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[Nu-Nu]

Lol Nate is too hot to abandon but I would like to enjoy an Anders romance at least once. He looks like someone who knows how to treat a girl right.

There should be a squee for every taste! We want options!! Lots of options!!!

Edit - oh no, top of the page and I have no Anders pics.  I'll just borrow sylvanaerie's awesome artwork!  Nipple slip is hot!

Modifié par Nu-Nu, 15 juin 2010 - 08:02 .

[Miri1984]

Creature 1 wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

I think there's some dialogue about that in the game, actually Creature - where he says something along the lines that unless he's a malificar killing him isn't allowed.

It's also one of the reasons I think some of his escape attempts were before his harrowing - I don't think they would kill a kid, even if he was escaping the tower all the time. Then he escapes AFTER his harrowing and they put him in solitary for a year - which is a pretty harsh punishment, even for a prison.

Also he's an awesome mage. They probably wanted to keep him more than most mages.

What about what's his face, the kid Wynne taught?  I don't recall him being a maleficar, but they hunted him down and left him for dead.  And he was just a young teen at the oldest.

Certainly if they didn't kill him, they would have flogged him or done something else to make him very unlikely to try to run away again. 

I put it down to inconsistent lore, a common problem in DA.  

From what Wynne says the Tower tries really hard not to be a prison - there are mages who really love it there. I like to imagine they would cut the inmates some slack, especially since Anders was a teenager when he was captured - you can't expect someone who's been free most of their life to just accept being locked up. I think they really hoped they could talk him round to staying considering how powerful he was.

I also like to think he never killed anyone or even gave a hint of having blood magic, so they'd be in trouble if they did kill him. The Chantry says they're only allowed to kill malificar - he says in one dialogue "I'm sure eventually they would have branded me a malificar and killed me, true or not". 

BUT I think if he'd killed any templars in his escape attempts he would have been executed. He has a thing about killing people though, so I just have him with a fantastic disorient spell .

Edited to add: Oh, and Aneirin was an elf - you can probably attribute that to racism. But yes, the lore is a little inconsistent there - another Awakenings story casualty *sigh*.

Modifié par Miri1984, 15 juin 2010 - 09:37 .

[Sarah1281]

Wynne did say they branded Aneirin one but...he was fourteen so why did they believe that of him?

[Creature 1]

I forgot about the elf angle. *makes note* More elf angst. I'm all about elf angst lately.

[Sarah1281]

Creature 1 wrote...

I forgot about the elf angle. *makes note* More elf angst. I'm all about elf angst lately.

Oh, right, there's always that. And if Wynne told them how Aneirin wanted to run off and join the Dalish to try and pacify the Templars they'd probably think 'strange Dalish magic' and be all the more eager to hunt him down.

[SurelyForth]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

I forgot about the elf angle. *makes note* More elf angst. I'm all about elf angst lately.

Oh, right, there's always that. And if Wynne told them how Aneirin wanted to run off and join the Dalish to try and pacify the Templars they'd probably think 'strange Dalish magic' and be all the more eager to hunt him down.

I think that's most likely it. Once he's with the Dalish he becomes harder to find and more likely to dabble in magic that isn't "allowed".

[Lady Catastrophe]

Even though some of you may have already gazed upon the Anders heart of awesome,I'm dropping in quickly to post it since it's relevant:

[Miri1984]

I love his expression in that pic - he looks like he's about to kick someone's butt with extreme prejudice. Yum.

[Aurelet]

There was a theory floating around that he is Wynne's long lost son. I think that would be sweet

[Patriciachr34]

I get the impression that Wynne's son is a bit older than Anders. She did say it was a long time ago, and if she were in her 60's then the son would probably be say 35 - 40. I think Anders is more like 25 28 years old.

[Miri1984]

Same here with regards to Anders being Wynne's son. She's definitely pushing sixty - you don't get hair that white otherwise .

[Sarah1281]

Patriciachr34 wrote...

I get the impression that Wynne's son is a bit older than Anders. She did say it was a long time ago, and if she were in her 60's then the son would probably be say 35 - 40. I think Anders is more like 25 28 years old.

Well even if it's only 25 years ago, that's still a long time, right? Some of the Wardens wouldn't even have been born yet and I'm pretty sure Alistair himself hadn't been around then.

[Miri1984]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Patriciachr34 wrote...

I get the impression that Wynne's son is a bit older than Anders. She did say it was a long time ago, and if she were in her 60's then the son would probably be say 35 - 40. I think Anders is more like 25 28 years old.

Well even if it's only 25 years ago, that's still a long time, right? Some of the Wardens wouldn't even have been born yet and I'm pretty sure Alistair himself hadn't been around then.

