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[Addai]

O/T but I found this fanart of Andraste striking and it made me think of Anders who speculates Andraste might have been a "looker'.  I suspect he would have approved of this artist's vision?

[SurelyForth]

I imagine he'd be quite fine with that. Her eyes are amazing (the lip color, not so much). Also, is that Raider Painspike armor she's wearing? Badass.

[Addai]

I do like the lip color but doubt such peachy peach lips are found in nature. She probably had the same magical makeup kit Morrigan had. And, that could well be raider painspike armor! I stumbled on this fan artist and started faving his stuff, then realized that most of it was very busty babes with a few metal pieces magically sticking to their nipples, posed in compromising positions. Even Anders might lift an eyebrow.

[LupusYondergirl]

Raider Painspike? Good to see I'm not the only one will will drop off the face of the earth when New Vegas is released. :happy:

I like that eyes, too, although I don't think I'm down with the hair color for her just because it looks too unnatural. I can't see Andraste taking time out from fighting the archons to slather whatever Thedas's equivalent of Henna is on her head.
Could just be my monitor, which is getting old and doesn't have the best RGB balance in the world, though. But, on my end her hair looks like the same color as mine, and my hair definitely isn't a shade found in nature.

And we need some Anders on this page.

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 17 septembre 2010 - 10:20 .

[SurelyForth]

Oh, her hair color is definitely not natural. Maybe that's why she married the Maker, because he's a fabulous colorist.

And I'm definitely going to be in a Fallout coma come late October. I'm pushing myself to finish my story so I don't feel guilty ignoring it while I re-ignite my love affair with V.A.T.S. and (non-feral) ghouls. 

Modifié par SurelyForth, 17 septembre 2010 - 10:34 .

[LupusYondergirl]

If the Maker could do something about my hair I'd convert to Andrastian in a heartbeat.

(seriously, coloring my hair is such a nightmare. Thanks, Mom, for those fantastic genes. I loved starting to go grey at 13. That was just awesome. Not as awesome as being over half grey by 30, though. Not just half grey, either. Half extremely dye resistant grey. Fun times.)

[Sarah1281]

I suppose I shouldn't complain about the fact that family history indicates one day I'll go brunette, huh?

[SurelyForth]

Sarah1281 wrote...

I suppose I shouldn't complain about the fact that family history indicates one day I'll go brunette, huh?

You're a redhead now, aren't you? 

I'm actually jealous of people with grey hair, since I've wanted it since I was a kid and my best friend's mom had a wild mane of greying hair and was fierce as **** with it. Of course everyone in my family is born with and dies with the exact same boring-ass brown-black hair, so I'm completely out of luck.

Has anyone given Anders a surname? Sim Anders has one (Sparks, which was the last name of the sim I used as his base, but kept because it made me laugh), and I don't think I'll ever actually need one, but I am curious.

[LupusYondergirl]

I did that before I went grey. I was strawberry blond as a kid.

Can't complain too much, I guess. The grey makes it easier to dye my hair fun colors.



Trying to get started on my prompt for the Anders LJ. I got 'hearing' and I have a few ideas, but just can't get the beginning down...

[Sarah1281]

SurelyForth wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

I suppose I shouldn't complain about the fact that family history indicates one day I'll go brunette, huh?

You're a redhead now, aren't you? 

I'm actually jealous of people with grey hair, since I've wanted it since I was a kid and my best friend's mom had a wild mane of greying hair and was fierce as **** with it. Of course everyone in my family is born with and dies with the exact same boring-ass brown-black hair, so I'm completely out of luck.

Has anyone given Anders a surname? Sim Anders has one (Sparks, which was the last name of the sim I used as his base, but kept because it made me laugh), and I don't think I'll ever actually need one, but I am curious.

For now, yes, and I'm good with it.

I haven't actually given Anders a surname but then I've also yet to work out his back story so...it'll happen. Eventually.

[Miri1984]

Lupus gave him MacGraine which I quite like. I honestly can't remember if I've given him one... Sparks is pretty darn funny though.



And my husband and I are going to give up sleep altogether when New Vegas comes out!

[Addai]

SurelyForth wrote...

Oh, her hair color is definitely not natural. Maybe that's why she married the Maker, because he's a fabulous colorist.

And I'm definitely going to be in a Fallout coma come late October. I'm pushing myself to finish my story so I don't feel guilty ignoring it while I re-ignite my love affair with V.A.T.S. and (non-feral) ghouls. 

It looks natural to me?  Anyway, while I'm hijacking, I'll stay semi-topical and say that one of my favorite bits in Awakening is the discussion between the two drunks about who would win in a cage match, Andraste or the Archdemon ("but Andraste could call on the Makerrr")- puts me in giggles every time.

And we're definitely going Fallout as well.  Husband already wants a New Republic of California t-shirt.

Topical Anders... I don't have any new Anderses... have to recycle.

[LupusYondergirl]

SurelyForth wrote...

Has anyone given Anders a surname? Sim Anders has one (Sparks, which was the last name of the sim I used as his base, but kept because it made me laugh), and I don't think I'll ever actually need one, but I am curious.

MacGreine, since I happened to come up with it about two hours after Gala posted something where she referred to him as "her sunshine" and I thought that was just cute as hell.  It's from Irish mythology, but most of the names I use are.  One of the Tuatha Dé Danann who killed Lugh and became a High King of Ireland. (well, in that historically grey area where the actual records indicate deities and demigods also being actual living members of the nobility. ah, Irish history...)
Translates roughly as son of the sun, but more specifically as son of Grian who was an early Irish sun goddess.

(Can you tell my minor was Irish Studies in my first go through college, which is multidisciplinary history, classics, and literature.  And 100% useless as hell).

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 17 septembre 2010 - 11:08 .

[Avilia]

Sorry to jump into this at this late date...

I always give Anders an elf mother. I just seems to fit with him. I have been wondering lately if his mother could have been Dalish - but he doesn't seem fond of the outdoors so my nascent theory about living the Dalish being the reason it took so long for the Templars to find him goes out the window.

I'm still clinging to my theory that Anders is a nickname but only just cllinging. I've never given him a last name. I thought only nobles had last names in Ferelden or am I wrong?

Re the Andraste picture - wasn't she an elf mage ;-)

Edit - hmm just remembered all the origins have last names....

Modifié par Avilia, 17 septembre 2010 - 11:14 .

[Sarah1281]

If Anders' mother was Dalish (or even his father) then Anders wouldn't have been able to live among them given he's a 'shem' and they would fear his very presence would shorten their lifespans.

Edit: 

I'm still clinging to my theory that Anders is a nickname but only just cllinging. I've never given him a last name. I thought only nobles had last names in Ferelden or am I wrong?

I think I heard somewhere that that was true but they had to put something in there for the other origins (and that explains why the last names of the non-nobles are never mentioned even though before becoming Wardens if, say, Beraht wanted to address you as Brosca or Greagoir calls you Surana it would sound more organic than 'Rica's sister' or 'Irving's favorite student').

Modifié par Sarah1281, 17 septembre 2010 - 11:24 .

[LupusYondergirl]

I don't know... even if his mother was dalish, would they have let her stay if she willingly had a child by a human? It seems like that would be a pretty big reason for them to ostracize someone. (and if he was the product of rape, that leads to a whole new level of issues, where I can very much see the dalish allowing her to stay but abandoning the child, if not in the woods, then in some human settlement where it would be found)

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 17 septembre 2010 - 11:26 .

[Avilia]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

I don't know... even if his mother was dalish, would they have let her stay if she willingly had a child by a human? It seems like that would be a pretty big reason for them to ostracize someone. (and if he was the product of rape, that leads to a whole new level of issues, where I can very much see the dalish allowing her to stay but abandoning the child, if not in the woods, then in some human settlement where it would be found)

Very true, Lupus and Sarah's point as well.

*throws the Dalish theory out the window*

I hate to be Miss doom and gloom - is it possible Bioware didn't write any back story for Anders?  Nate has one because he's related to Origins and DA2 but Anders really gives you nothing about his background.  Just a few Tower anecdotes and that's it.

The only clue is his accent - which is a commoner accent, no?

Or did I miss dialogue clues - which is always possible as I have a memory like seive.

(You'd think I'd remember the Dalish/Human thing - its the main reason I had Nate's girl leave (she's Dalish and struggling with that - er not being Dalish but him being human - omg off topic for this thread so ignore it))

[LupusYondergirl]

Doom and gloom or not, I agree. I think there's no backstory since, well, they just didn't care that much. Awakenings is definitely missing the depth of character and interaction you get in origins.



And about last names- the Domesday Book has many recorded, and that was just after the Norman conquest, so it seems they were in use as far back as the late eleventh century in England, which is pretty close to the era Ferelden is based on.

[Avilia]

My brain is being silly - I was just replaying Anders'

"You may call me Anders my dear lady, I am a mage and sadly a wanted apostate."

In my head and for some reason I thought - why even have him say that? We did just see him cast fire of doom at Darkspawn and he is wearing a robe....

He could just say he's an apostate. Mage is redundant..

Um, let's move on from that rather strange serious of observations with a picture!


I love this - its Anders' - holy Maker I can do fire spells! moment

Modifié par Avilia, 17 septembre 2010 - 11:53 .

[LupusYondergirl]

Eh, I always figured the number of spells assigned to each character was a gameplay mechanic, not a lore thing. Like the non-addictiveness of lyrium in game, or how much weaker spells are in game compared to in book (where a single lightning bolt can literally burn a hole straight through an armored Orlesian soldier). Since I can't imagine spending your entire life in the Circle, reaching adulthood, and knowing like three spells total when you reach your harrowing. What have you been DOING all those years?!

[Avilia]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

Eh, I always figured the number of spells assigned to each character was a gameplay mechanic, not a lore thing. Like the non-addictiveness of lyrium in game, or how much weaker spells are in game compared to in book (where a single lightning bolt can literally burn a hole straight through an armored Orlesian soldier). Since I can't imagine spending your entire life in the Circle, reaching adulthood, and knowing like three spells total when you reach your harrowing. What have you been DOING all those years?!

haha yes - fire is something they teach them at the Tower isn't it?  I usually just rp it that after you're a mage you specialise.

So perhaps it would be more correct for me to say 'holy maker I can still do fire spells'.

[LupusYondergirl]

I do it the same way in my fic- which is why Maggie can't heal. She learned just enough to get out of her apprenticeship and that was it. I also wrote that all mages have a natural affinity for some schools over others.

[Avilia]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

I do it the same way in my fic- which is why Maggie can't heal. She learned just enough to get out of her apprenticeship and that was it. I also wrote that all mages have a natural affinity for some schools over others.

Affinity works nicely with the spirit healer concept I think.

OT - I know I'm opening myself up to argument but I think you should only be able to choose one specialisation.  Would work if the specialisations had more spells and buffs etc.  Oh well - I am not a game designer and I'm sure Bioware know better than me.

[SurelyForth]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

Doom and gloom or not, I agree. I think there's no backstory since, well, they just didn't care that much. Awakenings is definitely missing the depth of character and interaction you get in origins.

And about last names- the Domesday Book has many recorded, and that was just after the Norman conquest, so it seems they were in use as far back as the late eleventh century in England, which is pretty close to the era Ferelden is based on.

I'm going to be uncharacteristically optimistic and say that he was given a pre-Tower backstory just because I can't imagine them not slapping something together for one of the main companions in a 15 hour long game. They managed to give Varel a fairly significant backstory via the Codex, and he was a glorified quest-giver, so it doesn't seem too far-fetched that they sketched out Anders beyond what we get in the game. Awakening feels like there is a lot going on and not enough attention given to any of it, and I think that extends to the companions, too. I feel like the writers put time into them, because they were all distinctive, but the end-product was too gutted to go very deep with any of them.

So, basically, I'm pretending that God definitely has something written up on Anders and they're holding it for something else. And if not, maybe one of will be lucky enough to shoot him a PM on a night when the planets are rightly aligned and he'll answer some questions. 

And I always RP my PC mages to have specific schools. My canon Amell (AW/BM) is pretty much all spirit with a few basic primal spells while my Destructo Mage (uh, AW/BM) is full on Primal with Walking Bomb and a few Entropy. 

Modifié par SurelyForth, 18 septembre 2010 - 12:28 .

[LupusYondergirl]

OT - I know I'm opening myself up to argument but I think you should only be able to choose one specialisation. Would work if the specialisations had more spells and buffs etc. Oh well - I am not a game designer and I'm sure Bioware know better than me.

Lore-wise I see what you mean. Or, if they know more than one, they should be complimentary. Like, Battlemage and Arcane Warrior, or Keeper and Shapeshifter. Or even Keeper and Arcane Warrior (for the dalish connection). Like, I can't imagine a spirit healer/blood mage. That just seems... wrong.

In the actual game I usually spec Anders with arcane warrior as his second for the shields(although I don't give him weapons since I don't want to put points into dex), and keeper or battlemage for the +2 magic as his third (usually without actually taking any of the spells).

In fic Maggie's a blood mage/arcane warrior/battlemage and he's a spirit healer/arcane warrior. But she made all the Warden mages learn arcane warrior.

Edit: Surely- your DestructoMage is my cannon Amell specs!

Modifié par LupusYondergirl, 18 septembre 2010 - 12:33 .