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[rastakore]

kraidy1117 wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

I hope they bring back the light, airy music of ME1. ME2's music pales in comparison. 

Tell that to TIMs theme, Miri, Tali, Legion, Garrus, Samara, Normandy reborn, Normandy attack, end run, crash landing, jump drive, Horozine(sp), Reflection and the suicide mission.

Yep. ME1 had some good tunes (I love the main theme that plays on the menu and Ilos when you meet Vigil and they should bring it back) but ME2 score is much more powerfull, I especially love the music when Subject Zero escapes and Kasumi's misson.

[TelexFerra]

Self-preservation wins out every time.

[Blackveldt]

Hm. Well, I liked Casey's statement regarding more darkness in addition to lighter themes. ME3 will end Shepard's story, so it should be appropriately epic. In my opinion, that means going to an extremely dark place (punctuated by light, etc) before getting to its victorious resolution. The Reapers are coming; they are all-powerful and intent on destroying the galaxy. The Council isn't listening to Shepard, people are unaware of the danger and/or unwilling to admit that it exists, and the only group willing to assist is a terrorist group headed by a man bent on power and the dominance of humanity. Depending upon how the player ended ME2, this situation can get even worse. Not to mention the impending war between the Quarians and the Geth. ME3 should be appropriately dark and desperate. I want Shepard to struggle. I want a 'locker scene' (ME1 reference) to show its effects. The sweetest victories are the ones for which you work the hardest, trudging through the accumulated adversities.

Regardless, I'm confident Bioware will do a wonderful job, though I am uncertain as to how it will be released as soon as 2011 (assuming the rumors are true).

Modifié par Blackveldt, 04 juin 2010 - 07:00 .

[harry dread]

if they mean lighthearted as in someone shooting miranda in the ass with a water pistol and shouting 'wet bum', i'm all for it

Modifié par harry dread, 04 juin 2010 - 07:54 .

[Archereon]

kraidy1117 wrote...

spacehamsterZH wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
if you where expecting ME3 to be darker then you clearly don't follow other trilogy's.

Yeah, because Return of the King is such a cheer-fest.

Anyway, I don't see how what Casey's saying here really implies it's going to be noticeably more lighthearted. I wouldn't be surprised if the general tone was a bit more like ME1 again, I think much of the darker feel of ME2 came from the fact that it's set in the Terminus systems, and I expect we'll be seeing other parts of the galaxy again in ME3. It also generally works well if the third part of a trilogy has kind of a "going home" feel to it where the story returns to where it started in terms of tone and location, so I think there's a good chance of something like that happening.

RotK was lighter then Two Towers, or did you and me read the same book or watch the same movie? The last part of the trilogy is always lighter then the second part.

except in the odd trilogy tragedy.

[DuffyMJ]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Well, with the worst ending the galaxy is lost, but that´s not canon. But as dark second parts of trilogies go, it wasn´t that much (I also think ESB was not that much, after all Vader also fails his goals). I like the ending fittig the tone of the story though, and often in series everything is going to hell till the 10 last minutes/pages/whatever and then we get a too happy ending. Can be done well, but if you abuse dark, it shouldn´t be all laughs and joy at the end.

When I was little I didn't find Empire Strikes Back dark at all... I mean, the Empire "struck" back, but every rebel alliance person escaped Hoth, blew up a bunch of walkers, f'd up some star destroyers with the ion cannon and the asteroid field, and they had a nice safe looking fleet at the end to go back to!

I don't know why everyone likes it so much out of all the Star Wars movies I found the never-ending Hoth scenes to be PAINFULLY boring when I was a kid.  I loved Return of the Jedi... Who cares about the Ewoks?  Why does everyone scoff at them as if they were the whole movie and never mention anything about the HUGE, AWESOME all-out brawl in space between the rebel and imperial fleets?!!?!?!?! To this day I think that was the best space battle ever -- better than the Episode 3 one or any Star Trek one. I remember jumping and rewinding and rewatching the Super Star Destroyer getting blown up and all those Admiral ackbar fish people cheering it crashing again and again, haha..  But then again, when I was little I wanted to fly an Xwing I though the Jedi were boring! 

I think Mass Effect 3 will be challenging because it's really about commandos, not about massive space fleets and the like -- yet the main antagonists are a fleet of starships...

Modifié par DuffyMJ, 04 juin 2010 - 09:38 .

[GreenDragon37]

Blackveldt wrote...

Hm. Well, I liked Casey's statement regarding more darkness in addition to lighter themes. ME3 will end Shepard's story, so it should be appropriately epic. In my opinion, that means going to an extremely dark place (punctuated by light, etc) before getting to its victorious resolution. The Reapers are coming; they are all-powerful and intent on destroying the galaxy. The Council isn't listening to Shepard, people are unaware of the danger and/or unwilling to admit that it exists, and the only group willing to assist is a terrorist group headed by a man bent on power and the dominance of humanity. Depending upon how the player ended ME2, this situation can get even worse. Not to mention the impending war between the Quarians and the Geth. ME3 should be appropriately dark and desperate. I want Shepard to struggle. I want a 'locker scene' (ME1 reference) to show its effects. The sweetest victories are the ones for which you work the hardest, trudging through the accumulated adversities.