Yes but then Wynne would have been about 35-40 when she gave birth to him and I think she indicates that she was "very young" when it happened. I can't remember the exact dialogue though. It's possible I suppose, especially considering Anders is such a good healer.... but.... 

[Sarah1281]

Is Wynne in her sixties, though? She seems - and acts regardless of what she says - younger.

[Miri1984]

I think the hair indicates that she is. As I said before you don't get that lovely snowy white shade until around then (at least, I haven't seen it!). And the people who are meant to be in their forties and fifties (Loghain, Eamon and Duncan) look significantly younger than her in my opinion, although we don't really have another female oldie to compare her to. She's certainly aged well, even if she isn't in her sixties.



All her talk indicates that she thinks she didn't have much time left, even before she was spiritified.

[Galagraphia]

Miri1984 wrote...
It's possible I suppose, especially considering Anders is such a good healer.... but.... 

Anders definetly was NOT raised by Chantry, and Wynne's kid was. I don't know what happens to mages' children. In DA comic Greagoir said that Chantry believes they can serve Ferelden in some way, but he didn't tell how. I have a creepy feeling that they do something bad to those kids: make them templars if they don't show the signs of magic or tranquil if they do.

[SurelyForth]

I lean away from Anders being Wynne's kid because of a comment made my a dev about how Anders being a Spirit Healer didn't mean anything, which I don't think would be the case if he were Wynne's son.



And she was in Awakening, you'd think they'd take the opportunity to put a button on it then. They don't even have any winking dialogue with one another.

[Sarah1281]

Galagraphia wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...
It's possible I suppose, especially considering Anders is such a good healer.... but.... 

Anders definetly was NOT raised by Chantry, and Wynne's kid was. I don't know what happens to mages' children. In DA comic Greagoir said that Chantry believes they can serve Ferelden in some way, but he didn't tell how. I have a creepy feeling that they do something bad to those kids: make them templars if they don't show the signs of magic or tranquil if they do.

Why would they make them Tranquil instead of just sending them to the Tower and not mentioning who the parents were? 

[Galagraphia]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Why would they make them Tranquil instead of just sending them to the Tower and not mentioning who the parents were? 

I just had this impression, the Force speaks to me sometimes
Maybe not intentionally. Maybe they do send them to the Circle at first, but what will happen to a child who was told from the cradle that magic is evil? Remember a girl from the Circle tower who was praying (forgot her name), she was so happy when I told her that she can be made tranquil and cut off from magic and the Fade. She looked like someone who was raised by Chantry, she even said that she wanted to dedicate her life to it. Maybe she was an example of mage's child.

[Miri1984]

Oh, things have suddenly become much creepier and more horrible. I never thought they might do nasty things to the mage babies ... . Now I can't get away from the idea.



I hadn't thought about the whole fact that they were raised by the Chantry - there's no way Anders would have turned out the way he is if that were the case for him! So, no. Anders NOT Wynne's son.



*phew*

[Avilia]

Not Wynne's son...please ;-)

I get the impression during Origins that the Templars like to brand all mages who run away as Maleficars. Could just be my prejudices though.

I think the anomaly with Anders and his 7 escapes is possibly just another Awakenings plot hole?
If not it would be interesting to know how and why he got away with it. Rylock didn't seem shy about killing him but then she's a few archdemons short of a blight imho.

Oh - its not top of page but in honour of Ceri's start to Awakenings :



She's looking very sprightly for a dead Hero of Ferelden ;-) (What?  I rp'd that touching the Ashes saved her soul /cough)

Modifié par Avilia, 16 juin 2010 - 12:10 .

[9985]

Thirded on Anders =/= Wynne's son



I believe somebody's using Improved Atmospheres because I see a certain staff model appearing earlier than it should. Now if it would draw dialogue from King Alistair commenting on it



Touching the Ashes... yes, that could explain resurrection

[Patriciachr34]

Here's an angry Anders pic.





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Even angry, he's darn good looking.

[Avilia]

9985 wrote...
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I believe somebody's using Improved Atmospheres because I see a certain staff model appearing earlier than it should. Now if it would draw dialogue from King Alistair commenting on it

Touching the Ashes... yes, that could explain resurrection

>.> maybe....

Not the face morphs just the main file.

I was waiting for Alistair to ask whether they needed to remove the statue now Ceridwen is not "actually" dead anymore.


On an unrelated note - in that run through I'd sided with the Templars so Greagoir was at the funeral.  He really didn't like Alistair giving the mages their autonomy.  I have a good screenie of him giving Alistair frowny face over Ceri's dead body.

Modifié par Avilia, 16 juin 2010 - 08:13 .

[Miri1984]

Ack! More Anders pics are needed!