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Anders: he didn't do it, but HE WILL! (DAO spoilers, may contain DAII spoiles)


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nenosronhir

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cave_fatuam wrote...
Also, someone beat me and make me work on my Valentines Day exchange instead of trying to fix Anders' face. XD


I- I can't do that, seeing so much Anders is too awesome ;^;

Edit: Because eerie full-moon, lamppost-toting, chasind-garbed Anders is too good to pass up!
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Is it wrong of me to want to nibble upon those lovely pecs?



BTW is anyone having trouble trying to decide what class they want to play should this lovely being be deemed(damn well better be) romance-able?



I am stuck between rogue and mage myself.




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@nenosronhir, Bless your heart! I was just about to ask if anyone had a good picture of Lamppost! I actually needed it for my V-Day thinger, which is Anders related, so a two-for there. :D

@Trip, I'm playing an anti-Chantry mage on my Anti-Chantry DA:O playthrough.  Which I always intended, but now I have a very nice reason. XD

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First run is always a mage.

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@cave if you need a full-length shot, let me know and I'll snap one for you! :D

@trip I am in the exact same boat. I have a growing suspicion I'm going to end up going mage first, however! XD

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@cave...I am tempted so to do that as well but the rogue is so cool and ...the hood!



@Sia..its usually the way I go as well...but the hood!



@nenosronhir..I am glad I am not alone at least..its between the hood and the sword/staff...what can I say I am a bit of a closet fashionista at inopportune moments.

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And how she feels about the chantry depends on the romance paths, if any. *grin*

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@Trip not a terrible thing to be! X3 I'm torn only because I <3 stabbing things in melee, rather than pewpew from afar. But the flavour for mages always seems to be richer, particularly in Thedas where they're shunned, spit on, and locked away in a tower. And so help me, if Anders really is a LI, that's probably going to be the breaking point in my decision, hahaha... "orz

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Lupus and I have pretty much whipped each other into a frenzy of chantry hate over the past few months (or maybe the hate was always there from Lupus - it certainly took a little teeny bit longer to grow for me) so CHANTRY HATING MAGE first off for the win.



Mind you, I do find it difficult to have any sympathy for organised religion, so I doubt that my rogues or warriors will be any different, at least in that regard. Especially considering Bethany is a mage.

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I'm a lapsed Baptist, so I kind of get squinty-eyed snarky when organized religion is brought up.
It's really altogerther too easy to slip into SET THE TEMPLARS (not almost Templars though ;D) ON FIRE!! -mode.

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See, I was raised in purity (as in, no religion at all) so the whole deal completely baffled me until I started seeing my husband, who, though lapsed, knows the entire Catholic mass back to front. When we were in Ireland he wanted to take me to a full mass. I said I couldn't because God would probably strike me down. He said:



"Oh, it's ok, I'm a member - they let you get one in for free!"



:)

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nenosronhir wrote...

@Trip not a terrible thing to be! X3 I'm torn only because I <3 stabbing things in melee, rather than pewpew from afar. But the flavour for mages always seems to be richer, particularly in Thedas where they're shunned, spit on, and locked away in a tower. And so help me, if Anders really is a LI, that's probably going to be the breaking point in my decision, hahaha... "orz


Exactly, it also helps that I love playing the underdogs..most of my DA:O PCs were elven mages. I am a sucker for overcoming social  and theological odds and sticking it to the norms of those societies (my personal FU , if you will). Besides, I like being able to shoot lightning at fools and rain down fireballs.

As for Anders himself though , I am going to miss the earring something fierce:(.

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@Miri Aye. Personally, I really like the lore behind the Chantry; Andraste, the Maker, and the Chant, but how the Chantry grew to interpret the part about mages rankles, because Andraste marched to end tyranny, and the Chantry has become tyrants. It's terrifying to think that Ferelden is where the Chantry has the least influence in Thedas. :|

@Trip Me too ;-------; I think my brain will just interpose it regardless, because it looks so good on him!

