The Bard from Orlais - A Leliana Appreciation thread
#3251
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:17
#3252
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:17
Giggles_Manically wrote...
Yep Dragon Age 2 trading the RPG in for stylish gore. Everyday I try to stay as a paragon, but EA may just yet might make me a renegade,
Yes. Turn to the renegade side, fry the council and give the base to the Illusive Man he has the right idea. Together we will rule the galaxy as the Systems Empire.
#3253
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:21
adneate wrote...
Giggles_Manically wrote...
Yep Dragon Age 2 trading the RPG in for stylish gore. Everyday I try to stay as a paragon, but EA may just yet might make me a renegade,
Yes. Turn to the renegade side, fry the council and give the base to the Illusive Man he has the right idea. Together we will rule the galaxy as the Systems Empire.
Or watch as uncounted imperfect beings are sent to become reaper goo. I hate that Bastard and see him as nothing more than A space HItler. The council while annoying are politicans they cant just declare a public crisis on shaky evidence.
While I play a Paragade mindset, TIM hase only one place. Against a wall with a firing squad facing him.
Also I will never turn to the renegade side, you failed adneate I am a paragon like my father before me.
#3254
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:22
#3255
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:23
#3256
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:30
Giggles_Manically wrote...
Did I mention that I play as a sentinel so if you try anything you get hit as well?
I'm a Vanguard so charge and headshot with the Claymore.
In all seriousness I'm hesitent to hand the base over I have two saves one where I did and one where I didn't, I don't want to win the war with the Reapers only to have the stupid Turians make a butt hurt land grab on the Alliance. Seriously everybody just needs to get over that stupid council, they're dead deal with it. I also like to think my Renegade isn't unprincipled, she makes the hard decisions that others aren't willing to. So since I refuse to meta-game and save the council just to have the stupid happy feel good outcome, I'll stick with my original outcome that they're all dead.
#3257
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:33
wadda ya mean?? where does it say that??epoch_ wrote...
Zeleen wrote...
Wait a minute...... where does it say the character is human?
hawke is basically shepard. You can have a male or female character, but you can't change the race.
#3258
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:33
adneate wrote...
Giggles_Manically wrote...
Did I mention that I play as a sentinel so if you try anything you get hit as well?
I'm a Vanguard so charge and headshot with the Claymore.
In all seriousness I'm hesitent to hand the base over I have two saves one where I did and one where I didn't, I don't want to win the war with the Reapers only to have the stupid Turians make a butt hurt land grab on the Alliance. Seriously everybody just needs to get over that stupid council, they're dead deal with it. I also like to think my Renegade isn't unprincipled, she makes the hard decisions that others aren't willing to. So since I refuse to meta-game and save the council just to have the stupid happy feel good outcome, I'll stick with my original outcome that they're all dead.
I doubt that Bioware will give anyone a happy ending. Shep will probably do some noble heroic sacrifce DATA style for the rest of the galaxy. Besides saving them tactical sense, but this is about Redheads not reapers.
God I miss Leliana in ME2. She was a badass, without screaming it at me every 10 seconds.
#3259
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:37
Giggles_Manically wrote...
I doubt that Bioware will give anyone a happy ending. Shep will probably do some noble heroic sacrifce DATA style for the rest of the galaxy. Besides saving them tactical sense, but this is about Redheads not reapers.
God I miss Leliana in ME2. She was a badass, without screaming it at me every 10 seconds.
They said ME3 was supposed to be more Return of the Jedi compared to ME2's The Empire Strikes Back. Plus I disagree with saving the council to be the tactically sensible option but this thread is supposed to be about redheads. My Shepard was a redhead that's pretty close.
#3260
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:39
adneate wrote...
Giggles_Manically wrote...
I doubt that Bioware will give anyone a happy ending. Shep will probably do some noble heroic sacrifce DATA style for the rest of the galaxy. Besides saving them tactical sense, but this is about Redheads not reapers.
God I miss Leliana in ME2. She was a badass, without screaming it at me every 10 seconds.
They said ME3 was supposed to be more Return of the Jedi compared to ME2's The Empire Strikes Back. Plus I disagree with saving the council to be the tactically sensible option but this thread is supposed to be about redheads. My Shepard was a redhead that's pretty close.Though to be honest I think she shot way more people than Leliana would have.
