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Anders: he didn't do it, but HE WILL! (DAO spoilers, may contain DAII spoiles)


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LupusYondergirl

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Sarah- I JUST did and fixed it. By which I mean a reviewer on ff.net pointed it out.
oops.  definately explains why it seemed WAAAAAY too long.

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I've done that a few times. You can usually tell if ff.net more than doubles the word count instead of just adding roughly ten percent (I still have no idea why they do that...)

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Me neither, so I've given up on word count with them. I just go for 9 to 11 pages per chapter. (which I can't even do now since I'm on open office and it has ridiculously different formatting from the new version of Word I usually use.) It's my own fault for pasting it in but it seems like whenever I upload my formatting gets all mangled.

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@Avilia Thanks!

@Miri and Sabreene- I've decided that I could write a buddy cop movie starring Ron and Alistair, with Anders as Ron's adorable wh*re of a roommate who steals every scene he's in.

Also, I haven't read anyone else's in an attempt to not inadvertently thief as I work on other idea. I'm not just being, you know, rude. I'm being rude and paranoid.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 17 septembre 2010 - 02:38 .


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LupusYondergirl, I like your story! It was good to see these events from different point of view. And it was touching.



sabreene, I love stories about teenage Anders! It's good to know he had friends and first love and some happy moments!


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@sabreene - young Anders is cute :) Whatever that thing is on the stair is creeping me out though.

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Galagraphia wrote...

LupusYondergirl, I like your story! It was good to see these events from different point of view. And it was touching.

Thank you! I enjoyed writing it from his side of things, especially since I gave him a very different idea of what he initially wanted than I gave her.

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 17 septembre 2010 - 03:04 .


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Avilia wrote...

@sabreene - young Anders is cute :) Whatever that thing is on the stair is creeping me out though.

Jealous Rylock! 

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Galagraphia wrote...

Avilia wrote...

@sabreene - young Anders is cute :) Whatever that thing is on the stair is creeping me out though.

Jealous Rylock! 



Ahhh - yeah I'm still creeped out.  That woman has mad eyes. Posted Image

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@Miri - thank you :) 

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@Avilia & Gala -- Thank you! I love young Anders. And old Anders. And just about any Anders, actually. I feel bad though, because the story doesn't stay happy for long. As (probably too obviously) foreshadowed by whoever, or whatever, was on the stairs.

Someday I need to write a happy ending Anders, just to make up for all the &#*$ I put him through.

@Surely -- Will you write it, please? please? I'm already imagining Anders as the scene stealing roommate. I may have to give up my Alistairan card.

Modifié par sabreene, 17 septembre 2010 - 03:42 .


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heh, I've created a male mage to romance Morrigan (Rhiamon wasn't able to seduce her no matter how hard she tried), and I gave him Anders' hairstyle. Now it's going to be my personal chellenge to make something about these two guys, obsessed with being handsome and unique, when they meet each other and find that they look like brothers...

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Hehe, I always thought Alistair and Anders would have a hate-at-first-sight thing going because both of them would recognise the slight similarities and want to out-do the other.



I also wrote that they have very similar tastes in women :).

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Miri1984 wrote...

Hehe, I always thought Alistair and Anders would have a hate-at-first-sight thing going because both of them would recognise the slight similarities and want to out-do the other.

I also wrote that they have very similar tastes in women :).


Indeed. Ended up one get the other drunk and they both got toss into a jail cell for a night by the same woman :P

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Yeah, and Anders has this 'thing' for elven maidens too :) BTW, I love how Lupus made him half-elf :) I also thought it was funny when Rylock said that 'Anders will never submit', because it's a part of dalish motto )))))

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When I tried to write his childhood, I made Anders half-elf, too. I imagined that he and his father lived near the Alienage and he spent a lot of time there, despite being a repeat victim of the game of "Steal it Anyway and Blame the Shem." The templars were called when somebody saw him trying to heal a little elven girl's cat.



Then Miri wrote The Ties that Bind and I realized that it just worked better than anything I could come up with.

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In my version of his childhood he and his mother lived with her brother and his wife and children. He was a bastard too. He didn't know about his magic until his mother died and a spirit who looked like her came to comfort him in the Fade (my attempt to explain why he's a spirit healer), this spirit helped him to control his magic, but eventually his uncle found out and sold him to templars.

