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AZ RUSH

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Yes I see. One problem though, in my skimming of the OP I seemed to have missed you mention that in ME3 your only squad mate should be Ash, complete with 6 pokemon of your choice.



In all seriousness though, I would rather have Mass Effect remain a shooter/RPG hybrid, it makes the game more compelling both combat and story wise for me.

I know most people here would disagree, but I'm mainly a FPS and TPS player before an RPG player, so I like the shooter elements. =P

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It learns that there are a lot of nerds out there.

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AwesomeAuger wrote...

It learns that there are a lot of nerds out there.


Nerds?  What are they doing here on an internet forum about videogames???  :whistle:

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AZ RUSH wrote...

Yes I see. One problem though, in my skimming of the OP I seemed to have missed you mention that in ME3 your only squad mate should be Ash, complete with 6 pokemon of your choice.

Ashley's starter Pokémon:

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SuperMedbh wrote...

AwesomeAuger wrote...

It learns that there are a lot of nerds out there.

Nerds? What are they doing here on an internet forum about videogames??? {smilie}

All these nerds, geeks, fanboys and fangirls posting on a BioWare fan forum with their silly BioWare avatars and silly BioWare character signatures for their BioWare character support threads. There's so many of them!

:police:

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Holy ****, Ecael... I continue to be amazed at the amount of time you spend at creating and hijacking topics like this,

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Holy ****, Ecael... I continue to be amazed at the amount of time you spend at creating and hijacking topics like this,

This is actually one of the shorter threads of the new ones I'm currently working on.

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It's kind of a shame that most people whose this topic is aimed at is too dense to "get the joke" :P

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Ecael wrote...

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:wub: Love it.

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cachx wrote...

It's kind of a shame that most people whose this topic is aimed at is too dense to "get the joke" :P

I'm as dense as spoiled milk can get....

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Fail

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Pokemon is one of the traditional JRPG's based on grinding, leveling up and collecting. While this is not bad by any means it does not work well in the context of a fast pased action adventure story, therefore the Pokemon format would not work well in the ME universe.

Pokemon has flourished because it takes a type of game that many people really like, the JRPG, and does a good job with that genre in a mobile family friendly format that has existed ever since 1998. Basically it's good fun distraction while on the go for those who like stratigic JRPG's. The appeal of pokemon is neither the story, (which is almost nonexistant,) the making of moral choices that affect the world around you (completely nonexistant,) or being part of a believable immersive world. 

Mass Effect is more about an epic story line, and making different choices that will influence your game universe. Also Mass Effect is completely (with the exception of a single bad Iphone game) a home console game and an M rated one at that.

These differences do not make one more of an RPG than the other, it just makes them RPG with different focus.  Pokemon focus of stragic turn base gameplay, collecting, grinding and leveling up with Mass Effect's is on story telling, making moral choices and intense fast pased stragic squad based gameplay.

I do agree with some points that Ecael brought up. I see a need in Mass Effect to have some equipment choices be an actual choice instead of Gun B is better that Gun A therefore I will stick with Gun B. That was sort of done with the Geth Pule Rifle vs the Battle Rifle and the Locus SMG vs. the Tempest SMG I would like to see more of this. I also believe that the loading screens were a step back from the devices used in ME1 the need the enter/exit your ship via the loading bay, the cut scenes of the Normandy dropping the Mako and yes even the elevators, these elements kept you in the game world while the loading screens and mission summary screens only pulled you out of it.

Modifié par sky_captain, 04 juin 2010 - 05:32 .


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Ecael wrote...


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Yay!  Pikachu for squadmate in ME!  :wub:

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Ecael wrote...

Ashley's starter Pokémon:

*snip of the impossible

I'm sorry Ecael, I have nothing but respect for you...BUT... Ashley could never be Ash...

...however; Ash COULD be Ashley;)


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Ecael wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Holy ****, Ecael... I continue to be amazed at the amount of time you spend at creating and hijacking topics like this,

This is actually one of the shorter threads of the new ones I'm currently working on.

I love it how you just casually say you're "working" on multiple threads.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Holy ****, Ecael... I continue to be amazed at the amount of time you spend at creating and hijacking topics like this,

This is actually one of the shorter threads of the new ones I'm currently working on.

I love it how you just casually say you're "working" on multiple threads.

Since the release of Mass Effect 2, I've set aside a DLC team to work on multiple threads at the same time.