I had one elven mage, and one human one, just to balance things out. Naturally, the elven one was a an entrop..ist...?/bloodmage, so she could have every stigma! 8D

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My Meme says I don't have to worry about going to Hell, 'cause "G~d ain't an idiot, like all them judgin' folks. Who wants to be gettin' up early on Sunday any ol' way. Day of rest, Gottdangit!" *giggle*
This is also the woman who told me the fair folk would eat my toes if I didn't listen to her. Her word is a little dubious. :D
Anyway, Boo, Chantry! Yay, Anders!
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@nenosronhir, It's a good thing that got completely twisted and broken. The Chant is good and a lot of the things it says are very nice, but The Chantry corrupted it to suit their needs. :<
My elf mage is argh!ScrewTheChantry!!!!
My human mage is the complete opposite. She'd give Keili a run for her money. XD

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@cave Exactly! Also, that whole phylactery thing - creepy. I think this is what absolutely bothers me the most about Circle Towers, aside from the whole being-watched-every-day-and-never-going-outside. Most of my non-mage Wardens were always like "... they take your blood and use it to track you if you escape? And that's not considered blood magic?"

That's pretty much the way the dynamic between my elf and human went XD Human was optimistic and chantry-loving, and would have preferred to stay in the tower. Elf was like FREEDOMMMMMMMMdoesthismeanIcanbringagonizingpaintoanyonewholooksatmefunnynow?

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My first run (who will of course romance Anders if possible) is probably going to be a warrior.

I like the idea of romancing Anders with a non-mage.  Since I'm already inclined to feel protective over Hawke's siblings (gah, Bioware devs, I reacted exactly as you hoped), my rogue or warrior Hawkes will probably have a strong sense of "Mages are cool; my sister is cool; you must be cool too, Anders!"

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@Cave that pic is hilarious! I can see that as a sig ;-)

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I always roll mage first in any RPG, so no question there.

Miri1984 wrote...
Lupus and I have pretty much whipped each other into a frenzy of chantry hate over the past few months (or maybe the hate was always there from Lupus - it certainly took a little teeny bit longer to grow for me) so CHANTRY HATING MAGE first off for the win.

Two words: Catholic school. Enough said, yes? ;)

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And, I've finished my 300 prompt. A bit late, clearly.

Friendship is its Own Reward

The return to Vigil’s Keep was less than triumphant.

While Anders would never question the Commander’s decision to save the city at the expense of the Wardens’ home- indeed, he had pushed her towards doing just that, the cost was high. The thought of everyone who had remained behind never left him, but even then Anders couldn’t even contemplate leaving the city to fall. Not when they were standing at the gates, literally close enough to hear the screams of terror from the residents. Not when they could actually watch as darkspawn struck down innocent people without resistance.

Sitting on the ground, back against the statue of Andraste, his eyes passed across what remained of the inner bailey. There was blood still splattered against the stone in places: this would just have to be the one time it went more than three days without rain since his arrival in Amaranthine.

One spot was from Oghren, he knew that much. Finding out he was alive, sleeping off several major injuries in the Keep’s infirmary, left him far more relieved than he would have expected. Indeed, he had spent more time keeping watch over the dwarf than anyone else, casting occasional spells to speed the process as much as he dared. The reaction of dwarves to magic was unpredictable. Were he human Anders could have healed him in a day or two. Unfortunately the lessened effects of magic on dwarves was true for all magic- harmful and helpful alike.

Velanna had disappeared to no one’s shock save, perhaps, Nathaniel. Howe had decided to mourn for her, assuming she was killed in the assault. Anders suspected she had just used that disappearing spell of hers- the same one she demonstrated when they first met in the woods. She didn’t really seem to be interested in being a Grey Warden beyond being able to find her sister more easily. Defending a fortress from waves of attacking darkspawn would probably make her even less keen on the idea.

Really, Anders wanted to be sad about it. She was a Warden and a sister, for as much as that meant to her. But… she was a difficult person to like. Or tolerate. Or not loathe utterly. The fact that she made no secret of her hate for him, as one of the few humans in their group, didn’t make things any easier. He was probably less ashamed than he should have been about being slightly relieved she was gone.

What troubled Anders the most, what stuck in his mind as he looked over rust-spattered walls and walkways, was the image that had left him frozen in horror at the doorway of the keep.

“Why do spirits seek out mages? I've always wondered.”

“You speak of demons. I am not a demon.”

“Aren't demons simply spirits with unique and sparkling personalities?”


Justice didn’t laugh. He never laughed. Or smiled. Or made jokes. Really, by all normal standards Anders used to judge people, he should have hated the man. Or spirit, perhaps, to be more accurate. He didn’t, though.

“Why do you not strike a blow against your oppressors? Ensure they can do this to no one else?”