I accepted Miri's story later too, I thought my version was too dark and gave Anders not enough hatred for templars. Though I kept the spirit of the Fade :)

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That was my problem with everything I was coming up with- predictably woe-filled. It was all just a little too dark. One of my favorite things about The Ties that Bind is how Miri was able to come up with something so normal that fit so well. *fangirls Miri*

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In my first fic Anders mentions he's half-elf only in passing, It's really just to go along with the ongoing 'wow, he does look like the king' joke.  I'd already set up that his mother was from Gwaren and all he knew of his father was that he had fought in the rebel army.  He was born not long after the occupation ended. (since the actual occupation didn't end until Maric killed Meghren in 9:3 Dragon, not at the battle of River Dane).

Not that I think he is, it's just amusing to have characters comment on it occasionally.  Well, to me, at least.  And if I don't amuse myself why write at all? ;)
And really, where large army camps go bastards tend to follow.

But, I also wanted to give him a difficult-yet-happy childhood. Something where he wasn't spoiled or pampered, and he was slightly outcast so hiding his magic wouldn't have been as challenging due to lack of friends and social life (although I think once girls got to the noticing boys age they wouldn't have cared much about him being a bastard or half elf since really, he was probably beyond adorable in his youth.), but still happy enough that he would have fought tooth and nail to go back to his family after being taken to the tower.  It also gave him a reason to be fiercely devoted to his mother well into what would normally be rebellious years, since she was all he had.  And a reason for him not to develop the prejudices most people in Ferelden seem to have against elves even though he was outside the tower for his formative years.

When I (eventually) have them go to the Dalish lands to recruit I've been thinking I'll do more with it.  Maybe give his mother a Dalish background, or a dalish parent, so he has some more concrete reason to be curious about them.  Haven't decided.  But I think it could be interesting.

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I love reading everyone's background stories for Anders. It's so interesting. @Lupus, I lol'd at yours -- I believe the whole of Ferelden thinks Maric couldn't keep it in his pants :D

I made Anders a quarter elf :D His grandmother, Nan, is an elf. She's the one who taught him magic. I have him living in the city with sisters (much older sisters who spoil him rotten, hense such a love of women) merchant parents, and a brother. But then... ooops...magic!

So they have to move someplace out of the way, and his mom convinces her mother (the elf) to come help. He has a fairly happy childhood, except for the stupid forest on one side, and the incessant teasing from his brother. It's that brother who ruins everything, disowning the family and moving far away (afraid of the taint of magic), so that Anders is sent down into the local village too often. Not really a good idea, that. Leads to dangerous situations :)

Modifié par sabreene, 17 septembre 2010 - 06:41 .


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At least Anders' brother isn't the one who turns him in, though.

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Thinking about it today, I remembered, too,  that I felt silly wasting spending too much time giving him a backstory because a) I didn't really need anything before the Tower and B) I'm still praying that he gets a God-given background of some sort.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 17 septembre 2010 - 07:23 .


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I decided I needed to give him something since, even if it isn't accurate, it gives me a better handle on keeping his voice consistent when I'm writing and figuring out how he'll react to various situations.



Also, since I started my story with the beginning of Awakenings, having him and my main character compare their pasts was the only way to really give her a backstory, too.

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Oooh, I love speculation about Anders' background. I never even THOUGHT of making him part elf, but I really like that idea. And I'm blushing madly about being fangirled by Surely :) *fangirls right back*.



I think with Ties that Bind I was trying really hard to make his life as normal as possible but still special. His mother is the interesting one and I've been considering a little one shot of her life before Anders was born but I have too many other things to write.



And I too hope we get some background from God regarding Anders...

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It began as a joke since Maric clearly has a thing for elves. But I think, at least in how he is in my story, it does fit him. I'd like to think being outside the normal society of both humans and elves would give him a strong independent streak and a lot of self-reliance and determination. Someone like that wouldn't be scared of running away from the tower with no money and no plan.
Plus the memory of being ostracized would make him a far more accepting of other people. Hopefully realistically since I have him being friends (or more) with blood mages, former templars, etc. Among all the regular characters in my fic, he is probably the least judgmental or prejudiced of all of them by far.

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 17 septembre 2010 - 09:20 .