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[Inquisitor Recon]

She offered me a blank check! I intended on taking it and living like damn hell ass kings before Thane came in and screwed that up! What a jerk.

[Barquiel]

I would save her!

- Nassana:wub:
- Armali Council tech +credits would be more useful than Thane (=useless)

[Lemonwizard]

Nightwriter wrote...

I was kinda surprised she died no matter what. I wanted to send her to Omega to be Aria's boot washer.

Am I the only one who thinks destroying someone's pride and self-image is better than killing them? I suppose so...

Aside from the fact that cruel and unusual punishment doesn't really accomplish anything, somebody who's dead can't rebel against their circumstances and try to come back for revenge later.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

No. Save her? Are you kidding? If it wasn't Thane I would probably arrest or kill her myself.

[InvaderErl]

brain_damage wrote...

ME! I really liked Nassana, in the first game she was such an interesting character...and then in the second she seemed like a completely different person. I wish there was an alternative - to prevent Thane from killing her =/

I know she seemed like such a nice person. Tricking you into killing her sister because she was threatening her political position, they really changed her alright.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 03 juin 2010 - 08:27 .

[RyuGuitarFreak]

InvaderErl wrote...

brain_damage wrote...

ME! I really liked Nassana, in the first game she was such an interesting character...and then in the second she seemed like a completely different person. I wish there was an alternative - to prevent Thane from killing her =/

I know she seemed like such a nice person. Tricking you into killing her sister because she was threatening her political position, they really changed her alright.

Yeah, such a nice woman. What a cute family of asari were they.

After the mission I wanted to punch her face. Manipulative political ****.

[Nightwriter]

InvaderErl wrote...

brain_damage wrote...

ME! I really liked Nassana, in the first game she was such an interesting character...and then in the second she seemed like a completely different person. I wish there was an alternative - to prevent Thane from killing her =/

I know she seemed like such a nice person. Tricking you into killing her sister because she was threatening her political position, they really changed her alright.

Well, after I found out her sister was a slaver she became less a villain and more a conniving member of an even more dark and conniving cutthroat family.

This interested me, yes. I didn't think she was a saint and I wouldn't have turned my back on her, but I found the twistings of her family interesting.

I think they darkened her in ME2 to make us more okay with her dying.

[InvaderErl]

Nightwriter wrote...


Well, after I found out her sister was a slaver she became less a villain and more a conniving member of an even more dark and conniving cutthroat family.

How did she become less of a villain when she was initally just  presented as a victim. The slaver/sister revelation is the first time she's presented as being bad.

Nightwriter wrote...
I think they darkened her in ME2 to make us more okay with her dying.

Can't say I really agree with that. She was presented as a self-serving amoral woman in both games.

She has people killed if it suits her but is pragmatic as she tries to deal with Shepard reasonably in both situations.

In 2 she's a bit more anxious because she's expecting a reprisal from her family, but they certainly didn't darken her.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 03 juin 2010 - 08:39 .

[Nightwriter]

InvaderErl wrote...

How did she become less of a villain when she was initally just  presented as a victim. The slaver/sister revelation is the first time she's presented as being bad.

Sorry. I forgot to say I had foreknowledge of this mission before I played it. I had already read that she was manipulating you, I went into the mission knowing.

InvaderErl wrote...

Can't say I really agree with that. She was presented as a self-serving amoral woman in both games.

She has people killed if it suits her but is pragmatic as she tries to deal with Shepard reasonably in both situations.

In 2 she's a bit more anxious because she's expecting a reprisal from her family, but they certainly didn't darken her.

In ME1 she was arranging the death of her sister, who was an evil slaver attempting to blackmail her.

Because her sister was a villain as well, it didn't really paint her as the ultimate evil. Just one cutthroat killing another.

But in ME2, she is actually hurting innocents with blatant disregard and disdain for their welfare.

[JedTed]

I like how we find that Nassana is even shadier than in the first game. Before she was just a diplomat who's sister happened to be a slaver, i never expected her to be an evil corperate billionare on Illium.



I am disapointed that there wasn't some alternate way to approach that mission. For instance if you killed her sister for her then you could warn her that Thane is comming to kill her. Or maybe you get a call from her asking you to go after Thane, after you recruit Thane then you have the option of going back and killing Nassana(or taking a bribe from her).

[lovgreno]

Barquiel wrote...

I would save her!

- Nassana:wub:
- Armali Council tech +credits would be more useful than Thane (=useless)

Well not completely useless as a LI since he will be dead within a year.
But except for that Nassana is more usefull alive than dead. Having a rich and politicaly skilled person that is not TIM as a ally would be usefull.

[Mykel54]

I hated how this was handled, i wanted to save Nassana and the whole "oh noes there is an assassin going for me, kill all the workers" is incredibly stupid. It is just made up so you hate her and don´t mind Thane killing her. I liked her character (ruthless asari, those always die...) and would have liked to keep her alive and perhaps get some help from her. There is no need to go killing around good characters, see Aria for example, she is ruthless as hell too, but you can speak to her and get her to help you, big difference.