How Anders had jumped at the turn of that conversation. It was fairly reassuring to know that the personification of all that was fair and just in the world agreed with his view of the treatment of mages. Not that the Chantry would care. It was more likely that they would have struck him down as an abomination in their usual heavy handed and brutal manor had they realized what he actually was. Anders doubted that a group who assumed all mages were simply potential maleficar would grasp the difference between a spirit and a demon. Still, it further reassured Anders of the rightness of his beliefs, which was never a bad thing.

They approached each other with trepidation at first. It was his fault, he could admit that. He drove the man… spirit… insane with questions. What do demons want with mages; are you saying you could become a demon; you must have some desires… Anders never let up. It was too tempting an opportunity to pass by. A chance to find out the motives of demons, to perhaps discover some additional ways to protect himself, was irresistible.

Not that Justice didn’t have his own thoughts on what Anders should have been doing with his life… Hardly a day went by without some needling comment about how his time would be better spent working towards freeing mages. He did manage to ignore most of the comments, pointing out that his noble crusade would be rather futile when some templar skewered them both through the middle.

It wasn’t until Justice started in on the cat that the two actually began to talk. “To enslave another creature does not seem just,” was what he had said. It chafed at Anders, to think that he could be no better than the Chantry in Ser Pounce’s feline eyes. He left his door open for several nights, even tried to shut the cat out at night. Pounce always returned.

“You don’t understand,” Anders tried to explain. “What life would he have without me?”

“A life of his own, of course,” was the predictable response.

“True,” Anders was forced to agree. “A life of his own, where the nearest farm dog would like nothing better than to have him for dinner. Where he would freeze in the rain and snow, and exist off rats and garbage.”

“Not unlike your existence before the Grey Wardens, it would seem,” Justice said. Anders choked back a laugh…. Was he making a joke? But no, he was quite serious about the comparison.

“You may be right,” Anders admitted. “Being a Warden… it’s not bad. I get food and a bed, they get a healer.” That gave him an idea. “It isn’t so different, with Pounce and I,” he went on. “I make sure he has a safe home and food, and he… well…”

“Yes?”

“He…” Anders shrugged. “He doesn’t really give much in return. But he is my friend, so I’m happy to keep an eye on him.”

“It sounds not entirely unlike your Circle,” Justice said. “They provided you with food and a bed, did they not?”

Anders narrowed his eyes. “And kept me prisoner,” he snapped. “I’m no prisoner of the Grey Wardens. I’m free to come and go as I please.”

“I see,” was all Justice said.

It was nearly a week later that Justice approached him again, as he practiced spells outside. Few people would come near Anders at such a time. The dwarves, of course, didn’t care. Magic was nothing to them, being practically immune and completely lacking the Chantry influence. Humans, however, and most elves, were almost universally uneasy with the prospect of actually seeing what made mages so very different. Even when that very mage had used his skills many times to save their very lives they often preferred avoiding any reminders. Justice had no such qualms, however.

“I believe I understand,” he said, walking over and speaking as though there conversation had ended moments, not days, ago.

“Oh?” Anders said noncommittally, switching to ranged spells so he could speak as he practiced. He hoped whatever else Justice had to say would reveal just what it was he understood so Anders wouldn’t be forced to admit he had no idea what the spirit was going on about.

“I have been speaking with Nathaniel,” Justice said in his careful way. “He has pointed out to me that, quite often, two can do together what neither could do alone.” He looked thoughtful. “That is the way of you and the Grey Wardens. They are stronger with you than without, and you are afforded a more comfortable life because of your association with them.”

“True enough,” Anders agreed.

Justice looked pleased. “I am curious, though,” he went on. “Although I can see the benefits your feline companion reaps from your association, I cannot quite understand what you gain.”

“Friendship can be its own reward, Justice,” was all Anders could think to say.

“On that I may have to take your word,” he said. “It is a concept I am still not entirely familiar with.”

Anders remembered how he looked over at him then, seeing past the decaying body to Justice himself. Even as he had pestered him for information on the fade and demons Justice had never spoken to him as anything less than an equal. “You may be more familiar with it than you realize,” he said finally, smiling.

Now he sat wondering which dark blight on the Keep was where that friend met his last moments. When they returned home it was Anders who found him. Or rather, found his head. The darkspawn had taken it, their nature driving them to cruelty almost automatically.

“Won’t he just go back to the Fade?” Nathaniel had asked as Anders stood by the pyre.

“You think I know?” Anders snapped.

“You’re a mage, aren’t you?” he asked. “I thought mages were knowledgeable about the fade.”

“Sure,” Anders said. “We understand next to nothing as compared to the more than nothing non-mages understand.”

Nathaniel seemed dubious, and left not long after.

