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I've always had to recruit everyone listed in the first dossier packet. The story doesn't progress until I do, regardless of whether I've recruited any combination of DLC characters in advance. Though I'd like to have the option to be more selective if only to see how the suicide mission plays with a minimal number of recruits.
Strange: with the Kasumi and Zaeed DLC, I believe I was able to not recruit at least one person (other than Mordin) from the first round of recruitments before Horizon. Perhaps it was due to loyalty missions for the DLC?
I'm thinking more along the lines of sending envoys to conduct surprise inspections and embedding security personnel whose job is to feed weekly reports to the head of Cerberus. I think the stakes are high enough to warrant that level of paranoia.
Perhaps, perhaps not. A large part of hands-off management, after all, is to not overburden the working staff with ass-covering and formalities. Unless something appears to go wrong, watching is all you can do, which is never going to be successful if your eyes are conspiring against you.
We really don't know what sort of measures Cerberus usually relies on, or how they are relevant to this situation. After all, the chief security officer (the ideal man to be TIM's extra eyes and ears) was in on the project abuses as well.
Teltin was implied to have been an exceptional happening early on in Cerberus and the Alliance's career. It could well have been the demonstration case prompting more intense oversight, such as what we see on the Normandy.
The Ascension Project is outside my knowledge base at this point. I have to admit that I never would have made the connection between Teltin research and the biotic upgrade scan though. Good observation.
You are an evil, evil man to take advantage of blood science! Malificar!
At the very least, I think there are always measures that can be taken to make acts of treachery exceedingly difficult for individuals to carry out. Jacob shouldn't have had to ask how a member of the medical staff gained access to the security control room. There should have been an armed guard (or guards) stationed there with explicit orders to secure and detain anyone who so much as eyeballed the area without sufficient clearance, no exceptions or excuses.
Two separate, entirely unrelated complications:
First, Cerberus isn't a super uptight organization, and this was a long-term isolation project. People know eachother, and are relaxed. They have to be on a closed environment, or everyone would be at eachother's throats. It only takes one moment of a dropped guard to lead to failure. (And even if the guard wasn't dropped: our man can conceivably kill the guards quickly and activate the mechs before the truth comes out.)
Another, more relevant: this is the sort of thing that comes down to quality or writing, not the lore-implied caliber of the participants. The writers will never write to your desired course of action all the time, nor are they well versed in a manner of practical applications that can muddle the story. The writers aren't military techno-thriller writers: they aren't going to write realistic security protocols and what not because those take a distant third to the plot and other concerns.
When trying to judge the quality of an organization, it really needs to be in comparison to other groups in the same setting and how they are intended to be. Which, in the Mass Effect universe, places Cerberus mostly par for course in competence, which is (lore-wise) rather high.
Good reasoning all around. Okay, just a few closing thoughts before I bow out:
I still think it's reasonable to be wary that another betrayal could come from within Cerberus, and it wouldn't necessarily have to be an exercise in sabotage. Even if Cerberus discovered and secured the secrets of all reaper technology in the most amicable way, what would stop yet another disgruntled, underpaid, and under appreciated scientist from selling that knowledge to the highest bidder or somehow exploit that knowledge to their advantage? You're right, premeditated acts of treason are unpredictable and particularly devastating.
Why would this necessarily be a bad thing?
At it's most cynical, the leaking of technology reduces Cerberus's relative advantage, diminishing its very ability to solely abuse the technology against others. (That the technology will be abused at all is inevitable post-Reapers, unless one assumes total genocide.) At it's most optimistic, the spread of the technology to other powers will allow other races to start building their own fleets to be better by the time the Reapers come, which is still a net gain for humanity and the galaxy.
The Illusive Man will have hopefully taken the fallout from Lazaras seriously enough to ensure that there won't be a repeat aboard the Collector base. "You're worried about something that will likely never happen (again)" isn't too reassuring, to be honest. At least it sounds like Illusive Man is in the habit of learning from the transgressions of his organization, based on what was shared from the novels.
If it makes you feel better, the post-Lazarus TIM mission summary explicitly states TIM's intent to do complete thorough checks of all Cerberus personel to find more people like Wilson, so there is a good grain of support for that hope.
I also think we're making an assumption that the rest of the galaxy will have access to reaper remains after Harbinger and its fleet are dealt with. We don't really know where or how that fight will be played out. In the event that Cerberus finds itself to be the most well equipped fighting force in the Galaxy, what's to stop them from using that technology to ensure human dominance by any means? And please don't say Shepard, because mine plans to retire to some remote tropical island on Earth if she survives the reaper threat. At that point, Cerberus can take whatever Cerberus wants. Except Shepard's island, because I'll see to it that she fights them over that much.
Given the number of Reapers to be slain and the number of opportunities we will have to fight them, it will be rather hard to believe that no one will get Reaper technology. Reaper technology also already exists in the form of Sovereign's remains, much of which remains officially unacounted for (we know the Turians took the Thannix canon from their portion, Cerberus built EDI and more, etc.), so in that sense the debate about anyone getting any Reaper tech is a moot point: various factions already have.
Human dominance by any means has the collary of being restricted to the means that will actually provide it. This goes not only short term, but long term as well: for the same reason 'at any cost' does not mean 'choose the most expensive option', 'by any means' does not mean 'any means will do.' Starting an outright war, for example, is not in human interests even if Humanity could win against the galaxy: it would cost so much for gains that could be gotten in often more subtle ways. Likewise, Cerberus creating another human/alien Reaper is unlikel because the gains of doing so (a single Reaper with Reaper technology capabilities) can be matched and exceeded by means without the cost (the war/hatred/isolation/retaliation by the target species).
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Although yes I agree US would recover fast but by no means would we be so easy going anymore after that, and of course with the way things are currently, would definitely cause panic and surely lead to war. While comparing the bomb on a country to a space station weapon that could threaten the entire galaxy (or just races), I don't think I like either of those options handing either over to either terrorist group is definitely a no go. And we've all seen the way TIM handles things, he would probably level an entire planet with that tech he finds and no even flinch, but of course "it's for the sake humanity" so it's all good right?
