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#5051
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I wish Lels romance involved whips.

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Viva la France wrote...

I wish Lels romance involved whips.

In the wondrous world of mods and 3D modelling, EVERYTHING is possible.

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Provided you know what to do... :?

It all sounds so easier than it actually is... :(

Hmmm... If you would create a whip in 3Ds max or something and would implent it into a cutscene (I don't know if the model would have to be in the game itself as a item) that plays when you are "doing it" with Leliana (and create the perfect cutscenes)... Yeah, sounds pretty much possible. But a little complicated, I guess.

Modifié par Whacka, 17 septembre 2010 - 08:22 .


#5053
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Whacka wrote...

Viva la France wrote...

I wish Lels romance involved whips.

In the wondrous world of mods and 3D modelling, EVERYTHING is possible.

...

Provided you know what to do... :?

It all sounds so easier than it actually is... :(

Hmmm... If you would create a whip in 3Ds max or something and would implent it into a cutscene (I don't know if the model would have to be in the game itself as a item) that plays when you are "doing it" with Leliana (and create the perfect cutscenes)... Yeah, sounds pretty much possible. But a little complicated, I guess.


Rofl
I will make it where my Warden is tied up to the bed. Extra Saucey. lol

#5054
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Whacka wrote...

Viva la France wrote...

I wish Lels romance involved whips.

In the wondrous world of mods and 3D modelling, EVERYTHING is possible.

...

Provided you know what to do... :?

It all sounds so easier than it actually is... :(

Hmmm... If you would create a whip in 3Ds max or something and would implent it into a cutscene (I don't know if the model would have to be in the game itself as a item) that plays when you are "doing it" with Leliana (and create the perfect cutscenes)... Yeah, sounds pretty much possible. But a little complicated, I guess.


If strap-on belts and big toys have been modded into the game, I'm sure whips wouldn't be a problem.

And Whacka, it's okay with the last comment. I know I'm going a bit crazy here with all the whip stuff... but I can't help it!

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Oh guys, I know you're kinda drifting to dangerous territory over there ^.But don't even get me started with whips and Leliana in one sentence. haha.

Just. Don't.

Oh and that other pic is nice !

#5056
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3d Modelling? <shudders>

If someone else wants to try it go ahead.



Me personally? Caramel Pudding is about it.

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Zjarcal wrote...

Whacka wrote...

Viva la France wrote...

I wish Lels romance involved whips.

In the wondrous world of mods and 3D modelling, EVERYTHING is possible.

...

Provided you know what to do... :?

It all sounds so easier than it actually is... :(

Hmmm... If you would create a whip in 3Ds max or something and would implent it into a cutscene (I don't know if the model would have to be in the game itself as a item) that plays when you are "doing it" with Leliana (and create the perfect cutscenes)... Yeah, sounds pretty much possible. But a little complicated, I guess.


If strap-on belts and big toys have been modded into the game, I'm sure whips wouldn't be a problem.

And Whacka, it's okay with the last comment. I know I'm going a bit crazy here with all the whip stuff... but I can't help it!

Crazy? Crazy? Leliana is cra --

*sees Leliana glaring with a whip*

Eeeeer.... Ohaider... As I said... Leliana isn't crazy! No she isn't!!... Er-hem... I think I've... gotta go... right now... KTHXBAI! *runs away fast*

@ Giggles_Manically
If there was only a caramel pudding we could give as a gift to Leliana...

Modifié par Whacka, 17 septembre 2010 - 08:35 .


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SnakeHelah wrote...

Oh guys, I know you're kinda drifting to dangerous territory over there ^.But don't even get me started with whips and Leliana in one sentence. haha.
Just. Don't.
Oh and that other pic is nice !


Well, this thread still pales when compared to the Alistair thread in terms of naughtiness and threading "dangerous territories".

In fact, I think it's until I came here that things started getting out of control... I'll try to be good from now on. :innocent:

(Yeah right! :devil:)

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Zjarcal wrote...

SnakeHelah wrote...

Oh guys, I know you're kinda drifting to dangerous territory over there ^.But don't even get me started with whips and Leliana in one sentence. haha.
Just. Don't.
Oh and that other pic is nice !


Well, this thread still pales when compared to the Alistair thread in terms of naughtiness and threading "dangerous territories".

In fact, I think it's until I came here that things started getting out of control... I'll try to be good from now on. :innocent:

(Yeah right! :devil:)

Oh well, As long as it involves whips, And Leliana... I really don't mind. Always nice to have, um, extra pics. ^_^

#5060
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Zjarcal wrote...

SnakeHelah wrote...

Oh guys, I know you're kinda drifting to dangerous territory over there ^.But don't even get me started with whips and Leliana in one sentence. haha.
Just. Don't.
Oh and that other pic is nice !


Well, this thread still pales when compared to the Alistair thread in terms of naughtiness and threading "dangerous territories".

In fact, I think it's until I came here that things started getting out of control... I'll try to be good from now on. :innocent:

(Yeah right! :devil:)

Replace Dr. Banner with you than replace the Incredible Hulk with the Smutty Hulk and Anger with Leliana, than we get you Zjarcal.

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SnakeHelah wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

SnakeHelah wrote...

Oh guys, I know you're kinda drifting to dangerous territory over there ^.But don't even get me started with whips and Leliana in one sentence. haha.
Just. Don't.
Oh and that other pic is nice !


Well, this thread still pales when compared to the Alistair thread in terms of naughtiness and threading "dangerous territories".

