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[tmp7704]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

None of the Morrigan thread would do that, they are cool people, none of the Zevran thread would do it either. Probably the Alistair thread, they are still miffed that Alistair and Leliana hooked up in TDSC DLC.

The way forum layout is done, it's easy to click the 4-stars when simply trying to click on the "next page" link. Happened in other threads too.

edit: 'ede by Gilsa. again.

Modifié par tmp7704, 09 juin 2010 - 01:08 .

[Addai]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

None of the Morrigan thread would do that, they are cool people, none of the Zevran thread would do it either. Probably the Alistair thread, they are still miffed that Alistair and Leliana hooked up in TDSC DLC.

Someone downrated the Alistair thread, too, after it used to be 5 stars.  Not that I care about such things.  1600+ pages speaks for itself and Leliana isn't worth the effort.  :innocent:

But I imagine that it's more likely the romance haters.  You see them around every once in awhile, talking about how pathetic it is to have a pixel girlfriend/ boyfriend.  They eat ogres for breakfast, never met a dungeon crawl they didn't like, etc. etc.  We have to endure idiot DLCs because of them, and that's the main insult.

[Zeleen]

epoch_ wrote...

Glancing quickly through this thread, it looks like every has changed Leliana. While the choice is yours, obviously, don't you feel like you're changing who she is? I changed her for a day using the DA redesigned version 11 model, but changed it back after about a day. She's beautiful the way she is, and it just feels wrong changing her into something she's not.

And I am aware that most of the alt morphs are based off of the sacred ashes trailer, but even then, the characters from that are based off of real life models, not what BioWare intended.

Well............  changing the way she looks does not change her personality or the way the character behaves in a game..  OMG if it was based on just the looks...  well I would expect her to say,,,





I apprecieate the nuance of the character not necessarily whether her eyes are green or if she's the vanilla flavor or whatever.  Sometimes after a few playthroughs it's nice to experiment and hey if you find a new favorit SO WHAT!!!

[Axekix]

Zeleen wrote...

What?  does that mean exactly?

The thread was 5 stars earlier today, now it's down to 4... the only other 4 star fan thread is the Alistair fan club... but with the kind of depravity that goes on in there it's deserved I think.

[Axekix]

Gilsa wrote...

Every time I romanced Zevran, he had a different look. It was just a way to keep the game from getting stale. Unless someone breaks into my house and plays on my computer, I don't really care what people do with the characters in their games.

Leliana is very pretty in her original model, but I've played with her on friend-status so many times that it helps to have a mod to get me to stop going through the motions and pay more attention to this "new" person in my party.

Yeah I get this.  Do you play with the DA-redesigned white hair zev morph?  That's the only Zev morph I've ever been tempted to use... though considering I almost never actually use him it would be a waste for me.

[Zeleen]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Well yeah, you are practically taking a weewee on the piece of the true cross, the original Guttenberg bible, and the shroud of turin. Then drinking American Beer out of the holy grail, what do you think a normal person would do?

Giggles... you gave  me giggles with that one  But the really funny part is.. it so true

[Zeleen]

Axekix wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

What?  does that mean exactly?

The thread was 5 stars earlier today, now it's down to 4... the only other 4 star fan thread is the Alistair fan club... but with the kind of depravity that goes on in there it's deserved I think.

so does that mean we got a bad review from someone??  bummer

OH WELL!

[Axekix]

Zeleen wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

What?  does that mean exactly?

The thread was 5 stars earlier today, now it's down to 4... the only other 4 star fan thread is the Alistair fan club... but with the kind of depravity that goes on in there it's deserved I think.

so does that mean we got a bad review from someone??  bummer

OH WELL!

It was Addai!  I just know it!

[Sarah1281]

Zeleen wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

What?  does that mean exactly?

The thread was 5 stars earlier today, now it's down to 4... the only other 4 star fan thread is the Alistair fan club... but with the kind of depravity that goes on in there it's deserved I think.

so does that mean we got a bad review from someone??  bummer

OH WELL!

It's probably more than one. They average how many stars the various voters give it so either there are a lot of negative ones or not very many positive ones to have it average out that way.

[Zeleen]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

More Leli



BTW, how do you people RP her barding skills?
I mean do you actually RP it that she is singing in the middle of battle?

I personally RP it as her saying stuff like "The rightheous stand before the darkness, and the Maker shall guide their hand" like in the trailer in a melodic tone, to inspire the rest of the companions (or make Morrigan angry and thus more efficient).  

I've never activated her skill that freezes her...  but I use the defensive skill and offensive skills often..