[lovgreno]

Mukora wrote...

As interesting as Space-Azula was, I'd prefer a trained assassin to a... business woman.

Never underestimate buisness women. Especialy not extremely sucessfull asari ones.

[InvaderErl]

Nightwriter wrote...

Sorry. I forgot to say I had foreknowledge of this mission before I played it. I had already read that she was manipulating you, I went into the mission knowing.

InvaderErl wrote...

Can't say I really agree with that. She was presented as a self-serving amoral woman in both games.

She has people killed if it suits her but is pragmatic as she tries to deal with Shepard reasonably in both situations.

In 2 she's a bit more anxious because she's expecting a reprisal from her family, but they certainly didn't darken her.

In ME1 she was arranging the death of her sister, who was an evil slaver attempting to blackmail her.

Because her sister was a villain as well, it didn't really paint her as the ultimate evil. Just one cutthroat killing another.

But in ME2, she is actually hurting innocents with blatant disregard and disdain for their welfare.

She was portrayed as utterly ruthless which surprise surprise she was in the second one. I'd agree with you if the first game had instilled her with any kind of morality or code of ethics but it didn't.

She's portrayed as a liar and a manipulator, more than willing to turn an unsuspecting third party into a weapon to do her dirty work in order to further her career.

That she was willing to give the order to her men to clear out the building is completely in line with her actions in the first game.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 03 juin 2010 - 09:36 .

[Nightwriter]

She is ruthless and manipulative, yes, but not outright evil. We only see how she treats her sister, who is no innocent.

It's not the shift from ethical to unethical or something, it's just the shift from a sort of conniving manipulator to a cruel fiend. It's not out of character, it's just a step up. Or a step down, I should say.

[Collider]

To me Nassana in ME1 didn't really care that her sister was an immoral slaver, but cared that her sister had a profession which could damage her reputation and viability as a politician. Further evidence is that she doesn't appear to care that her sister is dead.



Although I would have liked an alternative. I'm not entirely sure why.

[TomY90]

Too be honest I was glad she got killed never liked her, never will and thane did not take the advice to shoot in the head because she has not got a heart.

[tonnactus]

InvaderErl wrote...

brain_damage wrote...

ME! I really liked Nassana, in the first game she was such an interesting character...and then in the second she seemed like a completely different person. I wish there was an alternative - to prevent Thane from killing her =/

I know she seemed like such a nice person. Tricking you into killing her sister because she was threatening her political position, they really changed her alright.

Who cares.A lot of people in shepards squad arent nice anyway,including the hypocrite assasin.("i am only the weapon and doesnt have a free will, lol)

[tonnactus]

InvaderErl wrote...

That she was willing to give the order to her men to clear out the building is completely in line with her actions in the first game.

Killing workers didnt make sense.She could also ordered to put them in the rooms shepardt found them.

[tonnactus]

Collider wrote...

To me Nassana in ME1 didn't really care that her sister was an immoral slaver, but cared that her sister had a profession which could damage her reputation and viability as a politician. Further evidence is that she doesn't appear to care that her sister is dead.

Although I would have liked an alternative. I'm not entirely sure why.

Because you expect to have choices in a roleplaying game i guess....

[ShamieGTX]

tonnactus wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

I definitely wouldn't mind trading Thane in for someone else much like I did for Samara.

I agree.
She was very rich and had good connections. If i had to choose between thane and her, i would easily kill him if that should be necessary.
It also funny that thane even doesnt have any specific role in the suicide mission.

So you would killed the rumored best assassin in the galaxy for some eclipse merc that puts his loyalties to the biggest paycheck & calls himself a pro cuz he paints his armor...... Your bad for business...

[tonnactus]

ShamieGTX wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

I definitely wouldn't mind trading Thane in for someone else much like I did for Samara.

I agree.
She was very rich and had good connections. If i had to choose between thane and her, i would easily kill him if that should be necessary.
It also funny that thane even doesnt have any specific role in the suicide mission.

So you would killed the rumored best assassin in the galaxy for some eclipse merc that puts his loyalties to the biggest paycheck & calls himself a pro cuz he paints his armor...... Your bad for business...

Nassana a eclipse merc???What?

[Panda Warlock]

You could think saving a wealthy, influential, ruthless and cunning asari buisness woman is a good idea.
It isn't.
Wealthy, influential, ruthless and cunning asari buisness women get wealthy and influential, because they are ruthless and cunning. Shepard is bad for business. My guess is that as soon as Shep would go out of the building, she'd pay a sheetload of mercs to off the merciful Commander.
She did same thing to her sister (bad for her career). And you'd think she was a bit closer to her, then to Shepard.

Modifié par Panda Warlock, 04 juin 2010 - 08:35 .