Anders was napping several months later, strolling through a grove in the fade that looked remarkably like the woods outside Gwaren that he remembered from his childhood, when someone fell into step beside him. “You were right,” he said, voice clearer now that it wasn’t passing through the throat of a dead man. “Friendship is its own reward.”

“I’ve missed you,” Anders said a moment later.

“Missed…” he mused, as though the word was foreign to him. “Yes,” Justice finally said. “I have missed you as well, friend.” The two continued, walking side by side, for some time. It was the spirit who finally broke the silence. “I have been thinking,” he said. “We once spoke on how two together can be capable of much more than either would be alone. Do you remember?”

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@nenosronhir, The blatant hypocrisy of the Chantry makes my head hurt. heh
My poor elf was all "I hate the Chantry, but excuse me I'm going to make out with this almost Templar until I can get some mage lovin', thank you very much... that doesn't mean I like the Chantry though. Nope. Gonna burn it down.. Fire!" :D

@Avilia, if I get some free time that might happen. :D

@Lupus, that made my heart hurt a little. It was just beautiful. And don't feel bad my actual prompt fill is just half done. Priorities and what not.

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@Lupus That made me cry. It was gorgeous.

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@cave Fire is never too excessive, I find. Especially when it comes to the Chantry. XD

@Lupus Breathtaking. ;A;

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Thank you, everyone! I really wanted to set up a situation where the joining up plan didn't seem like such a horrible idea.

I'm so exhausted from work and all, so I'll comment on everything else tomorrow. But for now I'll say that I am CONSTANTLY AMAZED by how much fantastic talent there is in the Anders fan camp.

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@nenosronhir, I love your prompt fill! This is so Anders. Just like in the begining of Awakening when Mhairi is "OMG, they've killed Kenny", and Anders says: "Let's give him a drink!" I love it in Anders, how he's trying to joke even in the tragic moments :)

@Lupus, I love it! It was sad and touching and beautiful.

@Cave, your new Anders pictures are wonderful! They make me want the game like... More than a cake XD



I'm sure Anders is a romance option, btw. Not only because I already have it all in my head XD And not only because he's too handsome not to be a LI. I hope it won't turn into the same situation that was with that green dude from Mass Effect who was sick and girls were: "Aww, heal him, plz!!! <3" Maybe I'm a perv, but I will love BW forever it there will be an option to show Justice what is love :) I really like the idea of my f!Hawke being romantically involved with both of them. :)



Anders (talking to the mirror): Stop being mean to Cassy.

Justice: She's distracting us!

Anders: *smirks* I don't mind being distracted by a pretty lady.

Justice: We have an ultimate goal, you can't afford to be selfish!

Anders: Can I be selfish for an hour a day? *sigh* Look, we finally meet somebody who likes us both and says "Hey, your spirit is charming" instead of calling for templars. You should appreciate things like that, that's what we mortals do.

Justice: I'm not like you.

Anders: I thought you wanted to learn what it's like to be one of us :(

Justuce: ...

Anders: What?

Justice: I'll think about. After our mission is finished.

Anders: *facepalm*


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@Gala Thank you so much! I still have the learning-character-jitters, but I'm glad it came out alright! XD

Maybe I'm a perv, but I will love BW forever it there will be an option to show Justice what is love :) I really like the idea of my f!Hawke being romantically involved with both of them. :)



THIS. So much this. The part where Justice mentions that he envied what Kristoff and Aura had has been niggling the back of my mind ever since Anders was revealed to be possessed by him; so yes, I completely agree with you here. ;-----;



PS: I love your dialogues, they're too adorable. <3

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@nenosronhir, I believe the power of love will save Justice and turn him back towards the Light Side (this all is my old KotOR2 "I love Darth Sion because I think scars are hot" complex XD). And then he will stay with Hawke and Anders and it will be awesome and mama!Hawke will be terrified when she will find out! XD And Carver will totally tell her because he's the rival brother and loves to annoy his sister :) I know it's silly, but I never said I was clever :)
And thank you, I'm glad somebody likes my outbursts XD I need to share them or they will explode my brains.

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Hm, Marina would've never accepted possessed Anders, she had issues with Justice because Kristoff was her friend. I guess they were not meant to be, the First Warden summoned her to Anderfels anyway.


P.S. Checked Fenris' thread, I hope he will take all Alistair's fangirls and leave Anders to us untainted. I will start to love Fenris if he do it even though he's an elf with Shale's make-up and hatred for mages.

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