[Giggles_Manically]

Zeleen wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Well yeah, you are practically taking a weewee on the piece of the true cross, the original Guttenberg bible, and the shroud of turin. Then drinking American Beer out of the holy grail, what do you think a normal person would do?

Giggles... you gave  me giggles with that one  But the really funny part is.. it so true

Yah while I usually am the ones making jokes in a situation, or trying to use humor my name dosent come from that. While playing multi-player games I have a really bad habit of laughing or giggling when I do well.

For example in MW2 everytime I get a could kill I laugh, because my friends get angry at me for winning. I also laugh right before getting a headshot, so everybody has learned to duck by this point. The name kinda stuck after a while. It is better than my old one ZeMonglHords. But thanks for the compliment.

[Kryyptehk]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

What?  does that mean exactly?

The thread was 5 stars earlier today, now it's down to 4... the only other 4 star fan thread is the Alistair fan club... but with the kind of depravity that goes on in there it's deserved I think.

so does that mean we got a bad review from someone??  bummer

OH WELL!

It's probably more than one. They average how many stars the various voters give it so either there are a lot of negative ones or not very many positive ones to have it average out that way.

If it makes you guys feel any better, I just rated it five stars:wizard:

[Sarah1281]

Kryyptehk wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

What?  does that mean exactly?

The thread was 5 stars earlier today, now it's down to 4... the only other 4 star fan thread is the Alistair fan club... but with the kind of depravity that goes on in there it's deserved I think.

so does that mean we got a bad review from someone??  bummer

OH WELL!

It's probably more than one. They average how many stars the various voters give it so either there are a lot of negative ones or not very many positive ones to have it average out that way.

If it makes you guys feel any better, I just rated it five stars:wizard:

And now it's back to five stars again. It must be very close between four and five stars then.

[Zeleen]

jsr24 wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

I usually leave her how she is because of the dialogue options I start feeling bad crushing her faith and what not, but then again she really has different ideas than what the Chantry teaches.

Leliana's faith isn't crushed. All hardening her does is make her more willing to embrace her enjoyment of certain aspects of the bardic lifestyle she continues to utilize such as the thrill of the hunt. You're basically just telling her to stop pretending to be someone she's not and she is still a very devout (and not happy about defiling the ashes) woman.

IIRC she is like am I alone what if my vision is meaningless or something like that I could be remembering wrong it has been a while since I have done the hardening dialogue, and I overstated with the phrase crushing her faith, but still she believed strongly in her vision,, and letting her believe it is meaningless or not important I think damages her faith.

My experience in hardening her has always been that she sees the world as having beauty and great darkness.. and if you always hide from the darkness you may never see beauty but only fear.  And she is willing to face and fight the darkness and bring light in its place.
something like that..

Modifié par Zeleen, 09 juin 2010 - 01:23 .

[Axekix]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

What?  does that mean exactly?

The thread was 5 stars earlier today, now it's down to 4... the only other 4 star fan thread is the Alistair fan club... but with the kind of depravity that goes on in there it's deserved I think.

so does that mean we got a bad review from someone??  bummer

OH WELL!

It's probably more than one. They average how many stars the various voters give it so either there are a lot of negative ones or not very many positive ones to have it average out that way.

If it makes you guys feel any better, I just rated it five stars:wizard:

And now it's back to five stars again. It must be very close between four and five stars then.

Haters can't keep us down.  Back ahead of the Alistair thread!

Happy dance!

[Zeleen]

Sarah1281 wrote...

You know, I don't think in any of my playthroughs I've ever actually changed her outfit out of the default Chantry one...

Aww... not nice since the Orlasian Bard loves clothes and shoes... pretty shoes..
I still think we need to set a day for fashion

[Sarah1281]

Zeleen wrote...

jsr24 wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

I usually leave her how she is because of the dialogue options I start feeling bad crushing her faith and what not, but then again she really has different ideas than what the Chantry teaches.

Leliana's faith isn't crushed. All hardening her does is make her more willing to embrace her enjoyment of certain aspects of the bardic lifestyle she continues to utilize such as the thrill of the hunt. You're basically just telling her to stop pretending to be someone she's not and she is still a very devout (and not happy about defiling the ashes) woman.

IIRC she is like am I alone what if my vision is meaningless or something like that I could be remembering wrong it has been a while since I have done the hardening dialogue, and I overstated with the phrase crushing her faith, but still she believed strongly in her vision,, and letting her believe it is meaningless or not important I think damages her faith.