Regardless, I'm confident Bioware will do a wonderful job, though I am uncertain as to how it will be released as soon as 2011 (assuming the rumors are true).

QFT! This is exactly how ME3 should be. It should have some light in it, but a lot of dark. The Reapers are coming, about 99% of the galaxy dosen't believe you, and only a terrorist organization with a mad man in charge and Anderson and your squad does. The situation needs to seem desperate, and yes, the locker moments gave me that "we are doomed, there is nothing I can do" feeling. I loved that!

I guess it was because the mechs and mecs didn't really give me that feeling, nor did the Collectors. The Collectors were just mindless husks, tools for their masters, the Reapers, the real threat. Yes, they were a threat, but they seemed like a minor threat compared to Saren, Soverign, and the Heretic Geth. ME1 made me feel like the threat of Reaper invasion was very near, litterally right on our doorstep. ME2 just barely gave me that sence of desperation, while ME1 gave me a great sence of desperation.

Examples:
Unraveling the Reaper mystery
The sacrifice on Virmire
The Council not believing you
Udina locking down the ship and leaving you feeling helpless
Finding Vigil and learning more about the Prothean genocide
Soverign and Saren's assault on the Citadel

That kinda stuff, ya know?

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 04 juin 2010 - 11:12 .

[TelexFerra]

Blackveldt wrote...



Regardless, I'm confident Bioware will do a wonderful job, though I am uncertain as to how it will be released as soon as 2011 (assuming the rumors are true).

Yea, I'd put my money on early 2012

[eternalnightmare13]

I think ME2 had some brilliant comedic scenes.  The bar on Illium is a perfect example of this as well as some of Joker's ad lib.  They did a good job of balancing that with the darkness of the derelict Reaper and Collector base, for example. 

Saren always felt like a threat to the entire galaxy to me.  Zhu's Hope, Virmire, and etc.  The geth and Saren felt like a big threat.  Collectors felt more isolated.  They were only going after humanity.  That made it more personal, and gave me the impression that the rest of the galaxy didn't give a vorcha's ass about humanity despite what Shepard did for them at the Citadel battle.

[ResidentNoob]

rastakore wrote...

ME1 had some good tunes (I love the main theme that plays on the menu and Ilos when you meet Vigil and they should bring it back)

QFT.

[praetor_alpha]

If ME3 is going to be lighthearted, Shepard needs to have an elcor squad/ship mate. There was a distinct lack of elcor in ME2 vs 1.

Modifié par praetor_alpha, 05 juin 2010 - 06:42 .

[Jesusland]

More dark please!

[InvaderErl]

Mass Effect 1's soundtrack was good but at times it still very much felt like a video game soundtrack whereas the second was one was movie quality.

[kraidy1117]

ME2's music IMHO was the best soundtrack Bioware has ever done. All the themes where well done and many themes like TIM's theme, legions theme, End run, crash landing, jump drive, reflection and the suicide mission where just outstanding.

[InvaderErl]

Jeirt wrote...

The game will never reach the subtly-implemented lightheartedness of certain musicals. Nevahr.

Well, unless it became one. But that would just be odd, now wouldn't it! [i]I want it to happen. 

ME3 being a musical would be...

The greatest thing ever, but Mordin has to have a few numbers all too himself.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 05 juin 2010 - 08:29 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

We can all agree ME3 is supposed to show us everything, and put an end to every unanswered question. Unlike ME2, which was just the "infix".

[kraidy1117]

Jeirt wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
ME2's music IMHO was the best soundtrack Bioware has ever done. All the themes where well done and many themes like TIM's theme, legions theme, End run, crash landing, jump drive, reflection and the suicide mission where just outstanding.

I also found Jade Empire's soundtrack to be very nice, with a fitting atmosphere. The main theme was amazing, and certain ethereal tracks from the OST (Water Dragon, Sanctuary) are still stuck in my mind to this day.

But when it comes to the quality of all the tracks overall, I'd have to agree with you!

I am not saying other Bioware soundtracks sucked, they are all good, but I found ME2 to have the best because the music wasj ust outstanding. I don't beleive that ME2 soundtrack can stand up to Galaxy 2 soundtrack and OoT is still my fav soundtrack of all time.

[kraidy1117]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

We can all agree ME3 is supposed to show us everything, and put an end to every unanswered question. Unlike ME2, which was just the "infix".

Me2 is the middle, it was not supposed to asnwere alot of the big questions, only answer some and make some more major ones.

[blackashes411]

Games don't have to be dark to be epic.

If ME3 isn't going to be darker, as least balance that by making it more epic. ME1 was fun, but we don't want a TOO EASY GOING feeling like we got in ME1 again.

Modifié par blackashes411, 05 juin 2010 - 08:36 .

[kraidy1117]

blackashes411 wrote...

Games don't have to be dark to be epic.

If ME3 isn't going to be darker, as least balance that by making it more epic. We don't want a TOO EASY GOING feeling like we got in ME1.

I don't think ME3 is oging to be personal like ME2 was, but I think it will be more epic and Bioware should give us moments where we feel that it is imposeable to beat the Reapers. Maybe half way through the game, something big happens that mindf*cks us.