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Anders has been confirmed as a companion and as a love interest in Dragon Age II, here's the story about him (I myself is going to love BioWare forever now):
[quote]Chris Priestly wrote...
To help you better understand Anders as a character, here is a short story written by the Dragon Age 2 Development team.
Anders
The light here isn't right. It's too yellow. Too harsh. And it all comes from above. For a moment, I'm not sure why that seems wrong. The sun… that's always been there, right? What am I remembering?
The word comes back to me. The Fade. I am a mage. I've spent time in the place I remember. It is a land of mist, of dreams. And I'm right; the light there is different, emanating from the ground, the walls, not a single pinpoint source. But I've never been more than a visitor there. Why does it suddenly feel like home?
What else can't I remember?
I sit up, and the light brightens, darkens, steadies. The throb in my head returns and without thinking, I draw on a breath of mana to drive it away. The pain lifts as the magic settles over it, soothing and cooling. I try to think. Let's start with something simple. My name. What is my name?
I am Anders.
I am Justice.
This never used to be so hard.
Suddenly it comes back to me. Justice's voice, my voice, speaking through the rotting face of the body he once claimed. "It is time. You have shown me an injustice greater than any I have faced. Do you have the courage to accept my aid?"
I knew what he offered.
To stay in the mortal realm, he needs a host, a body to inhabit for a lifetime, not a corpse which will rot out from beneath him. If I gave him that, he would give me all he had, all he was. Together, we could remake Thedas into a world where justice rules, not fear.
A world with no Circle. No templars. A world where every mage can learn to use their gifts and still return home at night. Where no mother ever need hide her child… or lose him to the fear of his neighbors. Where magic is recognized as a gift of the Maker, not the curse it has become.
It's almost too much to imagine. The Circle, the templars, they've shaped my life. I was no more than twelve when they came for me. My mother wept when they fixed the chains to my wrists, but my father was glad to see me gone. He had been afraid, ever since the fire in the barn. Not just afraid of what I could do, but afraid of me, afraid my magic was punishment for whatever petty sins he imagined the Maker sat in judgment upon.
I always knew I wouldn't submit. I could never be what they wanted from me -- compliant, obedient, guilty. But before Justice, I was alone. I never thought beyond my own escape: Where would I hide? How long before they found me?
Now, even that thought repulses me. Why should so many others live with what I will not? Why must the Circle of Magi stand? Just because it always has, just because those who read Andraste's words twisted them to mean that mages must be prisoners? Why has there never been a revolution?
"He's coming to." A voice, getting closer. Someone I know. A Grey Warden.
"What in the Maker's name happened to him?" There are two of them. This one I don't know.
"He just went crazy. His eyes were glowing… His bloody skin cracked open and it was like he was on fire inside. Just kept raving… something about injustice, a revolution. Thought I was going to have to put the blighter down like a mad dog, then he just collapsed."
"Damned mages."
I struggle to stand, to open my eyes and face them like a man, not the chewed-up pile of hurlock spew I feel like. I can see them now. It's Rolan; of course it is. The price I had to pay for the Grey Wardens' generosity in recruiting me out from under the templars' noses. He was one of them, before his Chantry was destroyed by the darkspawn and he felt the calling to join the Wardens. No one ever said a deal had been struck, but as soon as the templars stopped their protests, Rolan turned up in the Wardens, and we've fielded every assignment together since. It's all too clear the templars sent him to keep watch.
And whatever possessed me to make my deal with Justice anywhere he might witness?
As he appears, I regret that choice of words, because something stirs inside me, and I wonder if it's harder for Justice to exert his will in a body that a living consciousness still inhabits. But it's a futile question, because his thoughts are mine and he is me, and I'm no longer sure what I was even asking.
Rolan is in front of me now, and the white griffin on his chest plate blurs in my sight with the steel-grey sword-of-flames on his companion's armor, and I know with white-hot certainty that Rolan has betrayed me.
