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Wow I knew Howe was a piece of work but... ouch


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I found it sad that Howe dies so quickly. Usually I´m opposed to torture but for him I think making an exception would be appropriate.

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Arl Howe really was an enormous waste of Tim Curry's talent. Also typecasting.

Modifié par Astranagant, 06 juin 2010 - 03:59 .


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Asdara wrote...
Tonight I was feeling saucy however with my Human Noble Rouge and Howe's comeback just FLOORED me.  I mean... Andraste's Flaming Sword!  He made my mother kiss his FEET in front my daddy?! :crying:  I am just... wow.

Strange.

With me he just remarked "is there where I'm supposed confess my regret for creating a monster?" or something to that effect.

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thegreateski wrote...

Asdara wrote...
Tonight I was feeling saucy however with my Human Noble Rouge and Howe's comeback just FLOORED me.  I mean... Andraste's Flaming Sword!  He made my mother kiss his FEET in front my daddy?! :crying:  I am just... wow.

Strange.

With me he just remarked "is there where I'm supposed confess my regret for creating a monster?" or something to that effect.

After that he says something like 'Let me show you how it's done. I made your mother kiss my feet before she died. It was the last thing your father saw. Meet my sword and change that.' I swear, true or not, it was the perfect comeback.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

Asdara wrote...
Tonight I was feeling saucy however with my Human Noble Rouge and Howe's comeback just FLOORED me.  I mean... Andraste's Flaming Sword!  He made my mother kiss his FEET in front my daddy?! :crying:  I am just... wow.

Strange.

With me he just remarked "is there where I'm supposed confess my regret for creating a monster?" or something to that effect.

After that he says something like 'Let me show you how it's done. I made your mother kiss my feet before she died. It was the last thing your father saw. Meet my sword and change that.' I swear, true or not, it was the perfect comeback.


As much as I hate to say it. It's badass.
Just this "Let me show you how it's done".  

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Tirigon wrote...

I found it sad that Howe dies so quickly. Usually I´m opposed to torture but for him I think making an exception would be appropriate.


Despite the fact that I hate him more than I hate most fictional characters, I just absolutely can't do that. He should have been left to rot in his jail cell during the attack of Denerim, and if he survived, thrown in jail.

Torturing him makes you no different than him.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

I found it sad that Howe dies so quickly. Usually I´m opposed to torture but for him I think making an exception would be appropriate.


Despite the fact that I hate him more than I hate most fictional characters, I just absolutely can't do that. He should have been left to rot in his jail cell during the attack of Denerim, and if he survived, thrown in jail.

Torturing him makes you no different than him.


Yeah, considering Howe was mercilessly ambitious and excessively greedy, it would be appropriate for him to spend the last decades of his life in a squalid cell.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

I found it sad that Howe dies so quickly. Usually I´m opposed to torture but for him I think making an exception would be appropriate.


Despite the fact that I hate him more than I hate most fictional characters, I just absolutely can't do that. He should have been left to rot in his jail cell during the attack of Denerim, and if he survived, thrown in jail.

Torturing him makes you no different than him.

At this point, I doubt a lot of HN are really looking to take the high road here. They could still be different by not going after his family but does it really matter if someone came along later and declared that they 'weren't so differen't after all'? They just want vengeance.

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My HN wanted vengeance, but he wasn't going to slaughter a man's family, even Howe's. It just hits way too close to home. Instead, I intimidated him, got a bit of recognition from him that he was, indeed, in deep ****, and proceeded to polish Starfang with his right lung.

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Howe is an opportunistic lickspitttle and a monster and as such has surrenderd his right to be considered a part of humanity. I to am disappointed that i could not toss Howe on a rack and give it a few turns. Maybe a red hot poker in a nether place, maybe the slow removal of his genetalia cauterized with hot iron to prevent him from bleeding out. His screams of pain would be music, and i the conductor in my symphony of slow agonizing death, I would need time, i am about to compose a masterpiece to rival the masters themselves.

How would this make me any better than Howe? It would not, as a matter of fact it would make me just like Howe for a moment with one major difference, he is getting what he deserves, Howes victims did not. Oh man i can see why the developers made him die quick, the Marquis de Sade would be a rank amateur if i was allowed to play with Howe for awhile. I would be more kind to a darkspawn in the same circumstances as i expect no humanity from them, but Howe is human and deserves no mercy for forgetting that. The last thing he would experience before he died is his humanity.
Asai

Modifié par asaiasai, 06 juin 2010 - 07:47 .


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Kryyptehk wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

I found it sad that Howe dies so quickly. Usually I´m opposed to torture but for him I think making an exception would be appropriate.


Despite the fact that I hate him more than I hate most fictional characters, I just absolutely can't do that. He should have been left to rot in his jail cell during the attack of Denerim, and if he survived, thrown in jail.

Torturing him makes you no different than him.


It is not about being better. What matters is that he should have a chance to regret his actions. If you just kill him he doesn´t have enough time for that.

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asaiasai wrote...

Howe is an opportunistic lickspitttle and a monster and as such has surrenderd his right to be considered a part of humanity. I to am disappointed that i could not toss Howe on a rack and give it a few turns. Maybe a red hot poker in a nether place, maybe the slow removal of his genetalia cauterized with hot iron to prevent him from bleeding out. His screams of pain would be music, and i the conductor in my symphony of slow agonizing death, I would need time, i am about to compose a masterpiece to rival the masters themselves.

How would this make me any better than Howe? It would not, as a matter of fact it would make me just like Howe for a moment with one major difference, he is getting what he deserves, Howes victims did not. Oh man i can see why the developers made him die quick, the Marquis de Sade would be a rank amateur if i was allowed to play with Howe for awhile. I would be more kind to a darkspawn in the same circumstances as i expect no humanity from them, but Howe is human and deserves no mercy for forgetting that. The last thing he would experience before he died is his humanity.
Asai


This.  And being "better" than someone is hardly as satisfying when they are the bastard who murdered your baby nephew, sister-in-law, mother, father, friends, guards, cook, servants, etc. for the ambition of ruling your lands.  

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Tirigon wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

I found it sad that Howe dies so quickly. Usually I´m opposed to torture but for him I think making an exception would be appropriate.


Despite the fact that I hate him more than I hate most fictional characters, I just absolutely can't do that. He should have been left to rot in his jail cell during the attack of Denerim, and if he survived, thrown in jail.

Torturing him makes you no different than him.


It is not about being better. What matters is that he should have a chance to regret his actions. If you just kill him he doesn´t have enough time for that.

I doubt torture is going to make Howe regret any of his actions. He'll just curse you and be that much gladder he murdered your family.

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sylvanaerie wrote...

Nathaniel is nothing like his father (which was a nice surprise for my HNF when I played Awakenings). I usually pick the persuade/intimidate option during the Howe confrontation in Denerim. Much more satisfying to watch the bastard quake in his boots at 'the Cousland glare' you got from dear ole Dad.

The last thing Howe sees in my games:

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I did not read through the hole thread, Just untill I reached this post. And the Warden and Alistair look beautifull.. Why can the Xbox not have this quality? I bought a HD TV just for Dragon Age and it is not half as good as this.. :<

Anyway, Ontopic.. Revenge only leads to misery and self-hatred.