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*sigh* Damn you Alistair!


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Verloren03

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*romance/plot spoilers!*

So I've beaten the game as a city elf rogue with the Alistair romance and opted to 1)make Anora queen and 2)take Morrigan's offer. Alistair and my elf lived happily ever after.

I'm restarting now as a human noble warrior, and this time I intended to try a different romance, Zevran or maybe even Leliana. However my first encounter at Ostagar with Alistair has got me feeling all gooey again :( He's just way too charming.

I have a question to those who played this as a noble with the Alistair romance - if you choose to become his queen at the landsmeet, does he still try and dump you because of the whole "grey wardens can't make babies" thing?

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If you sleep with him prior to the landsmeet, then you are his One True Love and he will make you his queen, yes. If you don't sleep with him or are not at 100%, then yes, he dumps you for the whole "we can't have an heir" thing. As a noblewoman, however, he's all, "Well, we'll work on that!"



One of my favorite pieces of dialogue in the entire game is when Alistair becomes king and he talks to you about getting married, and he says something like "You know, we may not be able to have kids!" and the PC can respond "Well it won't be for lack of trying!" :D It always makes me smile.

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Verloren03

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Excellent, thanks!

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PDXGamerGirl

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How do you get him to sleep with you? I know, crazy to be asking that as a woman, but, there it is. He's given me his rose, and will kiss me anytime, anywhere, but when I proposition him, he says "I just don't want to rush things."



I'm on XBox, and as far as I know there is no way to verify percentage and status since I can't "mouse over" the bar beneath the portrait but he's at high yellow. I'm guessing where the arrow is at on the bar plays a role, yes?

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Haasth

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The bar represents how much they like you. Left being hated, right being loved. The middle is naturally neutral. I do not know how much you require for the romance and such, currently haven't romanced Morrigan or Leliana myself yet.. In the process of getting to know them better and all that. But I'd guess almost completely yellow.

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I'm pretty sure Alistair has to have a 100% before he'll sleep with you. Boy was raised in the Chantry, after all. He takes these things seriously. :D



Try giving him more gifts and doing things he approves of, that usually helps.

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I can't remember when exactly he allowed me to sleep with him, it was way after he gave me the rose though. Even after that when I suggested we sleep together he said he 'still' wasn't ready and my approval went down like 3-5 points or something ridiculous. Jakia might be correct and you need his approval to be at 100%. I just fed him gifts, even if they were only 1 pointers :P

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PDXGamerGirl

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Thanks, Jakia, that's what I was wondering. I'll get that boy out of his manskirt yet. :) And good to know it has to be done before Landsmeet because I'll do some other side quests before heading there.

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I am replaying as a human noble so I can try for happily ever after ;D

Modifié par kaispan, 09 novembre 2009 - 11:43 .


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morrigan is easy. ;-)



but anyway, i think it's funny to hear a girl (i assume?) talk about Alistair like i feel about Morrigan. :-)

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Ask him about being a Templar. That will start the whole romance thing I believe.

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Jakia wrote...

If you sleep with him prior to the landsmeet, then you are his One True Love and he will make you his queen, yes. If you don't sleep with him or are not at 100%, then yes, he dumps you for the whole "we can't have an heir" thing. As a noblewoman, however, he's all, "Well, we'll work on that!"

One of my favorite pieces of dialogue in the entire game is when Alistair becomes king and he talks to you about getting married, and he says something like "You know, we may not be able to have kids!" and the PC can respond "Well it won't be for lack of trying!" :D It always makes me smile.


So to become queen did you nominate him nd him alone or did you try the persuade Alistair as King me as Queen thing?

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My girlfriend would agree with you. She keep saying things like "OH ALISTAIR! If you were real I would hump your leg" or "Don't say that Alistair, I'll have to tie you and have my way with you". Yes, she talks to the game. Is that weird?

I don't think it is, I also don't hold anything against her for liking Alistair because I have a huge thing for Morrigan (which oddly enough looks like my girlfriend...minus the makeup and the fact Morrigan is in a computer).



Anyway, She has Alistair at +67 I believe and has slept with him already. With her Dwarf Noble anyway.

I had somehow managed to sleep with Morrigan when I made camp right after Lothering. How weird.

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andysdead wrote...

morrigan is easy. ;-)

but anyway, i think it's funny to hear a girl (i assume?) talk about Alistair like i feel about Morrigan. :-)


I fully support any thread that demonstrates that lady gamers are just as interested in the toon sex as many of us gentleman gamers.

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I think that he's as about as charming as any Hollywood grade "pretty boy".