These forums are so depressing today. Anywho Paragade FTW and I have to pack something to eat for wok since the stampede parade is using one of the parking lots at work so I get some overtime, but have to wait a long time over lunch. SEE yah.
#3261
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:42
Giggles_Manically wrote...
These forums are so depressing today.
Well it's not every day that you get every hope and desire for the sequel to one of the best games ever brutally curb stomped in front of you.
#3262
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:45

You do know there is a Dragon Age 2 forum.. for these discussions?..
Giggles_Manically wrote...
These forums are so depressing today.
Modifié par Zeleen, 09 juillet 2010 - 02:49 .
#3263
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:49
#3264
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:52
Zeleen wrote...
wadda ya mean?? where does it say that??epoch_ wrote...
Zeleen wrote...
Wait a minute...... where does it say the character is human?
hawke is basically shepard. You can have a male or female character, but you can't change the race.
No one answered my question... where does it say that Hawke is human?
#3265
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:53
#3266
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:54
#3267
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 02:59
Victor Wachter wrote...
Wolf--Shadow wrote...
Oh, so everything that was established in DAO is now pointless?
And Bioware has decided to take one step forward and three steps back?
DA:O is far from pointless, as you'll learn when you play DA2.
I've talked with Design quite a bit about Hawke, the DA2 lead character. There were a lot of directions that they could have gone, but ultimately, I think they made the right choice to tell the best story in this installment. Between now and launch, you'll learn more about Hawke and the story, which will shed a little more light on why Hawke was the hero that the world (i.e. this story) needed.
hmm... maybe we should wait for more info before we fly off the handle???
#3268
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 03:06
Zeleen wrote...
hmm... maybe we should wait for more info before we fly off the handle???
Pfft, you can believe BioWare's word if you want to. I learned my lesson already.
#3269
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 03:06
adneate wrote...
Giggles_Manically wrote...
These forums are so depressing today.
Well it's not every day that you get every hope and desire for the sequel to one of the best games ever brutally curb stomped in front of you.
So two concept art photos and a 100ish word article ended the DA series? Bioware aren't rookie story tellers they are pretty good at what they do. I doubt this very very tiny teaser will be even close to what we think/know when August 17th roles around. Let alone what we will be thinking early 2011. I also don't understand all the hate on the new combat system? We don't even know what it is going to include. They used spartan as a metaphor, and people are thinking they are turning DA into ACTIONACTIONACTIONDIALOGUEACTIONACTIONACTIONSPARTANKICKACTIONACTIONACTION That truly bewilders me, also the Hawke name is bewildering why Bioware did you choose that name? Why? Now we have all these stupid word plays with Hawke going around.
#3270
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 03:18
adneate wrote...
Zeleen wrote...
hmm... maybe we should wait for more info before we fly off the handle???
Pfft, you can believe BioWare's word if you want to. I learned my lesson already.
I'm not upset in the slightest, all they've done today is kill any chance of me placing a pre-order or buying the game until it goes on sale. I will buy it, just not 50-60 bucks. The reveals from now until Feb. is Bioware's chance to change my mind on that.
They have released enough information though for people to form opinions on the game already, so the smugly shocked 'Forums overreacting about a game they don't know' coming from company men and asskissing posters is completely wrong. They stressed that choices mattered, and then it comes out that Origins was just the Cliff Notes for Thedas and in the scheme of things...cosmic shrug. No choices in race, background, or even true customization other than boy or girl, look this way or look that way. Going to be born the same, going to sound the same, and going to live the same (just one will be slightly meaner than the other). The combat will be more extreme, the graphics so badass, the characters Spartans!
On the plus side, there looks to be sixteen NPCs. I'm willing to plunk down money a few of them will be Origin NPCs returned (handwaving whatever ending they received in our games as A.U.) so it's very possible that even if the Warden's not around we can still see the Morrigan's, Leliana's, and Sten's.
Question for you though...would you want Leliana back in DA2 without the Warden?
#3271
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 03:18
Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...
So two concept art photos and a 100ish word article ended the DA series? Bioware aren't rookie story tellers they are pretty good at what they do. I doubt this very very tiny teaser will be even close to what we think/know when August 17th roles around. Let alone what we will be thinking early 2011. I also don't understand all the hate on the new combat system? We don't even know what it is going to include. They used spartan as a metaphor, and people are thinking they are turning DA into ACTIONACTIONACTIONDIALOGUEACTIONACTIONACTIONSPARTANKICKACTIONACTIONACTION That truly bewilders me, also the Hawke name is bewildering why Bioware did you choose that name? Why? Now we have all these stupid word plays with Hawke going around.