In fact, I think it's until I came here that things started getting out of control... I'll try to be good from now on. :innocent:

(Yeah right! :devil:)

Oh well, As long as it involves whips, And Leliana... I really don't mind. Always nice to have, um, extra pics. ^_^

As long as no one in this house finds out what is happening rightahere, I should be fine. ^_^

Modifié par Whacka, 17 septembre 2010 - 08:40 .


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Giggles_Manically wrote...
Replace Dr. Banner with you than replace the Incredible Hulk with the Smutty Hulk and Anger with Leliana, than we get you Zjarcal.


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The Smutty Hulk! Could that even be dealt with? The power of that smut could only be countered with:

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Modifié par Zjarcal, 17 septembre 2010 - 08:55 .


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Zjarcal wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...
Replace Dr. Banner with you than replace the Incredible Hulk with the Smutty Hulk and Anger with Leliana, than we get you Zjarcal.


:o
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The Smutty Hulk! Could that even be dealt with? The power of that smut could only be countered with:


Or we could just feed it caramel pudding.

#5064
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Disturbing lack of Leli on this thread must be fixed!

Since we were talking about the threesome earlier, here's her "I can't let you do this" moment:

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Followed by Oghren's priceless reaction:

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Modifié par Zjarcal, 17 septembre 2010 - 10:50 .


#5065
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@Zjarcal is your PC a mage or a human noble?

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Hehe... Dana is a HN, a mage, and a Dalish!



Don't ask!



I just can't play Origins unless it's with her. I like to imagine in my Dalish playthrough that she has pointy ears.

#5067
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I dont really replay the same PC that much.



All my PCs are very deeply roleplayed, or based off a real/fictional person. I really like seeing how the world is different based off of each new PC that goes into it.



Like my most current Warden who is a bloodmage, but not in the evil sense, more in the vein of the Xmen sense. She was a natural blood mage, and terrified about it, since she is also a Devout Chantry person.

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Actually, the only thing that's the same across playthroughs is her looks. Her personality is different in each "incarnation" and I always end up making different decisions depending on her origin.



It's a weird quirk of mine where I need to see her face in the game, otherwise I'll feel totally disconnected and awkward.



Oh, the other constant in those games is the Leli romance, but I try to give it a different spin in terms of what lead to her falling for Leli each time.

#5069
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I dont know I think its the mix of her being sweet, caring, and having a cute accent that draws many of my PCs to her.



Or something else if you ask Dain:

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I love it when I catch pics that can be read into!

#5070
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Giggles_Manically wrote...

I dont know I think its the mix of her being sweet, caring, and having a cute accent that draws many of my PCs to her. 


lol.  Your dwarf has a good view.

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So speculation, why do you guys think Leliana fell in love with Marjolaine in the first place?

#5072
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Vulnerability and Innocence.



My take is that she had never loved anyone before. Perhaps she hadn't even had any close friends. Marjolaine made her feel special since Leli was a useful asset for her. Leli was young and stupid, the "game" was fun, and this attractive, powerful woman was having a go at her. She couldn't help but fall for her.

#5073
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I think one of Leliana's greatest strengths (and weaknesses) as a character is that when presented with something she instinctually looks for the good and the beauty within it. While we might look at Marjolaine and focus on her capacity for egocentricity and callousness, Leliana focuses on her intelligence, wisdom, beauty, love of music, attentiveness, etc. I imagine she also found it exhilarating to be with someone more experienced and dangerous who could show her the world.



Marjolaine definitely took advantage of her vulnerability and innocence, for sure, but I like to think that Marjolaine loved Leliana too (well as much as possible for someone like her) and actually did think that she was special (cause let's face it, she really is). However, ultimately, Marjolaine lived in a reality where her own survival had to come before everything else, like Morrigan in some ways. Leliana by nature isn't like that, which is a big reason why being a bard is not good for her.

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wickedgoodreed wrote...

Marjolaine definitely took advantage of her vulnerability and innocence, for sure, but I like to think that Marjolaine loved Leliana too (well as much as possible for someone like her) and actually did think that she was special (cause let's face it, she really is).


If we go by the ending of "Leliana's Song", it may indeed be possible that Marjolaine loved Leliana. She does say at one point that it caused her no joy to betray her, and does with a rather sad face.

Whether she's being honest or no, I don't know. I suppose it's possible that Marjolaine at least did care for her in a way.

Still, I'm a bit incapable of seeing anything good in Marjolaine.

What you say about Leli focusing on the positives of Marjolaine (her talents, intelligence, love for music, etc.), that's very true. The woman was indeed remarkable in her own twisted way and Leli allowed this to cloud her judgement of who she was dealing with.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 18 septembre 2010 - 07:01 .


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I think it makes the story and the betrayal much more tragic if one assumes that she did truly care for Leliana. The way Leliana talks about their good times together, and the nostalgia she expresses for that makes me think that there was a real connection between the two of them. After everything that transpired and with the benefit of hindsight, I have a hard time believing she'd still feel that way if the relationship was totally one-sided. EDIT: At least by the end of their time together, Leliana had become a master of the game herself. So when reflecting back on their relationship during the time of Origins, I'd think she'd be able to make a better judgment about it.

Still doesn't change the fact that Marjolaine is deeply flawed, paranoid and obsessive though. She and Howe will always be the characters I love to hate in the game.

Modifié par wickedgoodreed, 18 septembre 2010 - 07:36 .