"The Wardens agreed we can't harbor an abomination," he is saying, nasal voice vibrating with smug satisfaction, and I don't need to hear more. He's brought the templars down on me, on us, and this is just what we've been waiting for.
I don't see myself when I change, only the reflection in their eyes and the sound of their screams. My arm lashes out and silverite doesn't so much break as explode in a shower of molten metal. The sword melts, running down the templar's chest, and I follow up with a wave of flames which scorch the flesh from his face, leaving only bone so hot it smolders. The trees are burning… the tent… everything around us.
Rolan is still standing, and I smell the lyrium he drank, which guarded him from the blast. But he's afraid. I see his shield jerk and know he barely resisted the urge to flee, and I have a sudden thought, "What am I?" for I've seen him face both broodmothers and abominations without fear.
And then his sword is level with my chest, and I let it come, because it is only steel and cannot hurt me, for I am not of mortal men. And when it sinks hilt-deep in my flesh with no reaction, that's when he gives up. He turns and runs, and from behind, I tear his head off at the neck, no magic, just me, whatever that is now. His blood splashes into my open mouth and it tastes like honeyed wine and the warmth spreads through me.
He hated me, and he is dead. He feared me, and he is dead. He hunted me, and he is dead.
They will all die. Every templar, every holy sister who stands in the way of our freedom will die in agony and their deaths will be our fuel. We will have justice. We will have vengeance.
And suddenly I'm alone, standing in a burning forest, with the bodies of templars and wardens at my feet. So many, and I didn't even know they were there. Didn't even know I had killed them, but the evidence is all around me. Not the aftermath of a battle as I've known it, but a bloody abattoir of rent limbs and torn and eaten flesh.
This is not justice. This is not the spirit who was my friend, my self. What has he become? What have I become? We must get out of here. There is no place for me in the Grey Wardens now.
Is there a place for me anywhere?
Learn more about Anders when you play Dragon Age 2.
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FAQ answered by David Gaider:
[quote]David Gaider wrote...
[quote]Aldaris951 wrote...
Also it confirms in the anders mini story that the warden recruited him and he was at wardens keep, that didnt happen in my game. I mean come on anders only has like 3 outcomes, it wouldnt of been hard for bioware to of made every choice count.[/quote]
A game can support alternate versions. A short story cannot. If you never recruited Anders, he was never at Vigil's Keep. So it might have happened as the short story lays out, it might not.
He did become a Grey Warden, however, whether you recruited him or not, and he eventually met Justice in that case-- whether Justice was in Kristoff's body or not.
Did we hand-wave your choice to not recruit Anders? Sure did. But that doesn't mean we contradict it, despite your assumptions.
[quote]TJPags wrote...
But what about the ending combos where Anders dies defending the Keep, yet Justice stays with the Wardens for a period of time?[/quote]
That is explained.
I'm not going to explain it to you now. You'll have to play it to see.
[quote]Aldaris951 wrote...
How was it possible for anders to escape
the templers after you hand him over IF wardens keep was not saved and
your player was the only surviving warden at the end of awakening? The
warden trainer at the keep would not of been alive if the wardens keep
fell, So there would of been no wardens except for the player to of made
anders a warden.
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Clearly another Warden would have recruited him?
[quote]Aldaris951 wrote...
David, How can Anders be a grey warden if all the wardens except for your character was alive at the end of awakening? thats a possible outcome, Plus if vigil's keep falls as well then there is no other warden alive in that country except for your character (alistair is dead, anora is queen, Plus all other awakening grey warden characters are dead)[/quote]
There are Wardens in other countries?
[quote]Aldaris951 wrote...
This is all abit far fetched though,
Wardens from another country wouldnt defy the chantry because as we all
know, Wardens like to stay out of it, Our character had motivation to
recruit anders by other grey wardens from other countrys wouldnt of
recruited anders because they werent in their own country and would of
angered the chantry, thus risking war.[/quote]
Then nothing we could say would make you happy, I guess. *shrug*
[quote]Aldaris951 wrote...