Dude did you actually read what the devs have been saying in the DA2 forum, the game they are describing sounds like ME2 with swords. As for BioWare infalliable story telling, Mass Effect 2.
#3272
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 03:26
#3273
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 03:30
#3274
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 04:00
Swoo wrote...
On the plus side, there looks to be sixteen NPCs. I'm willing to plunk down money a few of them will be Origin NPCs returned (handwaving whatever ending they received in our games as A.U.) so it's very possible that even if the Warden's not around we can still see the Morrigan's, Leliana's, and Sten's.
Question for you though...would you want Leliana back in DA2 without the Warden?
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Like I said in the Morrigan thread I want to see Morrigan and that's it. If Leliana was back without the warden It would effectively be character assassination as far as I'm concerned much like MacWalters concerted attempts to destroy Liara T'Soni's character in ME2. If they come in and retcon everything from Origins then I'm out, I won't complain I'll just walk plain and simple.
Choice in games already is a freaking joke nothing you do ever actually matters, you don't like an outcome reload and get the good one. Everyone and everything in the entire universe bends to the PC's will, in DA at least some things resist the player and refuse to be changed. But of course following up that story would be hard and expensive so let's just come in and enforce strict canon but bring back characters anyway and ****** on everything the player ever did. Which leads to the greater question why freaking bother in the first god damn place, if you knew you couldn't ever follow up after creating a game with 20 different endings then don't make them. Instead of something interesting we get the same mass market garbage that any idiot studio can do, It blows my mind that this is what they came up with. After all the **** and bull with Origins and shoehorning The Warden into Awakening in the end it was all for nothing because Hawke can do what The Warden can't which is apparently be Commander Shepard.
But the masses have spoken haven't they, ME2 did way better than Origins so therefore DA should become ME2. People don't want Leliana, Zevran and Morrigan they want Miranda Lawson, Jack and Thane. I can't believe it when people legitimately tell me that ME2's collection of backstory's with faces are better than Oghren and Sten. It's unbelieveable, It's like there is something in the water and everyone is nuts. The analogy is like somebody saying with a straight face that Twilight is better than Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet or that Lady Gaga is better than Joy Division. I get that there is personal opinion and people have different tastes but you can't really believe things like that because it's just wrong. If you sat down and actually thought about it you should come to a logical conclusion, 2+2=4 not 55. It's upseting because it seems like nobody cares, BioWare doesn't care, the fans don't really care, nobody gives a crap about anything. People who speak out are just whiners and typical internet crybabies. Everybody is happy to get crap and are ready to assume the consumer position, bent over the table with their pants down.
People say stuff like "Have faith in BioWare" and "They've never let us down before". Where do people get this sense of loyalty to a company who's end goal is to seperate them from their hard earned money. People will shout down dissenters with crap like "BioWare doesn't owe you anything," that's true but why are you defending them? They wouldn't ****** on you if you were on fire. And they have let us down, Killing Shepard so they didn't have to follow up any of the choices you made in the first but still be able to magically ressurrect him is the biggest cop out ever. Why did they do it? Because they promised EA a trilogy and only have enough material for two games and actually following through on the whole choice thing would have undermined their efforts to turn ME2 into a Gears of War clone with a dialogue system. Now we get the same stupid crap excuse in another game, well sorry if this time I don't buy into it.
End Rant.
#3275
Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 04:08
Zeleen wrote...
soo after playing Leliana's Song.. I revamped my mod... gave her back the blue eyes.. thinking about a pony tail.. hmmm
You do know there is a Dragon Age 2 forum.. for these discussions?..Giggles_Manically wrote...
These forums are so depressing today.
I gave her a sort of bun/pony tail for Leliana's song. I wanted her to have longer hair, since when we meet up with Marjolaine in Origins she remarks about cutting off her hair.
I just finished Leliana's song, and I really liked it, I just wish it was longer! Zeleen told me to post my Leli pictures in here, so I am! They're Leli-esque, since she's morphed
wicked, evil, hate Marjolaine

whispering

And just because she's so cute






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