At first i thought that he is one of those "center-of-attention-hyperactive-sarcastic-guys", then he started whining and crying (oh boo hoo poor Duncan) at that point i was almost sure that he is going to have homosexual romance lines... but since they never came up i can safely say that he is a drama queen, sarcastic bastard that hides some deep psychological issues and dodge answers by giving witty replies.



If i weren't playing "good" character i swear i would have used every humiliating line on him and then smashed his face with a mace the moment i got an opportunity.

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I very much like Alistair. He seems to be the only non-tough-ass in the male trio.

Modifié par Haasth, 11 novembre 2009 - 11:03 .


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To get Alistair to sleep with you, you need to be about +80, he was all "I'm not ready yet" before that. It was hard not to poke fun at him for that with the possibility of him disapproving of me. Next play through, as much as I love him, I'll be mean to him just to see how he reacts. I don't know what choice I'm going to make at the end though >< It worries me how much I've ended up liking him, I end up grinning at the computer during most of our dialogue. Though I would tell him to man up a little sometimes if he were real.

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Haasth wrote...

I very much like Alistair. He seems to be the only non-tough-ass in the male trio.


Zevran is not a tough-ass.

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I know what you are talking about. I'm a guy, anyway. I find Alistair funny, charming and just a good catch. If I would have been female, I'd go for him easily!

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Having a soft spot for elves, I fully intended on romancing Zevran first and Alistair in a subsequent playthrough. That all changed once I started playing the game though... Alistair stole my girl gamer's heart pretty much from Lothering on. I was afraid he was going to be another Anomen but I'm so glad I was wrong! My ending options were very bittersweet and while part of me wished there was a chance of a "sugary sweet everyone is happy ending", I agree that the endings I've seen so far suited the overall tone of the game.



I also fully intended on playing a Dalish elf and an elven mage before branching off into a human noble origin story, but Alistair changed those plans too. :) I'm now playing as a human noble so I can romance him again and have a chance to be queen. Zevran and the Dalish will just have to wait!

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Zeuserich wrote...

I think that he's as about as charming as any Hollywood grade "pretty boy".

At first i thought that he is one of those "center-of-attention-hyperactive-sarcastic-guys", then he started whining and crying (oh boo hoo poor Duncan) at that point i was almost sure that he is going to have homosexual romance lines... but since they never came up i can safely say that he is a drama queen, sarcastic bastard that hides some deep psychological issues and dodge answers by giving witty replies.
If i weren't playing "good" character i swear i would have used every humiliating line on him and then smashed his face with a mace the moment i got an opportunity.

Well, there you are. You weren't born a bastard of the king and kept hidden for political reasons and sent off to some religious school to have no motherly upbringing. It's not that he's a hollywood pretty boy, but that men who can express honest emotions are far more interesting than men who are all closed off and bluff around instead of just feeling what they're feeling.

Human sensitivity is not a weakness. A guy mourning someone who just died violently and needlessly, someone he thought of like a father (because his father hid from him)... how painful is that?... well, you can either mourn, or maybe be all sealed off like a tin can without an opener (that is a relationship killer) or...you can be a gang banger and go out and shoot for revenge.  Living in some parts of Los Angeles is like living in a war zone because of that kind of thinking. In real life.
Lighten up! I think the consensus is in, most of us like a guy who isn't like wood at the core.
I didn't think Alistair was whiny at all.

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PDXGamerGirl wrote...

How do you get him to sleep with you? I know, crazy to be asking that as a woman, but, there it is. He's given me his rose, and will kiss me anytime, anywhere, but when I proposition him, he says "I just don't want to rush things."

I'm on XBox, and as far as I know there is no way to verify percentage and status since I can't "mouse over" the bar beneath the portrait but he's at high yellow. I'm guessing where the arrow is at on the bar plays a role, yes?


You can sleep with him when he's the one that initiates a kiss. If you don't have that yet, make sure you've done his side quests and given him as many gifts as you can. In Redcliffe castle in the Arl's study, you'll find his mother's pendant. He likes magic inspired things. I found he enjoys things with demonic carvings on them, which is sort of odd for a Templar, but there it is.

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i got my kiss from the pretty lady in Redcliff Inn and gave her 5g to start a new life




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My little elf played most of the game as a good and noble person, but I just couldn't bring myself to make him king because I didn't want my toon to be dumped by him. So I suppose she has a bit of a possessive streak in her.



I also had "As Long as Your Mine" from Wicked playing in my head during most of the seduction scenes.

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Mortae42 wrote...

My little elf played most of the game as a good and noble person, but I just couldn't bring myself to make him king because I didn't want my toon to be dumped by him. So I suppose she has a bit of a possessive streak in her.

I also had "As Long as Your Mine" from Wicked playing in my head during most of the seduction scenes.


Hmm, I had "Endlessly" by Muse in my head. :P