Yea I understand that, But other wardens from another country wouldnt risk recruiting anders because they would of risked war with the fereldan chantry. The wardens in Fereldan are ok recruiting anders because we are the warden commander, If a warden from orlays came, they wouldnt recruit anders or risk war with the chantry. they simply wouldnt risk it.[/quote]
So... you know what the Grey Wardens would or would not do?
Well alrighty, then. Clearly you know better than I do.
Like I said, it's a hand-wave overall. We do explain how things came to be depending on your end result, but we don't sit there and guide you through it step-by-step. We treat the epilogues as hearsay and rumor, after all, and when it comes to things that were forecast far in the future they may indeed still happen. If you want to treat them as more than that, that's up to you.
[quote]Aldaris951 wrote...
In future games, I would prefer that if a character is killed off, that there wont be some loophole for that character to come back. Doing what they did with anders just removes choices from the game.[/quote]
Not every choice carries forward into a future game, and of those that do they do not have an equal effect. That's simply the way it is, and it doesn't "remove" anything from the original game. Even had we established a single canon to carry forward (which many games do) that still wouldn't "remove" anything from the original game.
If you or anyone wish to treat the epilogues as something other than rumors and hearsay, as I said, that's your choice. If you treat them as hard and fast canon, however, never to be controverted, then you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
[quote]Btw Duncan's body was never found, so why not bring him back as well? if we are going by that reasoning. (I would love a duncan cameo in DA2)[/quote]
We could bring Duncan back, if we wished. You could have seen him killed, and we could still bring him back if we really wanted to. We don't.
[quote]Brockololly wrote...
The only thing that I'm not too keen on if all the epilogues are treated as fair game to handwaving is that in Origins/Awakening[/quote]
Of course not. Like I said, not all choices carry forward, and of those that do not all are equal. We don't deliberately set out to contradict everything you read in the epilogues. Even rumor and hearsay has to have some truth to it. The fact that not all events didn't turn out like you'd heard doesn't suddenly render up down and black white.
[quote]I can understand some of the more long term ones being ignored for the time being, but even in Witch Hunt, I was a little disappointed how in every Origins epilogue for Morrigan she heads west across the Frostbacks or even ends up in the Orlesian court, and yet WH takes place back in Ferelden.[/quote]
Perhaps she did head there, and came back. Or she could head there again. Hearing rumors that Morrigan was spotted in Orlais doesn't mean that no other events could possibly have happened.
[quote]As long as the explanations are decent with respect to the handwaving and it makes for a better story, thats all I can hope for... although I still want to know what all of the Wardens "vanishing" at the end of Awakening meant[/quote]
That may indeed come up. Some things are explained, some things are not. I think some people are always going to hold every last detail, no matter how vague, as a sacred cow-- and thus attempts on our part to explain aren't going to satisfy them anyhow. I don't think we're too worried about it, and I'll leave it at that.
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[quote]David Gaider wrote...
[quote]atheelogos wrote...
LOL!!
But really though....
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Well, the thing is that Anders isn't his first name, either. It's a nickname (his family is from the Anderfels).
So providing you with his real name wouldn't be much help.
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I'm getting paranoid. All party members mention something about their past: Nate tells how they used to play with Delilah, Sigrun mentions her uncle, so I think she was from a big family, Velanna tells about her clan, Oghren tells about Branka... But Anders tells nothing about his childhood or how he joined the Circle. I wonder why. Is it a spoiler? All we know is that he was adolescent, but why? Was he hiding his gift or he showed the signs that late?
Modifié par Galagraphia, 04 avril 2011 - 01:36 .
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, so we probably won't meet him in DA2 or other DLC or expansions. So please, BioWare, give us some information to help us with our fanfics! 
