are either boring or unlikeable.

Ashley is a horrid racist redneck.

Kaidan doesn't have much to say at all.

Miranda looks like Michael Jackson and has an utterly unlikeable personality.

Jacob is just a generic good guy sidekick.



Besides, Tali's hands and feet are hot.

[Burdokva]

After the previous few posts mentioned, am I the only one who thinks about making an Austin Powers Shepard? And shag the entire squad, and the crew, and the Normandy? Only me?...

[SkullandBonesmember]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Why must you deny the blood?

I DON'T deny combat in ME1. I don't for the millionth time. I ACKNOWLEDGE it. Why do you deny there was more of an emphasis on it in ME2 as we've established in the disappointment thread?

[Onyx Jaguar]

Burdokva wrote...

After the previous few posts mentioned, am I the only one who thinks about making an Austin Powers Shepard? And shag the entire squad, and the crew, and the Normandy? Only me?...

Do it baby!  Yeah!