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[vigna]

nerdage wrote...

I have not actually played through and hardened her yet, might do that while I wait for Friday.

I used to avoid hardening her because I thought it turned her evil, it was at least my 6th playthrough before I tried it, now I do it every time. If only because I usually end up traveling with her and, unhardened, I don't think that's what she wants.

I have never "hardened" her. Is it worth   a new play through to do this? I almost always play as a nicer person--so I just dragged her along and tried to change her.  Can you harden her and still be a more paragon person?

For instance....if you harden her will she always try to kill you if you spoil the ashes? I have never spoiled the ashes.

[adneate]

Well the Urn is make or break for Leliana, unchanged she will attack regardless of what you say if you try to destroy the ashes she will try to stop you. If you harden her you have the option to intimidate her to make her fall in line, though she will hate The Warden for it. She's a bit more of a free spirited Bard if you change her but she's a stronger more principled person if you don't.

[Giggles_Manically]

I dont why people are suprised about how leli and Wynne spaz about the Urn and defiling it.



Thats almost like smoking bacon on the Ark of the Covenant, and drinking American beer out of the holy Grail whilst doing it.

[adneate]

Well I know from Medieval II Total War that people can get very spazzed out about defiling holy places, let's just say I didn't win any allies in the Middle East when I sacked Mecca as the Kingdom of Jerusalem. Though when the Seljuk's sent a force to retake the city I don't think the battle turned out how they expected it.

I've never seen a battle in Stainless Steel become that one sided before, it wasn't even really a battle it quickly became a complete massacre.

Modifié par adneate, 03 septembre 2010 - 05:10 .

[Giggles_Manically]

I love the Total War series.



Mainly since playing as the Greeks is so OP.

Lets just say Spartans holding the end of the street, and then others closing the other end, is nothing less than a meat grinder.

[Zhijn]

Lei is sad no Warden is coming to find her in a DLC!. =(

Modifié par Zhijn, 03 septembre 2010 - 07:47 .

[Master Shiori]

Zhijn wrote...

Lei is sad no Warden is coming to find her in a DLC!. =(

She and the Warden hook up again in Denerim after Awakening.

[Zjarcal]

No need to find her if you haven't lost her!

[Giggles_Manically]

I havent lost her.

I just happen to be wandering in DLC and Awakening Limbo.



Thats all.

[Zjarcal]

Huh? Limbo regarding Leli?

[Lenimph]

Zjarcal wrote...

Huh? Limbo regarding Leli?

I wanna limbo with Leli 

[Zjarcal]

Lenimph wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Huh? Limbo regarding Leli?

I wanna limbo with Leli 

Heh, me too! 

[Giggles_Manically]

Zjarcal wrote...

Lenimph wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Huh? Limbo regarding Leli?

I wanna limbo with Leli 

Heh, me too! 

We may have to share since I have:
A DN, DC, CE, HN X2 , Dalish, and Mage who romanced her.

WHAT!?!

[Nerdage]

vigna wrote...

nerdage wrote...

I have not actually played through and hardened her yet, might do that while I wait for Friday.

I used to avoid hardening her because I thought it turned her evil, it was at least my 6th playthrough before I tried it, now I do it every time. If only because I usually end up traveling with her and, unhardened, I don't think that's what she wants.

I have never "hardened" her. Is it worth   a new play through to do this? I almost always play as a nicer person--so I just dragged her along and tried to change her.  Can you harden her and still be a more paragon person?

For instance....if you harden her will she always try to kill you if you spoil the ashes? I have never spoiled the ashes.

Depends how much the post-game means to you I guess, it doesn't make much difference to the game itself (unless you want to defile the ashes, when you'll want to harden her to keep her alive, but considering she then hates you all you really gain by that is a rogue, you lose the character). The most important change it made (I thought) was the post-coronation conversation and her plans for after, though I usually romance her and choose travelling so all I've seen is it's effect on that conversation. I think you need to download a dialogue fix for some of the hardened dialogue changes to show, but they're still nothing game-changing.

Also, a quick hardened-Leliana quote just to make a point (it's from memory, so I doubt it's word-for-word): "The maker made the world beautiful, but he also made it dangerous, to fully experience it I have to face up to this"
She's still essentially a good person, she just becomes more adventurous.

Modifié par nerdage, 04 septembre 2010 - 02:31 .

[vigna]

AAAhhh, thanks all. I guess I don't see the point in doing it then.

[Burritos]

Only benefit to hardeneing her if you want to become Prince Consort and keep her as a mistress, or a fade to black threesome.

[Giggles_Manically]

So does anyone have a favourite Origin to romance Leliana with.

[Zjarcal]

I have romanced her with a HNF, Mage, and a Dalish. I love them all but I may be leaning towards the Dalish.



I like it mostly because of the psychological barriers that must be broken. Leliana is a shem and a Chantry devotee to boot. And then she talks about elves in Orlais and ends up looking silly.



Still, looking past all those things to see that there's a free spirit who views things her way and not necessarily the chantry way very nice. Also, Leliana states an admiration for the Dalish lifestyle (being one with nature and the freedom thing) so I can picture some pleasant traveling around once the blight is over.

[Burritos]

Mine is human noble male, because of all the death in the origin, then meeting Leliana and her views on love. Then hearing her sadness when I married someone other then her. I really like Leliana in the mistress role.

But figuring this is the Leliana thread I thought I would post this

http://browse.devian...laine?#/d2xgszd

It's a Marjolaine and Cesare Borgia (Assassins Creed 2) cross pairing since they are both manipulative bastards.

picture is not mine.

Modifié par Burritos, 04 septembre 2010 - 07:25 .

[Heimdall]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

So does anyone have a favourite Origin to romance Leliana with.

I don't have many playthroughs (That I finished anyway, the Fade and Deep Roads killed quite a bit of replayability for me)

But I romanced Leli with my main Warden, a male Surana named Arion.  Which is Sindarin for "Noble Son".  Still my favorite:wub:

[flexxdk]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

So does anyone have a favourite Origin to romance Leliana with.

SinceI always play as a Human Noble, I think that this question is a no-brainer for me. 

Even when I play a female Human Noble, I still end up in a romance with Leliana. 

The romance with Alistair never lasts.  Thank the Maker for that!

Modifié par Whacka, 04 septembre 2010 - 09:13 .

[Jacks Smirking Revenge]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

So does anyone have a favourite Origin to romance Leliana with.

I like the female/male mage origin. Her open minded view on the Chanty and magic is refreshing to them, and she seems to be very interested/in awe of magic.

[Yana Montana]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

So does anyone have a favourite Origin to romance Leliana with.

I only tried to romance her with my first and canon FemCousland. And I love these two to bits.
My other character is DudeMage and he is crazy for Morrigan.

Modifié par Yana Montana, 04 septembre 2010 - 04:56 .

[JamieCOTC]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

So does anyone have a favourite Origin to romance Leliana with.

My fav is my main char, female human mage.  I like the idea of former Circle Mage and former cloistered sister being togerher.  Both have fresh ideas on the Circle and the Chantry. 

[Giggles_Manically]

I liked the DC best for a romance.



Its wierd to finally meet someone who dosent think the only choice is violence and skullduggery.



Also she was the first person to understand Bob's fascination with shoes.