Ieldra2 wrote...
Sajuro wrote...
Still I hardly think that domination of Aliens by Cerberus (Since I doubt TIM will allow the Alliance to take control as he'd probably pull something like "I AM HUMANITY!" If shep or anyone calls him out) would be preferable to being wiped out since Cerberus seems to be pretty short sighted in its plans for human Dominance. Also, Racial Superiority (Which the creed of Human Dominance is =p ) has never turned out well for the 'non-superior' race(s).
Just a moment....you think being wiped out - remember, we're talking about our whole species being wiped out for all time - would be preferrable to Cerberus domination? Perhaps then in your games, humanity deserves to be wiped out if this is the prevailing attitude...
Also, racial superiority is not the creed of human dominance. In the ME universe, species act mostly as nations, not as races. Which means that dominance by one species amounts to nothing more than regular empire-building. An ideology of racial superiority may be present or not, but I don't see such an attitude in Cerberus - nowhere in the games do they say non-humans are intrinsically inferior, deserve to be treated as slaves etc.. They just say "our only concern is humanity".
As for what empire-building may result in: look at the successful empires in human history. Sure they all have their history of militarism and occasional oppression, but apart from that, they have been pretty varied. An often-observed phenomenon was a cosmopolitan attitude at the core, a result not of any particular virtue, but of the necessity of having to integrate many different peoples. Why did they do this? Because oppression, while having its place in certain times and places, is not a fruitful global long-term strategy. In other words, there is no indication that a human interstellar empire would be any worse than the Roman or British empires in human history. Not ideal, maybe, but tolerable, and very much preferrable to extinction.
I'd rather die than submit to the control of Cerberus, because even the all human council is moving towards a more oppressive Citadel and TIM would probably continue tightening Humanity's grip. If TIM simply wanted governmental dominance, he would be pushing for Alliance Dominance as that is Humanity's united government.Cerberus seems to me to be a greatly inflated Terra Firma, though some people (like Kelly) like Aliens as well as humans, most of the people in it operate on the belief that humans are superior to aliens (conversly, aliens are inferior to humans). You'd be surprised how many crimes are committed when it comes to people who are just concerned with the welfare of their own race, and how the people who think other races are inferior tend to rise to the top under such regimes. You might want to ask people in India about how well the british treated them, or the people in Africa how cosmopolitan being carved up into chunks for European empires was. Again, who says that Cerberus is good for the long term? Doing whatever it takes tends to lead to a lot of short term solutions instead of looking for the solution that is best for all involved parties (though that isn't needed since we are only looking for Human dominance). More over, a one race council isn't an effective governing body as it will invariably fail to understand the cultures of the different races that make up citadel space and one man governing from the top will only have a narrower view.
If my humanity can do as much for the race(s) of the next cycle as the protheans did for us by destroying the collector base and leaving clues behind rather than set up a Cerberus dictatorship, then maybe extinction if preferable.
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