My experience in hardening her has always been that she sees the world as having beauty and great darkness.. and if you always hide from the darkness you may never see beauty but only fear.  And she is willing to face and fight the darkness and bring light in its place.
something like that..

Hardening Leliana...
Leliana: W-what if she's right. What if we're the same? I...I should juts have stayed in the Chantry.
PC: She would have attacked you there eventually.
Leliana: Maybe, but that is not the point. I was a different person there.I forgot my life as a bard while i was in the cloister. I felt safe. I didn't have to watch my back all the time. That's what made Marjolaine the person she is, don't you see? It ruined her; it will ruin me too. It's already happened. When we killed her I...I enjoyed it. Seeing her dead gave me satisfaction.
PC: So? She deserved it.
Leliana: But that is no reason to rejoice over her death. That is what she would do. I don't want that.  What we're doing...what we've done--hunted men down, killed them--part of me loves it. It invigorates me and this scares me. I...I feel myself slipping.
PC: Don't punish yourself for doing something you enjoy.
Leliana: I admit that I took great pleasure in the intrigue back in Orlais. It was dangerous and chaotic...and exciting, but it destroyed my life. I thought the Chantry showed me another path. I thought I aws done with this life...am I wrong?
PC: All you were doing in the Chantry was running away.
Leliana: Here, with you...knowing the freedom of the road and uncertainty of tomorrow...I feel alive again.
PC: Then stop running scared from it.
Leliana: I would like to be alone, for now. I have many things to consider. Thank you, for listening to me.

See? You don't have to shake her faith at all. What you did, I think, was reply to her 'I...I should just have stayed in the Chantry' with 'But you said the Maker wanted you to leave' which leads to:
Leliana: I could have been wrong about the Maker! I...I know you doubt me sometimes. Maybe...you're right! Maybe...maybe I just tell myself He's there to console myself. To know there's someone watching out or me, to know I'm not alone.
PC: Don't lose your faith now.
Leliana: Maybe I never found faith, I just pretended to because...because I knew the Chantry would hide me.

That takes you to the line 'I forgot my life as a bard while I was in the cloister. I felt safe. I didn't have to watch my back all the time' which is before you have the dialogue option to harden her or not so you can get her to admit she doubts her faith and leave her unhardened and really, you say nothing at this point to try and make her doubt herself. Since no one believes her and it's such herecy she doubts her vision already.

[Zeleen]

epoch_ wrote...

To contribute to the thread:



I'm not going to critisize anyone for deciding to change her or anything, or even attempt to change anyone's mind. I just wanted to say how I felt about it.

I think we can all agree to disagree and still have a great Leli thread!!

[Sarah1281]

Zeleen wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

You know, I don't think in any of my playthroughs I've ever actually changed her outfit out of the default Chantry one...

Aww... not nice since the Orlasian Bard loves clothes and shoes... pretty shoes..
I still think we need to set a day for fashion

I only ever change my PC's clothes and Alistair's either when we get to RtO and get Cailan's armor (but Loghain often goes instead) or when I take him to the Landsmeet so he looks slightly more impressive.

[Zeleen]

Axekix wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

Axekix wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

What?  does that mean exactly?

The thread was 5 stars earlier today, now it's down to 4... the only other 4 star fan thread is the Alistair fan club... but with the kind of depravity that goes on in there it's deserved I think.

so does that mean we got a bad review from someone??  bummer

OH WELL!

It's probably more than one. They average how many stars the various voters give it so either there are a lot of negative ones or not very many positive ones to have it average out that way.

If it makes you guys feel any better, I just rated it five stars:wizard:

And now it's back to five stars again. It must be very close between four and five stars then.

Haters can't keep us down.  Back ahead of the Alistair thread!

Happy dance!

**sending love and peace to the Alistair thread**


**Maker help us**

Modifié par Zeleen, 09 juin 2010 - 01:53 .

[Shadedclan]

Is that Alistair? I think its Anders!

[Sarah1281]

Shadedclan wrote...

Is that Alistair? I think its Anders!

It's Anderstair. He gets modded quite a bit over there...

[Kryyptehk]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Shadedclan wrote...

Is that Alistair? I think its Anders!

It's Anderstair. He gets modded quite a bit over there...

Rather, his hair gets modded a lot lol.

[Shadedclan]

Okay, I'm missing something here. What's up?

[Giggles_Manically]

At least it better than Naked Barbarian alistair ouch.

Or Alistair and Cammen at day ago. this pic sums it up:

Listen to the owl there are creepy pics on the Ali thread.

Modifié par Seagloom, 26 juin 2010 - 10:30 .