From this:
Morality & Squad Banter in ME3 -- Building Consensus.1

I actually have three more of those threads I want to make, fresh with more ideas and 'shopped pictures using some of the suggestions I've listed in the original post. The problem is figuring out a way of presenting all those ideas without a giant wall of text.

I'm also working on an ME2 guide that some may find very helpful...

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An rpg is what you define it as.

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spiros9110 wrote...

An rpg is what you define it as.

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You know, my problem with Mass Effect 2 is that it seems to have done away with RPG elements rather than refining them.



Fandom complains about the inventory, largely on the basis that it's annoying to manage and a bit too large?

-Bioware removes the inventory completely, from Shepard AND squaddies.



Fandom complains about the mako?

-Bioware removes mako, replacing it with a gimmicky hovertank...

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Ecael wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Holy ****, Ecael... I continue to be amazed at the amount of time you spend at creating and hijacking topics like this,

This is actually one of the shorter threads of the new ones I'm currently working on.

I love it how you just casually say you're "working" on multiple threads.

Since the release of Mass Effect 2, I've set aside a DLC team to work on multiple threads at the same time.

From this:
Morality & Squad Banter in ME3 -- Building Consensus.1

I actually have three more of those threads I want to make, fresh with more ideas and 'shopped pictures using some of the suggestions I've listed in the original post. The problem is figuring out a way of presenting all those ideas without a giant wall of text.

I'm also working on an ME2 guide that some may find very helpful...


As I said Ecael, people are more willing to read a wall of text if you break it up into small bite sized sections and thrown in some pictures. :happy:

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Archereon wrote...

You know, my problem with Mass Effect 2 is that it seems to have done away with RPG elements rather than refining them.

Fandom complains about the inventory, largely on the basis that it's annoying to manage and a bit too large?
-Bioware removes the inventory completely, from Shepard AND squaddies.

Fandom complains about the mako?
-Bioware removes mako, replacing it with a gimmicky hovertank...


I agree, just an better interface would have been far easier to do in my opinon. That was what really needed for the inventory, an much better interface.

The mako... was an milage may vary. I think I actually prefer the mako now instead of the hovertank.

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Andrew_Waltfeld wrote...

Archereon wrote...

You know, my problem with Mass Effect 2 is that it seems to have done away with RPG elements rather than refining them.

Fandom complains about the inventory, largely on the basis that it's annoying to manage and a bit too large?
-Bioware removes the inventory completely, from Shepard AND squaddies.



Fandom complains about the mako?
-Bioware removes mako, replacing it with a gimmicky hovertank...


I agree, just an better interface would have been far easier to do in my opinon. That was what really needed for the inventory, an much better interface.

The mako... was an milage may vary. I think I actually prefer the mako now instead of the hovertank.


Bioware should learn to hardly listen to there fan base...most just **** for no reason

Modifié par ShamieGTX, 04 juin 2010 - 08:07 .


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Archereon wrote...

You know, my problem with Mass Effect 2 is that it seems to have done away with RPG elements rather than refining them.

Fandom complains about the inventory, largely on the basis that it's annoying to manage and a bit too large?
-Bioware removes the inventory completely, from Shepard AND squaddies.

Fandom complains about the mako?
-Bioware removes mako, replacing it with a gimmicky hovertank...

The game critics were the ones who complained about the inventory, Mako and elevators. The inventory was replaced with an upgrade system, the Mako with the Hammerhead, and the elevators with stairs and detailed loading screens (although the Citadel Rapid Transit loading screen in Mass Effect 1 looked quite cool).

Bioware should learn to hardly listen to there fan base...most just **** for no reason

So BioWare shouldn't listen to you too because you said that they should listen to you when you say that they shouldn't listen to you because they listen too much?

PARADOX!

Modifié par Ecael, 04 juin 2010 - 08:41 .


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I stand behind you and your report Ecael. You are a damned hero in my books.

Making a valid point and delivering it with sarcasm is an instant win in my eyes.

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I love the upgrade system.

Then again, I'm one of those weird people who likes planet scanning...



Overall it makes more sense to stick to the same weapons and add stuff to them, than use 75 different weapons over the course of what, several months?

It's also explained exactly how you upgrade your guns (onboard tracking, for example). Ofcourse, this means you'll have to read more than the '10% damage increase' lines. I know reading is hard.

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Khayness wrote...

I stand behind you and your report Ecael. You are a damned hero in my books.
Making a valid point and delivering it with sarcasm is an instant win in my eyes.

Damned hero, or Goddamned hero?

:devil: