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Anders: he didn't do it, but HE WILL! (DAO spoilers, may contain DAII spoiles)


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SurelyForth wrote...

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Yeah, Anders fluff is awesome, even when he's with a Cousland who's not Brand.
For some reason Cousland/Anders pairing doesn't work with me. I just want to stab them all and cry out: "You have Alistair, leave our Anders alone!!!" Brand is the only exception, because her story is too dark to envy her.


Yeah, but not all Couslands are meant to be with Alistair and any PC could end up with Alistair if he's hardened. I really dislike the princess consort ending, tbh, and don't see it as happily ever after (not that I'd like it any more if it were). My canon Alistair romance is an Amell who is his mistress and his chancellor. Brand wasn't even supposed to hook up with Alistair in the game and only did it because I loved how he responded to her smartassery during the romantic conversations. Even in the game I play it as being very goofy and physical and not that romantic. 

I apologize if this seems defensive, but I've gotten some flack for having a Cousland who isn't falling all over herself for a crown (never mind my story). When it comes to relationships in the game, my characters are driven by their personalities and not their origins. My Amell would hate Anders (and maybe even let the templars have him if there was any guarantee they were going to refrain from abusing him) and my Cousland finds him awesome.


Why?  Seems reasonable to me - if daughter is anything like Bryce - she wouldn't want it.

Not that I'm saying either is better - its player choice imho.

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It's the robes line. The "not when I'm naked" bit when Nathaniel asks if he always wears robes. He does sound incredibly suggestive there, but I always took it as trying to make Nathaniel embarrassed or uncomfortable. Not flirty.


Anders always looks at my pc when he says that.  I swear he does...really...its not just my imagination.

(woo three posts in a row - better stop now before a mod chases me away)

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SurelyForth wrote...

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I actually head-canon Cousland and Loghain.
I have Issues. Yes, the capital I is necessary. That is their severity.


Unless it's a pre-Blight thing (like Addai's fic), I absolutely could not ship any Cousland with Loghain, because of the way he supported Howe. 

Although, admittedly, I imagine Cousland who did spare Loghain, and married Al to Anora, enjoyed visiting the royals with him, if only so they could make Alistair that much more miserable.

it is almost entirely Arsinoe de Blassenville and Lilith Morgana's faults.

(and latest Word of God is that Loghain didn't know anything about Howe's plans against the Couslands until they were done.  But, since they were already allied he felt stuck, apparently.  Or by the Howe had seen too much of the dirty laundry to get rid of him without just killing him.)

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@Avilia - too funny! I really enjoy the Nate/Anders rivalry in your stories.

@Lupus - I have an Anders/Amell story, but I've just never posted it anywhere. I have a hard enough time keeping my Anders/Surana updated.

@Surely, I'm with you on the whole Cousland/Alistair thing. My one Cousland/Alistair story isn't really a happy one. They didn't get married, and he has children by another woman. Even endings where they did get married, I don't really see it as a "happy" ending. Life certainly doesn't become any easier with a marriage.

I do kind of like Nate/Anders together for kicks. They are quite a fun pairing to write for on kmeme. I think because they are both such good, strong characters and play so well of one another. Like dark and light.

@jenn - great prompt! I have half a dozen ideas. Now if only life would cooperate and give me a little free time.

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LupusYondergirl wrote...

(and latest Word of God is that Loghain didn't know anything about Howe's plans against the Couslands until they were done.  But, since they were already allied he felt stuck, apparently.  Or by the Howe had seen too much of the dirty laundry to get rid of him without just killing him.)


Yeah, I know what Gaider says. But that would take a lot of hand-waving on behalf of my Couslands. According to Gaider, Loghain just wanted Eamon temporarily out of commission, but there's no way to know that unless Gaider tells you. Similarly, to someone on the ground, the massacre in Highever is terribly convenient for Loghain (and hugely risky for Howe to have done unless he knew for a fact that he'd be protected). Gaider can say that Loghain just wanted Bryce waylaid/distracted, and I believe him, but were I PC Cousland, it would be extremely difficult to come to that conclusion given the way events unfold in the game.

Modifié par SurelyForth, 24 septembre 2010 - 03:12 .


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SurelyForth, I made my first Amell Ali's mistress but I wasn't happy about it. I felt so bad about the idea of Ali sneaking out of his pregnant wife's bed to visit his love, that I just refused to make it happen. And I can't bring myself not to crown Alistair, so all my non-Cousland girls ended up dumped or dead (except Rhia who dumped everyone first). From my point of view being Cousland is like to have all cakes and candies in Thedas. And when you're a mage or an elf you are the one of the most despised people in Ferelden. Being mage is even worse, elves can have families at least.



So after Anders came, all my dumped girls instantly fell into his arms :) (Even Rhiamon XD Though it was temporaly.)

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I just thought I'd (finally) poke my head in and say hello. :) I can't believe I've never posted in here before. I'm Hermia S on ffnet and fair-hermia on DevArt, for the curious.

I'm one of "those ones" who quite like the Cousland/Anders pairing. Then again, I honestly didn't intend on putting him with anyone until I started playing as Líadan. Her relationship with Alistair was never a really stable one. She was far more experienced than he was; his naïveté was charming, if anything, and she called it quits when she realized how invested he was in the relationship. She found a deeper sort of companionship with Anders because they were more like two sides of the same coin. 

Now, not every Cousland should be with poor Anders, hahah. I know that much. None of my other Couslands would even be interested in him that way. One's paired up with Ser Otto and the other with Cailan, so they're ~busy,~ as it is. I have very few characters who I see as actually being in the least bit compatible with him. That said, Lía and Anders are hardly... romantic in the traditional sense, as they enjoy teasing and beating up each other (in a gentle manner, obviously; she could snap him like a twig). S'why I love them so much. 

/rant!

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Calla S, finally, the founder of the fan club came to our thread! Yay! :)



First of all I must say that I didn't want to offend Cousland fans and I'm sorry if I did. I know that all people are different and can choose different ways. And I love all fanfics with Anders (except the ones with Nate, I can't say anything about them, because I don't read them. Pretty girls only!) But when a mage girl comes it brings the story to a higher level for me. Because it's just so perfect! And my problems with Couslands are my own problems, I bet nobody wants to read about it. )))



BTW, sketched a new Anders today, but forgot to post him here. I think I sketch too much, I must force myself and finish something. Why the day lasts only 24 hours? I want 36 at least.

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I didn't see it as a slight to Cousland fans. :) One thing I enjoy so much about the Dragon Age fan community is the fact that there are so many differing opinions, and most of them aren't pointedly negative. Outright Cousland haters notwithstanding.

The funny thing is that I agree. I adore Anders with mages, and I actually made a mage for him when I realized how great he was. And, well, she ended up with Justice. :blink: So... who knows how my brain works!

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Gala, I don't think anyone here will ever tell you not to sketch. ;)

I was actually just looking at the sketch you did of Anders and Maggie, trying to break my writer's block.

(not working, unfortunately)

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Lupus, try to look at Dostoevsky pic I sent you. I'm passing by him every morning and so want to have a control rod and a secret word to revive him and have some fun watching him crushing pigeons.



And I want to color Maggie, if nobody will drag me out of my shell this weekend, I'll do it.

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Oooh, that would make my month. :D



I just got the pic (for some reason gmail sent it to my spam folder. Grrr!)

I am trying to picture him calling someone a hag and enjoying it immensely.

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Hehe, the thought of Dostoevsky statue as a golem led me to a crazy idea of Anders and Shale conversations. They have much in common: both love shiny stuff, want to be free, have pets. But Shale hates mages. And she would probably hate Anders' nose for looking like Wilhelm's.

And then I started to think what it would be like to have Anders in Origins... BioWare would have made him to give gifts, invite PC to his tent, say romantic stuff and something sentimental before the final battle. Ugh, terrible! And they would have included him into Darkspawn Chronicles, force us to kill him... Even more terrible.

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Galagraphia wrote...

Hehe, the thought of Dostoevsky statue as a golem led me to a crazy idea of Anders and Shale conversations. They have much in common: both love shiny stuff, want to be free, have pets. But Shale hates mages. And she would probably hate Anders' nose for looking like Wilhelm's.
And then I started to think what it would be like to have Anders in Origins... BioWare would have made him to give gifts, invite PC to his tent, say romantic stuff and something sentimental before the final battle. Ugh, terrible! And they would have included him into Darkspawn Chronicles, force us to kill him... Even more terrible.


Anders is such a good healer he could probably heal through the US!  An even better way out than the DR imho.  Anders makes the Archdemon faint with the smirk and then keeps the Warden alive when she kills it.

Ah I see now why he wasn't included - game breaking :wub:

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Kitty!



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Gala's latest sketch :)

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That is gorgeous! I knew obsessively checking the forums would be a good thing one day.



That cat is just so cute - Anders too of course ;-)

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Another Ser Pounce picture for me to post to revive threads? Awesome!

If I would have seen that yesterday, my evening might have not been quite so terrible. It is so cute.

Also, I had a sexy Cullen dream. I woke up a bit :o.

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So question: if Shale met Anders then what would his nickname be?

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The Fancy Mage? She'd mean it as an insult, but he'd like it. Eventually she'd warm to him, I think. It would become fairly obvious that he would never enslave her the way Wilhelm had. And, from what she says about Wilhelm in her banter with Morrigan, Anders is pretty much his opposite.

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*hugs Surely* I'm sorry, I forgot to post it before running to work.
*runs to draw female Anders for dA challenge*

p.s. Cullen dream? Why, oh why do I never get any of them??? Whyyyy :pinched:

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Galagraphia wrote...

*hugs Surely* I'm sorry, I forgot to post it before running to work.
*runs to draw female Anders for dA challenge*

p.s. Cullen dream? Why, oh why do I never get any of them??? Whyyyy :pinched:


It's ok! And if your female Anders is nearly as awesome as a few of the female Zevs I've seen, I may move up an entire point on the Kinsey scale.

I'm not even someone who finds Cullen to be anything more than a tragic figure. I don't know why I would have a sexy Cullen dream.

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SurelyForth wrote...
I'm not even someone who finds Cullen to be anything more than a tragic figure. I don't know why I would have a sexy Cullen dream.

I blame myself, I spread Cullenness (and awful jokes :pinched:), funny thing is that "Obsession" was supposed to be a parody, but transformed into something dark.

To avoid offtopic:

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That is a fantastic picture. I can never get awesome angles for screencaps like that.

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Okay, here's my prompt: 

He certainly hadn't expected that to happen. That Namaya would be angry with him after how they’d left things was practically a given. That Rylock might not be too keen to let him escape the so-called templar ‘justice’ after darkspawn had killed the templars that had been holding him prisoner mere moments before the Warden-Commander Angélique Amell had stumbled across him was also not exactly a surprise. That Rylock would ignore both the Crown and the Rite of Conscription to try and come after him anyway and that Namaya would somehow be in on it was a bit of a surprise. The most stunning turn of events, by far, was that Angélique had a problem with all of this and had called upon a golem friend of hers that was in Amaranthine with Wynne to crush Rylock and her men.
 
Anders had so many questions he hardly knew where to start. “Where did you even come from?” he demanded of the golem.
 
“I was waiting right outside,” the golem explained. “If the fancy mage or the squashed templars had bothered to pay the slightest bit of attention then they would have realized that there had not actually been a statue there earlier.”
 
Anders tilted his head. “The fancy mage? Is that me?”
 
“Obviously,” the golem told him. “Although not that I think of it, the stupid mage would work just as well.”
 
