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[Zeleen]

Jestina wrote...

I wish archery was that good in game play.

She's actually very good with Archery..  how do you set her tactics?

edit: for top of page..

Modifié par Zeleen, 30 juin 2010 - 06:42 .

[Jestina]

Archery sucks in this game. I usually just set her out there as a distraction while my rogues and fighters do all the work. Even at high level the damage doesn't even come close to what a warrior or rogue with melee can do.

Another issue is that rogues won't flank unless you babysit them...and since i'm usually playing a rogue myself, I don't want to have to deal with a second one.

Modifié par Jestina, 30 juin 2010 - 07:44 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

I don't know, Nathaniel is a beast with his archery or was it just me?

But I still have not played an archer PC, mostly because yea archery seems underwhelming and more support like than anythign else. I just bring archery based Leliana along for the coolness factor, but I would be better off with another mage.

[Master Shiori]

Archery is awesome in Awakening, especially when combined with the right sustainable abilities.



In Origins, it's less powerfull but I find it usefull non the less.

[PickledGear]

She slaughters darkspawn at the end of origins when they're just hurlock grunt and genlock grunts. Since you never even get a chance to attack them at all XD

[adneate]

Archery: An Efficient Approach

Read it and understand, Archers are actually awesome they just have a very unconventional play style.

Modifié par adneate, 30 juin 2010 - 05:26 .

[epoch_]

Oh yes, new avatar.

[epoch_]

ok, this one:





or this one:

[Axekix]

I like the top one myself. So, what's the sig supposed to be?

Modifié par Axekix, 30 juin 2010 - 07:35 .

[epoch_]

I'm still working on it.

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

Archery is pretty beastly towards the end of the game if you build it with Song of Courage and a ton of cunning.



Right now my Leliana has around 45 cunning and 30 dex. Basically I have a mage Cone of Cold 3-5 guys then she will scattershot and shatter half of them at least sometimes all of them. Not to mention she does work on bosses with her crit damage boosted and high crit rate she does probably the most consistent damage since she is never CC'd or knockbacked or busy healing.

[Jestina]

adneate wrote...
Archery: An Efficient Approach
Read it and understand, Archers are actually awesome they just have a very unconventional play style.

That's like trying to translate latin or something. Basically if you don't know the numbers behind the scenes you are gimped with archery. Plus you can't stack like runes and other benefits on bows like you can with melee weapons.

I try to switch Leli to DW since archery is such a pain but unless you actually play a rogue they are not as effective. I hope those issues are fixed in the next game.

[PickledGear]

Finally done with it so here is my congrats to us reaching 100 pages for the thread!







Originally I was going to kill 2 birds with 1 stone and have her in a pool of caramel pudding and 100 was written in the caramel but I decided against it. BTW if you want this shaded and finished (the whole kit and kiboodle) just tell me if theres a overwhelming support for a finished piece then I'll do it. (Oh and the sign can say anything so its a perfect if you want something different to say )

[adneate]

Jestina wrote...

That's like trying to translate latin or something. Basically if you don't know the numbers behind the scenes you are gimped with archery. Plus you can't stack like runes and other benefits on bows like you can with melee weapons.

I try to switch Leli to DW since archery is such a pain but unless you actually play a rogue they are not as effective. I hope those issues are fixed in the next game.

Well in the end DA's combat system is all about the numbers, archery more so than any other. A simple fix is to just get the faster bow talents mod, it speeds up the cast times for the squad based on your fire rate. I don't consider it cheating since all it does is make an archer able to fire their abilities without screwing themselves over in the long run. It will take a total overhaul of the entire combat system to fix archery it's totally busted in Origins and Awakening, the new modal ability Accuracy in Awakening breaks the entire combat system it's so overpowered.

The problem with DW rogues is they need to be mico-managed to be really effective whereas an archer properly built and programmed can be left alone and still deal tons of damage. When it comes down to the hard numbers and actual gameplay Leliana is far superior to Zevran. Since most Rogue talents are built for a DW back stab rogue, Zevran can never be as good a lock picker as Leliana without cheating or hurting his combat effectiveness. Leliana on the other hand only needs to get to Lethality as quick as possible after that you can develop her lock pick and bard skills without really worrying about archery until later in the game, doing so will actually increase her usefulness in and out of combat since Bard Songs are based on cunning which Leliana builds with approval. Then it's a matter of developing two attributes Dexterity which increases her attack and defence score and cunning which increases damage and Bard Songs.

[Jestina]

I can't seem to get Schmooples on my current game.



Is there something you have to do to unlock the question you ask the dwarf? I've never had any problems with it before.

[SirEmilCrane]

Jestina wrote...

I can't seem to get Schmooples on my current game.

Is there something you have to do to unlock the question you ask the dwarf? I've never had any problems with it before.

You have ot have Leli with you and she has to have said that she wants one

[adneate]

Ah Canada day, the birthday of our glorious confederation if you'll all excuse me I have to prepare to get blind drunk today!



Also Good work Gary don't feel pressured into going out of your way for us.

[Zeleen]

Gary.. I love your work..

[Zeleen]

adneate wrote...

Ah Canada day, the birthday of our glorious confederation if you'll all excuse me I have to prepare to get blind drunk today!

Also Good work Gary don't feel pressured into going out of your way for us.

Stay safe!

[adneate]

Always so responsible Zeleen. By the way aren't you glad you got the toolset? I must say you're getting very good at it.

[Zeleen]

adneate wrote...

Always so responsible Zeleen. By the way aren't you glad you got the toolset? I must say you're getting very good at it.

can't help being a "mom" 
and yes, I love the toolset, I think I'm addicted to it LOL! and thank you for the compliment.

[Axekix]

Zeleen wrote...

adneate wrote...

Always so responsible Zeleen. By the way aren't you glad you got the toolset? I must say you're getting very good at it.

can't help being a "mom" 
and yes, I love the toolset, I think I'm addicted to it LOL! and thank you for the compliment.

Oh wow.  I'll second adneate's comment.  The PC in your av is quite striking! 

Got any bigger shots of her?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Oh right, I forgot it was Canada day. Oh well, I'll celebrate it once I get back...erm..in a different fashion than Adneate

And yea Zeleen's avatar is classy. Well done!

[Sarah1281]

So...what IS Canada Day anyway?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sarah1281 wrote...

So...what IS Canada Day anyway?

It's when we celebrate how we are better than you Americans

Jk, it's the national day, celebrating Canada's creation and pseudo-independence from the British, with the creation of the BNA / Constitution act in 1867.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 01 juillet 2010 - 06:46 .