“The fancy mage…” Anders repeated, flashing his trademark smirk. “I like it.”
 
“It would,” the golem said derisively.
 
“Angélique, I can’t believe that you’d be willing to stick up for me like that,” Anders said, shaking his head in disbelief. Yes, Angélique was a fellow mage but she was also kind of…special. Anders was sleeping with her, of course, because she was gorgeous and willing but she had an almost obscene degree of self-absorption that really made him doubt that he liked her all that much. Still, she did just save him from Rylock’s zealotry and so he really shouldn’t be so hard on her.
 
“Of course I would!” Angélique declared, her bright violet eyes wide. “As Warden-Commander I claimed you first and if Rylock wanted a sexy apostate that badly then she really should have found her own. It’s only polite, you know.”
 
“Yes, we cannot forget about civility or we have become truly lost,” Anders agreed, feeling vindicated in his decision to sleep with whoever he met that was pretty, willing, and not obviously a templar as it had just saved him.
 
“It’s especially tacky as I’m still so very upset that Alistair practically clung to Anora whenever he saw me after the Landsmeet and they got engaged,” Angélique added. “I mean, couldn’t he see that I was hurting here?”
 
Anders had seen King Alistair when he had been conscripted and it was hard to tell from the way that the man flinched whenever he accidentally glanced Angélique’s way but Anders got the vague impression that maybe he didn’t like the girl all that much. He’d heard something about them having been together at some point although he’d really never have guessed it. “Yes, well, in my experience templars are often lacking for manners. Out of curiosity, was there any reason that you saved me besides the fact that we’re sleeping together and you thought she was rude?” Surely there must be some deeper reason as the idea that anyone could actually be that shallow disturbed him greatly.
 
Angélique frowned as she thought about it and began to play with her long, luscious golden hair. “Hm…I suppose that there’s always the fact that all of the Orlesian Wardens got themselves brutally murdered by the darkspawn that Mary and I were able to dispatch with ease when I first arrived at the Keep.”
 
It took Anders a moment to realize that she meant Mhairi. “And so you were just in the process of a mad recruitment drive?” he prompted.
 
“Pretty much,” Angélique confirmed. “I tried to recruit some more people but they started hiding from me so that didn’t go so well.”
 
“But surely the fact that you were willing to go up against three templars when you yourself are a mage and everyone else was off in the tavern must mean you had some sort of reason,” Anders said, beginning to get a little desperate.
 
“Not really,” Angélique disagreed cheerfully. “You just asked if we could go in this interesting-looking building and I didn’t have anything better to do. I didn’t actually realize that your phylactery was supposed to be in here.”
 
“But even if you weren’t listening when I kept talking about just that very thing, Rylock asked you to turn me over and you didn’t,” Anders pointed out.
 
Angélique shrugged. “Well, it’s like I said. I claimed you fair and square and it’s not like she didn’t have her chance. Besides, I didn’t even have to do anything as Shale came in and crushed them all. We would have had a much more difficult time fighting them than she did and she gets so little joy in her life so who was I to deny her this?”
 
“If only one of them were a bird,” the golem – apparently Shale – said wistfully.
 
Apparently it was fully possible to be just that shallow. Despite the fact that Anders rarely admitted to anything deeper himself, this was still quite a disturbing discovery and still quite unexpected although for different reasons than he had initially thought. Instead of discovering that Angélique had any hidden depths, he had discovered that even her visible ones were actually nonexistent.
 
It was a good thing that they had arranged to meet up with the others at the tavern when they were done here because he definitely needed a drink. He hadn’t actually thought it was possible, but he had just been saved from the templars and still managed to lose some last vestige of faith in humanity.
 
He certainly hadn’t expected that to happen.

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I laughed so hard, Sarah. It was awesome.



I especially loved: "Instead of discovering that Angélique had any hidden depths, he had discovered that even her visible ones were actually nonexistent."